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Yeah, there's a lot of parallels. I seem to remember his teams were dominating matches and struggling to score too. But I think the big difference is (at least from this distance) it felt they were all glad when he called it a day, everyone was ready for a change and it was amicable as he agreed to go before the season was out and they gave him a great send off (and I think a good finish to the season). If what's happening at the club now forces klopp to want to leave, there'll be fucking riots as no matter how bad it gets, I can't imagine very many Liverpool fans will be looking at klopp for the reason it's gone wrong.

Obviously his whole language and attitude is different, we haven't scored a league goal for a month. I don't argue he might be pissed off. I just reckon he's probably been pissed off before, but the questions have been different, the context different and the overall vibe different. He was pretty clear in the interview to laugh and ask why anyone is surprised because this is how it's always been. Ultimately the only people who know are klopp, Edwards and the board and owners. For me it feels no real different to before, it's just results are shit and our luck with injuries has highlighted the vulnerabilities in the squad. I've read countless times on this forum the fear many had around a long term injury to vvd, alisson, robbo, Trent, mane or salah. Well now we've got one. Do people think klopp didn't always realise this was a possibility? Of course and he'd have liked more squad depth. But he also knew from day 1 the rules and decided to work with them. That's how I see it. It's pretty much what he said yesterday.

So first of all he was asked directly. And let's be honest, there's only so far he can go credibly and not look daft. Of course he wants a centre back, why wouldn't he? He hasn't got any. But I bet you he wanted a backup left back last season too. It's just nobody is too arsed about asking that question and they weren't interested in asking it after the summer window shut and we were going into the season with vvd and 2 crisp bags. I feel in an ideal world klopp would have wanted a centre back too then. But he gets on and makes do, he's done it all his career. And he did call them out in the summer, he said he wanted players but the pandemic was making it difficult - then they managed to sell off enough to allow us to bring 3 in. The summer before he said he'd like to go into the market but we had bills to pay as we'd given a bunch of new contracts and he was glad we had been able to do that. The message has been around in some form or another. But I just think it feels more real to many people listening when we have had loads of games where we can't field a centr back. It's also been a time when we've lost some form, if we were winning I don't think anyone would be arsed. I also feel pretty certain he'd have one had we sold origi or raised some funds from gruijic and Wilson in the summer. Bottom line is our owners don't like transfer fees, but they accept them if they're self funded from sales.

Behind a pay wall for me that.

I'm not wrong to think he was a republican governor wasn't he? Would he be disbarred from running for president because he wasn't born in America?

I've never much heard anything from Schwarzenegger until the last month or so. But I'm starting to warm to him. And I read that as if he was talking to the kids in kindergarten cop.

That only surprises me to an extent as some of the incoming fees (not Hazard) over the years have been inexplicably eye watering. Although they have been very good at the people trafficking thing they do.

Chelsea currently. Maybe Everton, I don't really understand what is happening there. It used to be just about everyone. But since the league has been full of people who are here as an investment rather than an ego trip, it's becoming less and less about the sport. I don't really see the premier league as much beyond a reality TV show any more, there for the financial benefit of the people who own the show. What was the old saying "nobody owns a football club to make money". That was maybe the 90s when that was last true and slowly but surely we've morphed from a sport into an entertainment industry.

City owners are here for financial reward. Just a different financial reward as fsg. They've spent, they've had their run in with uefa on ffp and got away with it on a technicality. They won't get away with it on a technicality again.

Well I think there might be some wage depression because of covid. All over Europe people have got less, so I would imagine there's a lot of lads sitting on benches who maybe can't get a bigger (or as good) salary as they are getting now, so agents are not able to generate the churn they normally can.

Is this not compatible in net spend to last year? (Note the negative is back to front to how I'd interpt it) Only 3 clubs spent over 10m Man united - with a signing they failed to complete in the summer Spurs, who'd just hired mourinho and had their CL money And sheff United - who i think are the only outlier, but there is covid which has to hamper things to some extent and the window isn't closed yet. https://amp-sportsmole-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/transfer-guides/feature/premier-league-transfer-ins-and-outs-january-2020_382539.html?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16114146807703&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportsmole.co.uk%2Ffootball%2Ftransfer-guides%2Ffeature%2Fpremier-league-transfer-ins-and-outs-january-2020_382539.html Arsenal net transfer balance: -£4.5m Aston Villa net transfer balance: -£6.75m Bournemouth net transfer balance: -£0 Brighton net transfer balance: -£9.1m Burnley net transfer balance: -£4.73m Chelsea net transfer balance: £5.31m Crystal Palace net transfer balance: -£270,000 Everton net transfer balance: -£1m Leicester City net transfer balance: -£0 Liverpool net transfer balance: -£7.65m Man City net transfer balance: -£0 Man Utd net transfer balance: -£48.15m Newcastle net transfer balance: -£4.05m Norwich City net transfer balance: -£4.01m Sheffield United net transfer balance: -£19.17m Southampton net transfer balance: £0 Tottenham Hotspur net transfer balance: -£37.1m Watford net transfer balance: -£9m West Ham net transfer balance: -£27.45m Wolverhampton Wanderers net transfer balance: -£5.31m Share thi

Why do you think TV companies will go under? Edit and if they do, they'll just launch a Global PL TV station and stream it though Amazon or whatever.

I do love blues. This was the latest mobile phone when they last won a trophy. And they've had a many manager since their last derby win as we had from our formation in 1892 till 1974.

What do you mean? Aside from the spent in the summer and are going to piss the league anyway? They don't need anyone.

I don't see any need for any of that. It's all part of the same plan they've been doing for the last 10 years. There's nothing new here aside from the fact we've been hit with 2 long term injuries to players in the same position - which just happens to be a position this summer we decided to gamble with in order to stop gambling at left back. We've been running the squad on a series of gambles for years. We even went into a season with milner as our left back FFS. If people were happy with what's gone in the last 10 years, you should be happy now. It's the same strategy. No different to when Henry was a trader. You make a gamble 10 times and if it pays off 7, you'll be profitable. This is just one of the times the gamble went the wrong way. I think I am one of the most vocal people against the owners on here. We are not in the same jeopardy as we were under H&G, it's just we invest at about the same levels as we did in the early 2000s when houllier was the manager and revenes were about 30% of what they are now. I've been saying for as long as anyone was willing to listen, we have the same operating model as arsenal. It's ace when you have a good manager and it's going right. It's pretty shit when it's not. Our fans broadly seem pretty happy with that or were till this month. There was no need to do H&G style demos last month, I'm pretty sure there's not now. However, all the social media types should rightly be calling them out. And if this is the 1st time it's occured to you that klopp has been doing this with one hand tied behind his back, well good you've seen the light, bitch and moan to fsg on social media as that's one of the few things they're afraid of. But it won't be a fight anyone will win now, because they'll use their lackies in the press to push the story we're just spoilt bastards at a time when the world is struggling with covid. Watch this next week, there'll be loads of stories about how hard the pandemic has hit us. It's as predictable as an Everton BMD story after a Liverpool win, Everton lose weekend.