Bournemouth (A) - 1:30pm, 04/12/16 - Get the Cherries pitted.

[stringvest]

The team have flown to Barcelona it seems.

 

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/739933/Liverpool-Barcelona-Spain-Bournemouth-defeat-sportgalleries

 

 

obviously gone to wave Coutinho off.

[Jairzinho]

obviously gone to wave Coutinho off. get Luis back.

[stringvest]

 

obviously gone to wave Coutinho off. get Luis back.

 

 

 

now wouldn't that be nice.  I do suspect he'd prefer to go to Arsenal though. 

[Jairzinho]

I think if Arsenal had Ozil playing of Sanchez and Suarez even they'd struggle to bottle winning the title.

[Hades]

I thought wijnaldum played well yesterday. I was just about to post that when it went 3-2

Wijnaldum is dreadful. I've watched him playing for Netherlands too and he's piss poor. An average wide-mid/attacking mid that bottles it away from home. Would rather Milner back in there and Moreno back at left full.

[3 Stacks]

Wijnaldum is dreadful. I've watched him playing for Netherlands too and he's piss poor. An average wide-mid/attacking mid that bottles it away from home. Would rather Milner back in there and Moreno back at left full.

 

Agreed. He does nothing. I don't think he's a better midfielder than Joe Allen.

[The Golden Eel]

I get the feeling that Wijnaldum is going to become one of these "emperor's new clothes" type players on here.  Personally, I see a player with good technique and occasionally he does something in game where you can he's got quality (like the touch for Woodburn's goal being the most obvious example), but he doesn't affect games.  Or isn't doing so at the minute.  Regardless of where's been played. 

[beejay]

In fairness I can't recall him making a sub which has turned a game in our favour.  Happy to be corrected if someone else can though. 

 

Can you remember 2 games back when Origi scored the winner against Sunderland after coming on as a sub or maybe one game back when Ben Woodburn scored the clincher against Leeds about 10 mins after coming on?

[Russ Atmosphere]

The interaction between Wijnaldum, Can, Firmino, Origi, maybe Mane too, was non-existent, even before the madness. Firmino looks half the player out on the left. I enjoyed Origi's goal but he kills it worse than Sturridge.

[Guest LFD]

Wijnaldum is dreadful. I've watched him playing for Netherlands too and he's piss poor. An average wide-mid/attacking mid that bottles it away from home. Would rather Milner back in there and Moreno back at left full.

 

Wow.

[Paco]

I disagree. I think wijnaldum is crucial to the way we play. his quick feet and ability to play one touch in tight situations or the way he can slalom past challenges in the crowded middle of the field with the ball at his feet. he's great on the ball.

 

I didn't think he was a good signing but I've changed my mind. I like him. of course a few more goals and assists wouldn't hurt but I think we're a better team when he's in there.

 

reading about the trip to Barcelona. they were all on the plane before the game was over.

[Arl arse]

Sorry guys. I just bought a team signed jersey off ebay... on the off chance we get no.19 this year.

I take full responsibility for mockering the fuck out of this result.

I'm starting a thread demanding you get sold in Jan.

[kemskem]

Wijnaldum is dreadful. I've watched him playing for Netherlands too and he's piss poor. An average wide-mid/attacking mid that bottles it away from home. Would rather Milner back in there and Moreno back at left full.

I'd have Joe Cole back in before Moreno.

[LFC 6 Times]

Jesus Christ watching this back on MNF, Origi not winning that fucking header at the edge of our box against that midget Wilshere is fucking disgraceful.

[3 Stacks]

I disagree. I think wijnaldum is crucial to the way we play. his quick feet and ability to play one touch in tight situations or the way he can slalom past challenges in the crowded middle of the field with the ball at his feet. he's great on the ball.

 

I didn't think he was a good signing but I've changed my mind. I like him. of course a few more goals and assists wouldn't hurt but I think we're a better team when he's in there.

 

reading about the trip to Barcelona. they were all on the plane before the game was over.

 

He doesn't actually do anything, though. He doesn't put his foot on the ball and slow the game down, he doesn't score goals or even get into many goal-scoring opportunities, he doesn't win the ball back consistently (he only has 16 tackles this season. 16!).

 

Right now he's a complete waste of a starting 11 spot. You could play Sturridge in the middle if all you're looking for are cute touches and quick feet. He needs to do more.

[Dave D]

Can you remember 2 games back when Origi scored the winner against Sunderland after coming on as a sub or maybe one game back when Ben Woodburn scored the clincher against Leeds about 10 mins after coming on?

 

Just to clarify, your avatar is Meridith Kercher?

 

As in the murder victim, Meridith Kercher?

[El Rojo]

I thought wijnaldum played well yesterday. I was just about to post that when it went 3-2

He played pretty well. Nothing spectacular. Not much to choose from between our central midfielders. I wouldn't be that upset to see himself or Can on the bench next time.

 

Henderson gets a lot of grief on here and elsewhere because he's not Steven Gerrard. I think he's been impressive this season, yesterday's horror show aside.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

He played pretty well. Nothing spectacular. Not much to choose from between our central midfielders. I wouldn't be that upset to see himself or Can on the bench next time.

 

Henderson gets a lot of grief on here and elsewhere because he's not Steven Gerrard. I think he's been impressive this season, yesterday's horror show aside.

 

I thought Henderson was one of our better players in the first half, the second half was an abortion by all just after mane went off. 

[an tha]

24 hrs later and this defeat still stings like fuck

[Paco]

He doesn't actually do anything, though. He doesn't put his foot on the ball and slow the game down, he doesn't score goals or even get into many goal-scoring opportunities, he doesn't win the ball back consistently (he only has 16 tackles this season. 16!).

 

Right now he's a complete waste of a starting 11 spot. You could play Sturridge in the middle if all you're looking for are cute touches and quick feet. He needs to do more.

Klopp and Brendan before him don't want their 3 midfielders to be like mascherano/Sissoko (wrecker), Alonso (passer) and Gerrard (hole). They want them to be a bit of everything. it used to be 2 back and 1 further forward but now it's 1 back and 2 ahead of them. whereas it was about mascherano to Alonso to Gerrard to torres and goal now it's more about mesmerising teams with intricate passing moves and it's all built around the high press. while our current midfield can't do what the 2009 one could do I'm not sure they could do what Henderson wijnaldum can/Lallana do either.

[stringvest]

24 hrs later and this defeat still stings like fuck

 

 

that's cystitis mate.  Go and get that checked out.

[an tha]

that's cystitis mate. Go and get that checked out.

who does he play for?

[Stickman]

who does he play for?

I've seen him play trust me he's piss poor

[an tha]

I've seen him play trust me he's piss poor

an tha crosses to the far post and stickman nods it in.

[A Red]

Its taken me up to now to want to read about the game, i've been that pissed off.

 

I'm ok now, its our second loss of the season and we were by far the better team. If you were watching both teams for the first time and had to pick which one would do better long term it would be us. Far better to lose like that than to create nothing and be played off the park. 

 

I would be critical of Karius and I want him replaced in January, dont know who but anyone that is experienced and would be even marginally better, we havent the time to bed in a rookie keeper. I would even go for Joe Hart, yep cant dive to his left but still better. I've seen criticism of Milner and talk of buying a left back, really? Who the fuck are we going to get better than him? I like the idea of a Matip Van Dijk partnership too. Apart from that, leave alone.

 

We've got a good team and the best manager and I trust him to get it right.