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  1. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Like has been said the US police is way different and militarised (Obama improved that situation in 2015, Trump reversed what Obama had done in 2017), it doesn't compare at all over here and the Tories have already defunded the police. BLM might be better focusing on police reform as well as campaigning for increased funding for social services that have been gutted. Ideally I'd prefer for the police to be replaced with something that works better in the same way that I'd prefer the entire structure of government to be replaced with something that works better, but I'm not under the illusion that it's going to happen in a right-wing UK in 2020. That type of change could require the type of difference in outlook we see between younger and older voters, where if you just had younger voters deciding things almost the entire country would've replaced the Tories with a Labour gov in a complete landslide. So maybe something that could be taken more seriously in the future. It'll be interesting to see how Minneapolis goes about replacing their police though because if it works well enough it could provide a template for others to follow and prove that it's possible to do things differently.
  2. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I didn't think you had and was just messing, that's my fault for my usually shit attempts at humour on the internet.
  3. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Well if she starts ranting to me about how good Starmer is next time I see her I'll know where that's come from and she'll no longer be my mam.
  4. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Paddlers? It's peddlers. That's a bloody disgrace that is Bruce, and you've even finished with a comma to top it off.
  5. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Agreed that he did well to win when it looked hard for that to happen, I don't see him as being on some type of probation though because he seems to have enough support to do what he wants. At the same time though it looks like he's also doing a good job of alienating a lot of those that supported Corbyn and/or RLB, which can't be good considering the amount of support they had and the idea being that he was going to unite both sides of the party. And it could be that most/all in here have mentioned some faults of Starmer over the course of the thread too, maybe with more here being sick of what's going on and less likely to be bothered about posting on the subject it makes it seem more one-sided. It does seem like any criticism of him isn't really taken seriously at times but maybe that doesn't matter so much at the moment either. If things carry on looking so divided though over the course of the next fews years it could turn into a more serious problem if a lot of people are leaving the party and/or deciding not to vote Labour because of it.
  6. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    ... I'm sure the Canary having a go really scared him and caused a ton of problems, as opposed to the amount of crap Corbyn got from the moment it looked like he was going to win the leadership and the establishment started going after him. You couldn't even read the Guardian without regular hit pieces never mind the rest of them. So it doesn't compare really. And working class lawyer knee-deep in social justice cases as opposed to one selling off the NHS, well yeah you could put it like that. Or you could say Starmer was a working class lawyer who was knee-deep in social justice cases, got a knighthood, joined the Trilateral Commission, was part of the coup against Corbyn, campaigned for us the remain in the EU which was a big cause of the election result that was so bad, signed on to all of the BoD's fucking stupid demands, and then sacked his main leadership campaign rival from the cabinet. And yeah I know RLB signed up to the BoD stuff as well, I didn't agree with that either. We're talking about how Corbyn was the anointed one, but to some Starmer can't have a bad word said against him and any criticism from anywhere at all is just dismissed while thousands of left wing voters leave the party. It'd be good if we could admit that he does have some faults at least, because if not those going on about how Corbyn had a cult will just be doing the exact same thing for the current leader instead.
  7. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Good video by Jonathan Pie. At the end of the day RLB did sign up to all of the BoD's demands too, so in some sense she's walked right into the trap that she herself signed up to, and that many of us warned about. The whole situation is a total fucking joke really.
  8. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I don't think it's controversial either and I think there might be more to what was going on with RLB than a simple disgreement over a tweet, but I don't think we'll ever know the full story on that either so I suppose it's kind of pointless us trying to understand it properly. I saw that Freedland article earlier too, there's no way I'm reading it but noticed this and was glad I didn't : Yeah the mistake Peake made was worse than saying Rothschilds are causing the snow. Of course if it was that that RLB had linked instead he'd soon have a different view.
  9. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I think RLB should sack Labour off anyway and start a new party, see if she can get a few of her fellow commies to join her. Last year we had The Independent Group, this year we should have The Independent Linkers. *ba-dum tish* Yeah I'll get my coat.
  10. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I have no idea what RLB's intention was so I can't help with that. As for the other bit, I know a load of people don't care, any of us on here know that clearly I think. When I see in response to the word humanity stuff about moral superiority and ignoring/demonising people though I'm not and never will be agreeing with that, and I doubt many others would either. If we're fine with people not giving a fuck, maybe they should be fine with some of us being the opposite. I don't see why that's any type of controversial idea either. And to be clear I'm not saying that the people Gooch is referring to don't exist, I'm not defending them either. Jumping to conclusions after simply seeing the word humanity seems way over the top though.
  11. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I think both methods can work but I'm not going to pretend I have any idea of how things will work out, I honestly don't have a clue and think that after the last election our main issue is any form of democracy we have being seriously broken. Maybe Starmer can try and make that situation better if he can work within the system to whatever extent or someone else can, we're definitely in need of things changing though looking at the current shit going on.
  12. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Yeah so let's just totally isolate ourselves, focus on day to day stuff within our country and fuck everyone else. Nobody should think any different because it's all about what your average voter thinks and we can become a big zombie herd that all thinks the same things. Oh and gaslight anyone who dares to care about others elsewhere in the world by going on about moral superiority. Nope, fuck all that. Maybe it's fine for you and many others but some of us don't see it that way and it doesn't have to mean that we spend our time feeling morally superior about it either or feel any need to demonise others. And we don't have to be gaslighted on the subject just for focusing on it to whatever degree either, that just seems like real thought police territory and surely isn't helping anything.
  13. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    Purrrfectly.
  14. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    It could help get the Tories out if Starmer can deal with media well enough so I'm not going to be against the idea of that. I think Corbyn was just unacceptable to many of them though due to what he wanted and the change he was hoping for so he never really had a chance with them from the off. I sometimes wondered what it could've been like if he'd just attacked them and called out so much of their bullshit in a similar way to how Trump has done, and maybe Galloway would. Whether or not that'd work over here though and from the left instead of the right I have no idea. I suppose once you get to that stage though any chance of balance or fairness from some outlets after that point is pretty much gone for good so it clearly comes with risks.
  15. Red Phoenix

    Keir Starmer

    I'm sure Starmer will be able to hack being called a right wing Blairite. After all it's not as if the media are going to join in and run a years long campaign on that issue like they did with Corbyn and antisemitism, to the point that it loses him tons of votes when the next election comes around. A lot of them would probably be fine with a right wing Blairite in charge, better than Corbyn after all. It got that stupid last year that I remember a journo on LBC talking about how Corbyn wanted to re-open Auschwitz. When it gets to that level you know things have gone fucking mental. So when you talk about the worst election result in recent memory it's clearly not all down to Corbyn not being good enough, even though he did have several faults and make mistakes. For some reason he sure managed to drive a load of clowns half insane though.
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