AngryofTuebrook

If global warming really is a myth or a hoax, somebody needs to tell the planet. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190417084535.htm

97% of climate studies agree on the fact of man-made global warming. The other 3% have been shown to be bollocks. https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scientific-papers-that-deny-climate-change-are-all-flawed/ Still, I've not watched RedShift's "debunking" documentary yet. I'm sure it will be compelling.

Mo fo don't know Poe.

I love all this direct action.

... and that's before we've left.

These are the days of miracle and wonder. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47969367

I never said that Osborne's threat was a logical flaw; I said that your arguments - specifically, your choice of things that are categorically different from lies as examples of lies - were logically flawed. The point here is that both you and Boss are struggling to come up with clear examples of lies from the Remain campaign - and that's before we try to estimate how influential any lies were in persuading almost half the turnout to vote Remain. The Leave campaign was dripping with lies, everywhere you looked. And those lies influenced how people voted. The levels of dishonesty were not remotely comparable.

No. If you want to understand what bullshit is, I'd recommend Harry Frankfurt's "On Bullshit". Forecasts are something completely different.

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Most of those things were forecasts that didn't (fully) materialise - although some have partly come true, even though we haven't left yet. Others may yet come true, depending on how and when we leave the EU. Others are basically true: for example, the UK could have chosen to be tougher on EU jobseekers and the UK could have exercised its influence within the EU more effectively. It's really nothing to compare to the tsunami of bullshit that Leave campaigners surfed on.

You'll never catch me defending anything Osborne has ever said or done, but there's a logical flaw in the examples of "lies" that you've chosen. The Leave campaigns made claims that they knew were false: that the EU made a large proportion of UK law; that the UK sent £350m a week to the EU; that Turkey's accession was imminent; that the UK was at "Breaking Point" with brown people; etc. These were all lies. What you've cited from the Remain side is some forecasts which didn't materialise. You might argue that those forecasts were based on false premises (as some of them - from both sides - may well have been). But they are not lies, per se. Here's an example. Carole Kirkwood says it will probably rain tomorrow, but it turns out to be sunny. She isn't lying. Conversely, if I look out of the window on a sunny day and tell you it's raining, that would be a lie. And that is what the Leave campaigns did relentlessly.

Indeed. This is who and what Farage is.

Some good news to get them excited.

In case any doubt remained about his cunt status.

I turn over.