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Therein lies the double edged sword. The problem with these articles is that whilst they're factually correct in certain circumstances they drive up a stress in the general population and stress in and of itself negatively affects your immune system and its capability of fighting off the stressor

To speak to the point he makes, New Orleans Fire Department (again I'm not currently a firefighter, and I live in California rather than Louisiana) have decided to stop putting their exposed members in quarantine because they just don't have the resources. I can't imagine NOEMS is any better at this point. That's a big issue, healthcare workers are going to at the least be hit by attrition and there's only enough people with the capability to go around.

Are they stockpiling the toliet paper there too or is it just the food. First 2 weeks here was the TP, Paper Towels, Paper plates, etc. Now it's as you say, shelves emptied daily and restocked and emptied again.

Yea I've had to explain to him as well that if he ends up hospitalized they won't allow anyone in. They're already doing with his mom and he can't belive they don't make an exception because she's 100 but that's exactly why there is no exception. It's a shitshow really the people most at risk are trying to skirt it, the people in the middle are obeying albeit begrudgingly, and the college kids here are having parties like nothings changed.

My father is 79 (yes I was born when he was 50) but spry as fuck and absolutely pissed they shut his work down where he bartends. I've explained to him that it's for his own interest, it took the full order for him to stay inside, and he's absolutely loathing every second of it. He only just quit the biffs 2 years ago. He's been a lifelong boozer, although no liver issues as far as we know. The main issue is his mother is 100. She's currently hospitaliized unrelated to COVID-19 but just that shes in there wants him to go see her, yet he can't, for both of their sakes.

I think Sadio is the most saleable of the front 3 because it's perceived that Salah has been off. I wouldn't sell either of them, I'd just add to the squad if possible.

I agree with that whole heartily. From my experience as a Californian however, it's the older people that tend to ignore the lockdown. Most of us around my age (I'm 30) are doing our best. Sure I've met up with a friend or two for a workout or a bevy or both, but we're pretty vigilant about this. Our parents are the ones running about town pissed off that they've got at least 30 days of their endgame stuck with nothing to do.

It's not the practice, it's the reporting the situation. Eat whatever you want, as has been mentioned, sometimes that's the only thing someone can afford to eat. Plenty of offal is good for you for example. I can't comment on Pangolin or Bat as I've never researched the nutritional content of them but I suspect they've been eating those animals in that area for years. I'm not even sure I really believe that was what caused this. That's not the issue though, the issue is once it's been documented it needs to be reported truthfully. Rather than trying to make a certain regime look good. Sometimes it's a minor issue as you reported. I've drank some water in Mexico that was the best laxative I ever had, but I've also drank water in Mexico and was fine. Largely in those situations it's because the contents were foreign to your body rather than them being genuinely unhealthful. You ingest a small dose, you have as relatively minor problem, and your body can be accepting of that the next time.

I agree with this honestly. It's possible, albeit unlikely in my very slightly informed opinion, that this all resolves itself in a few months. The other issue though is that even the most docile of people get cabin fever. The lockdowns might well be what we need, even if I tend to disagree with them on principles of a free nation. I've been abiding as much as possible. I don't make any unnecessary trips anywhere. I can deal with it. People as a whole get restless though, and so I don't think this situation is sustainable beyond the limits that have been proposed. Maybe the governments can move the goalposts once or twice, maybe even three times. If we're all still locked in by next fall I suspect we'll have just as much to worry about from our fellow citizens, regardless of what country you live in at the time, as we do from any virus.

