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Everton 2 Liverpool 0 (Apr 25 2024)

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That’s that then. Season over, Klopp’s going out with a whimper and a campaign that promised so much is ending in massive disappointment and anger. Ok, we’ve got a trophy under our belts but is that League Cup really offering any consolation right now? Absolutely nothing is consoling me, I’m just fucking devastated about all this. It’s not the missing out (I think most of were expecting to come up just short), it’s the way we’re missing out. 

 

I need to strike the right balance here between how I’m feeling and what I know to be completely knee jerk over the top statements. How I feel right now is not what I’ll be feeling when I’ve calmed down. At least I don’t think it will. Maybe I’ll still be feeling this way, who knows. I do know that I said a few weeks back that if these players didn’t go and win at Old Trafford I’d struggle to look at them in the same way. I also said if they allow Klopp to go out with a whimper I’d struggle to forgive them and it would take some getting over. So this isn’t a reaction to losing a derby, it’s something that’s been in my head for several weeks.

 

And that’s exactly how I’m feeling right now, so maybe it won’t pass, I don’t know. All I know is that I don’t want to even look at this team right now. The sense of disappointment in them is something I’m not sure I’ve experienced this strongly before. They were on the brink of doing something really special and they’ve thrown it away. Ok, on the brink is overstating it, but they had put themselves in a position where it was attainable, and instead of rising to the challenge they’ve completely buckled under the pressure and what we’re seeing now is a collective mess. 

 

They ALL have blood on their hands and it’s pointless looking for scapegoats because they’re all to blame to varying degrees. Except the kids. They’ve done us proud. Everyone else? They’ve shit the bed. Everyone will have their own scapegoats and say “if he’d have done blah blah blah then this wouldn’t have happened” but honestly, when it comes to the outfield players it’s literally all of them. They’ve all contributed to this recent shitshow to varying degrees and we saw that in this game.

 

Diaz was our best player but he missed a great chance in the first half which if he’d scored would have changed things completely. He’s been the one forward who has consistently been at it over recent weeks and he’s put most of his team-mates to shame. Yet for all of his endeavour he hasn’t delivered the quality we’ve needed either. Look at the City game for example. He was great, but the one v one he missed was decisive. Still, in terms of the forwards he’s the one I’m the least disappointed with by some distance. I’m just highlighting him to make the point that even he, the best player we’ve had over this period, isn’t blameless. He just has less blame than the rest, but collectively this has been a huge meltdown.

 

This is the lowest point of the Klopp era by far. We’ve lost finals, missed out on titles on the last day, had some stinking times last season and during COVID but we knew we’d come through all of that and be stronger for it. And we were. Now? Fuck knows. Jurgen is leaving, which in itself is bad enough, but the ‘great squad’ he was leaving behind for his successor suddenly looks nothing of the sort. Now there are question marks about virtually everybody.


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Speaking of fighting among ourselves, two things:

 

1. Diaz's miss was in now way comparable to Darwin's. Diaz was having to take a ball coming over to him in flight, and he had to take it awkwardly on the volley. I can cut him some slack. No suck slack with Nunez.

 

2. Trent didn't let DCL jump over him. DCL started to Trent's right before he made his move. As he started to make his move Trent looked at him, and instead of either stepping towards him to block his path to the ball, or stepping in front of him and trying to win the header, Trent UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLY steps behind him and stands watching as he heads it in.

 

Yep, I'm still an unhappy bunny.

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I took it in stride to some extent because it was coming. The quality of the football has been horrific recently and there was no way we were even grinding out results with it. 

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Didn’t want to read that but glad I did. Klopp has given everything and just looks shattered. Players’ have dropped off but it’s fine margins. Score when you’re on top and game management is different. 
 

A few posters on the match thread pointed out the way the ref gave every soft decision to them, and they got away with a fair bit. The free kick for their first was a joke but that’s how we’re reffed. Slight touch, opponent goes down, free kick. 
 

Agree it’s worse than losing out or a final cos of the nature of it. 
 

 

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Good report Dave.  I'm of the same view.  We shat the bed weeks ago against United, and we've just been rolling around in it ever since, just adding to the shit.

