AngryofTuebrook

I just got pissed off because I thought Gnasher might have stumbled upon some useful new information about modern slavery. Turns out he was just bullshitting. Again.

Not of The Times. The NCA report was quite widely covered.

Far from dismissing the reports, I read and understood them: none of them made an anti-EU case. Now grow the fuck up. Slavery and exploitation are far too serious to be lied about and misrepresented for the purpose of petty point scoring on a fucking forum.

That's really sad, that. Mythbusters was boss and Grant's nerdy persona complemented Tori's meatheaded jockishness perfectly (both in the wonderful shadow of Kari, of course).

It'd be more honourable than having a place named after the slaver John Bramley-Moore. They're lucky they don't actually own the land.

In fairness, the mag always carried the header "Not suitable for children or Evertonians". It's the incorrect "ran" that bothers me here.

Comet visible to the naked eye. https://www.thecanary.co/discovery/news-discovery/2020/07/14/stargazers-urged-to-take-in-comet-that-will-not-return-for-68-centuries/?fbclid=IwAR3fe7vs44B24Fri5Nd1NHqkq2zj0BxZZ-vbPYB_mMNTFgiNG_3HhjvEGow Stargazers have been urged to marvel at a newly discovered comet which is visible to the naked eye this month as it will not be coming back for another 6,800 years. The mountain-sized Neowise comet made its closest approach to the sun on 3 July and is now shining brightly in the night skies. Dr Robert Massey, from the Royal Astronomical Society, said Neowise was last in the inner Solar System 4,500 years ago and it was not expected to return for another 6,800 years. He said: “I would encourage everyone to take a look if they can, if they have clear skies, and get away from light pollution if they can.” Neowise, named after the telescope used to first spot it, should be visible for the next few weeks in the northern skies, near the bright star Capella. Dr Massey recommended using binoculars to see more detail of the comet’s tail.

When your arguments disappear up your own arse, you resort to hurling this sort of nonsense, like an angry chimp flinging shit. It's not a great look.

I've read the main chunks. It's not about the EU. As far as I could find, only those two Europhobic right-wing rags mentioned the EU. The thing is, I've read plenty of articles and reports, watched documentaries and attended seminar sessions on the problem of modern slavery throughout the world. The consensus is always that where migrant workers have the right to live and work in the host country, they are better protected from slavery; where the government of the host country deems them illegal, they are most at risk. It follows logically that EU citizens, having the right to live and work in any EU Member State, are better protected from slavery. Brexit removes those protections and makes many thousands more immigrant workers vulnerable to exploitation. In the absence of context or even a full quote, I can only guess that the NCA bloke was saying that the EU's open borders make it harder to disrupt the movement of migrant workers. Wouldn't try to disagree with that. But the emphasis on disrupting the movement of workers focuses on them, the exploited, as the problem and not the bastards who exploit them. (It's a viewpoint consistent with the politics of the Times and the Express. ) As I've said a million times, the effective and equitable way to tackle the problems of slavery and exploitation is to give workers - even migrant workers - more rights. Leaving the EU does the opposite.

I am genuinely interested in reading it. I've seen a few other papers covering the same report from the NCA, but only the Times and the Express even mention the EU. The Express, obviously, is no use, because it's a fact-free rage-rag for the hard-of-thinking. I'm hoping that "the paper of record" has given a better account of what the NCA bloke actually said.

And please post that Times article, to help to inform the debate.

For the millionth time - stop arguing against stuff that nobody here is arguing for and start answering direct questions. The Covid-19 spike in Herefordshire was caused by shitty working conditions endured by seasonal farm workers. How does your proposal to weaken workers' rights even further improve this situation?

This is all I ask. Just get these beat, Reds.

Dave, you need to have a word with Alan about his graffiti in the bogs.