I don't know enough to pass judgement on the UK Government but I'm certain sure not the biggest fan of my own American government. They're largely good at taking peoples money, and spending it on killing people in far off foreign lands. I don't worship the ground the president walks on simply because he holds the title, and I would venture to say that there hasn't really been a president worth a shit in my lifetime. That doesn't change the facts that there were reports of a "mystery virus" in China as early as October. The Chinese government eventually downplayed those reports saying there was no instances of human to human transmission of said virus. I believe that happened in early January but it could've been in December, I don't have the records on hand, but I do know that it happened. They didn't lock down Wuhan until late January when the situation became undeniably bad and enough had leaked out that action was effectively forced upon them. Having said that, I don't really understand your point of contention here. The Chinese government have been cunts for quite a while on plenty of issues, but that doesn't mean the US nor the UK government haven't also been cunts for quite a while on plenty of issues. The difference at hand is that the Chinese likely knew more about this particular and at one time potential worldwide issue (as it's worldwide now so the potential has been fulfilled) than they let on, and instead of reporting it truthfully attempted to cover it up. The alternative to that is that they were simply incompetent.

He's a bit busy at the moment

I don't think there's any way the Olympics go ahead. I've been telling all my friends here in California, this is the new normal for quite a while. Might as well get used to it, they might eventually relieve the "safer at home" order but even so going to the bar, sitting in restaurants for dinner, hooking up with random cunts on tinder et al, that's all over for now unless you find someone willing to take the risk with you.

I'm sorry but criticizing the Chinese government is not the same as being xenophobic or racist. It's quite clear now they covered this up as much as they possibly could instead of admitted it was spiraling and either asking for help or giving the rest of the world and the rest of their own nation the ability to plan ahead. All of these worldwide measures would've been far more effective had they happened a month or so earlier. Instead of it being about containment it's now an exercise in mitigation. I do understand the logic, as there are plenty of cunts out there who will blame anyone who slightly resembles a chinese person for this disease. I hate to break it to you, but those people would've been there anyway. Instead now the majority of the world is on lockdown rather than it being able to be contained in one part of the world and perhaps getting multiple nations on board to solve the problem there instead of everywhere having to worry about their own skin. I don't give a fuck what the Chinese eat or what their open air markets have in stock, but when a problem of this potential magnitude is discovered and the government effectively punishes the people who speak out about it there's a problem. I wasn't alive when Chernobyl happened, and I'm sure others blamed the Russian people as much as they blamed the government they lived under. That would be wrong, but it's equally wrong to not point out that the government was the problem in both instances. Chernobyl effectively shitcanned an actual viable alternative to oil as far as energy goes all because the Soviet Union was afraid of being wrong and looking weak.

I live in Long Beach, CA its about 30 minutes south/slightly south west of Los Angeles. As of yesterday Long Beach itself only had four confirmed cases, and they're all accounted for in a hospital. LA County I believe has 19 total cases and then Orange County is also in the teens and Riverside has around 9 or 10 I believe. Overall it seems to be that Washington State has been hit the hardest and some of the larger cities in Northern California started with the closing events and banning of large crowds a few days before everyone else did. Whilst the virus itself is concern I think the nature of people is what's really shocking everyone around here (though I'm not really sure why but then I guess I'm a bit cynical) with the toliet paper shortage and people buying up all the boxed and dry foods. Bottled water is sold out at most places. Even the food that needs to be refrigerated is getting bought up now. Today the school districts for LA and Long Beach both closed for the next month which leaves some parents in the lurch obviously and not everyone is entirely clear on their own job situations either. Most of my friends I know with office type jobs are either working from home now or at least working from home part time. The retail stores, restaurants, gyms, and bars are all still open and I don't expect that will change unless we get a forced lockdown here.

Know what you mean. Being in America I really only get the "footy bantz" on the internet but some of these people are absolute cunts. I get the worry about the parents too, My dad is 79 and a bartender (still expected to turn up to work tomorrow also. He's in good health for his age and has been off the biffs for two years now but this shit is certainly nothing he needs to deal with. My mother is 62 and has got a should surgery coming up. Lung wise she's fine according to her pre-surgery screenings but she's also a chainsmoker and has been for ages. Then my grandmother is 100. Now again for her age she's in good health as hell, amazing even, but just the fact that this thing is out there is a fucking worry when it comes to her.