DaveT

The decade when we were champions half a dozen times and won the Euro Cup twice?

Just about to comment on that! I'm 63 and I have no idea when that might have been.

Would be interesting to see how Messi would have coped with the kind of thuggish tackles Pele had to endure in the 66 World Cup. They probably would have broken him forever. Pele, on the other hand, came back to lead what was probably the best team I've ever seen and win the 70 World Cup.

I guess they slept through Arsenal,3-1 and Norwich 4-1. Muppets. Burnely 3-0. And whilst we're not keeping clean sheets, it should also be pointed out that no-one has scored more than once against us in the league. Atkinson. Nobody has had such a blatant agenda agaionst us since Webb, yet no-one in the media notices it?!

He should have had a red on Sunday actually - his hissy fit of dissent in the first half, an arm in Mane's face in the 2nd, clattering Virgil towards the end, and being an all round pathetic twat for 90 minutes.

Lots of young talent........ which they've acquired over the years by breaking all the regulations concerning recruitment and registration of young players....and which is the reason for the current transfer ban.

And they've hardly played anyone yet - toughest games have been against us and United away, both lost, and Leicester home, draw. They're at City after the break, that'll be interesting..... immediately after we play Palace. Palace are rank at the moment, hardly put a glove on either Chelsea or Leicester, but we're everybody else's cup final these days, so we can expect an extra level of intensity and commitment (not to mention Hodgson's motivation for a result).

Complete mis-match physically. Why do our junior teams seem constantly short of players at the moment? U23s haven’t been able to field a forward for the last couple of games.

Bravo nailed on to have a worldie, just like Gazzaniga did a couple of weeks back after Loris got injured. (Didn't stop us in the end though).

Agree totally with all of this. Contrast our lads (& Marriner) allowing Arsenal to take that quick free kick last Wednesday versus Spurs' antics the previous Sunday (standing over the ball repeatedly until Taylor, at about the 4th time of asking finally booked someone). Of course it's just coincidence that the refs in our last 4 domestic games have been - Moss, Marriner, Taylor and Atkinson, 4 of our least favourite refs. But it doesn't help how we the same few wankers time and again. And just because I'm anal about these things, I looked at Atkinson's recent involvement and noticed that he refereed us 5 times out of the last 15 PL games last season (!), although from what I recall, it was only the first of those (Leicester) where he screwed us over. Was it Jeff Winter that said that he was effectively banned from officiating at OT for years after incurring Ferguson's wrath one time? We need some of that power & influence.

3 minutes deliberating....... and still getting it wrong

Evertonians not as enamoured of Atkinson as they were yesterday.

Anyone else think the praise for Ozil in the media is way over the top? He's a World Cup winner, their highest paid player and he had a decent game against a scratch side, including 5 lads aged 20 or under and a defence who had barely met each other before Wednesday...and a no. 6 who's only ever played their in one other competitive game (against MK Dons!). You'd think it was the 2nd coming from some of the media analysis. I was resigned to losing this when I saw the line-ups but pleased for the lads getting a game. Their attitude was great despite making plenty of mistakes.Brewster didn't stand out so much, but his commitment and desire were fantastic - a couple of tough tackles close together in the 2nd half on the MS side really got the crowd up. The sight of the young lads rushing off the subs bench to mob Neco W after the equaliser was brilliant, too. Got fed up listening to the 5Live team creaming themselves over Rashford's goal and switched to TalkShite - where an Arsenal fan was having a rant - 'Champions of Europe? They let in 5 at home! Klopp should have a better squad than to let 5 in at home'. The TS guys were almost speechless at the stupidity.

Maybe we should poach Tottenham's falling-down coach to make our 'embellishments' look more authentic. (Still wouldn't get us a decision at OT,mind).

Yeah, a bit like late in the 2nd half when Mane and McGuire went for a ball in their box, Sadio made a tiny bit of contact, Slabhead goes down like a sack of spuds....and gets the free-kick. If anything, there's less contact than that on Origi. Consistency. Thresholds - what's 'minimal', what's 'substantial'. If you're going to apply the 'minimal contact' thing, it has to be applied consistently, otherwise you're leaving yourself open to legitimate accusations of bias, which is exactly what Atkinson did yesterday. Really can't understand anyone suggesting Origi wasn't fouled, when he's clearly kicked - you can even see his calf muscle rippling with the impact.