 

I do get the feeling that the unity within the team has gone, cliques have been developing, and even the veneer of togetherness is wearing very thin.  Added to that, the inevitable cooling of relationships between the departing management team and the players, and each of the players having their own distraction by assessing where they want to be next year. You can imagine each of the forward players assuming that they will no longer be at the club next year, and having at least half their mind on discussions with agents etc.  Similarly for players like Elliot and Jones, Robertson, Trent and Gomez - even Alisson.

 

Unsettling times.  Very low register minor key stuff, and we've still got a handful of games to go.  I almost wish we could forfeit them and fuck off for the summer.

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9 minutes ago, Anubis said:

Speaking of fighting among ourselves, two things:

 

1. Diaz's miss was in now way comparable to Darwin's. Diaz was having to take a ball coming over to him in flight, and he had to take it awkwardly on the volley. I can cut him some slack. No suck slack with Nunez.

 

2. Trent didn't let DCL jump over him. DCL started to Trent's right before he made his move. As he started to make his move Trent looked at him, and instead of either stepping towards him to block his path to the ball, or stepping in front of him and trying to win the header, Trent UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLY steps behind him and stands watching as he heads it in.

 

Yep, I'm still an unhappy bunny.

 

1. It's comparable in the sense neither of them placed it into the corner. Nunez's one is ten times worse.

 

2. Yes, all of that, plus he turns his back as DCL soars above him to head in. It's semantics, we're making the same point, just worded differently.

 

I'm as unhappy now as I was when I watching it. Not going away any time soon this one. 

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As my last post on here reflecting on the season etc I am pissed off re individual game performances and this was a stinker. This was on paper our proper first team all the big dicks were back and we were completely outfought where it mattered. They chased and harried and pushed and shoved and I thought they can't keep this intensity up, but guess what we sat on the ball side to side, that gives them rest and time to refocus, when we did step up the tempo it was the desperate blocks and shut outs that we have seen at Palace and Man U.

Fulham bully no one and that is my one fear (excluding Jota making Keita look like a marathon man) is that they are easily bullied. Then there is Mo. Really looks like his race has run. If we sold him many will go great take the cash, hard to disagree as since coming back injured been utter shit. I was shouting for Gakpo then realised he wasn't on the bench either.

I was wanting us to give JK moments to remember on the run in as I had passed on us winning the league. I meant good moments and in sll the years he has been here that is one of the worst. We seem keen to shit on his legacy and lose or draw against all our shit and bitter rivals...

Just end the season now. Regroup get fit and let's see what Arne can do with them because this squad is huge on talent, just need to get huge balls as well. In the last 4 games please give him some proper performances that's all I ask.

Dave spot on report.

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55 minutes ago, Anubis said:

2. Trent didn't let DCL jump over him. DCL started to Trent's right before he made his move. As he started to make his move Trent looked at him, and instead of either stepping towards him to block his path to the ball, or stepping in front of him and trying to win the header, Trent UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLY steps behind him and stands watching as he heads it in.

It was shameful, exactly as you describe it. Wrapping your shirt around your head when you get subbed is fine but you bottled your job Trent, disgusting. 

I genuinely believe we have to look to a new generation now. We can't get rid of all the long term players in one go but I'd start culling this summer and that would include our most highly paid player. 

Good report Dave as always, it's genuinely heartbreaking to see Jurgen looking lost and let down.

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The last time I was as angry at a game was the 2-0 loss at Anfield in the 20/21 season. Similarly gutless performance- especially after the earlier Goodison game when Pickford assaulted van Dijk- in the middle of an absolute horror show of games (6 home games lost in a row, wasn't it?). I think it took us another month to get back on track. Obviously it's too late anyway, but this squad really need to step up now otherwise this season will go down in infamy.

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These same players have fought back countless times from losing positions this season so let's not go way over the top about their mentality. 

 

We've hit the wall though, we have revelled in breaking other teams a few times including starting Arsenal's collapse last year (and getting Manu managers the sack) but Dave is spot on to pin our demise on the FA Cup calamitous defeat when we gifted a manc team ready to have their pants pulled down a totally undeserved win through our mistakes. 

 

There's not been much focus on behind the scenes factors either but surely the Slot new manager stuff in every media on the morning of the fucking derby can't help. 

 

At least all the backroom appointments/ownership will have been settled before the close of the season and the new manager will have some stability behind him. 

 

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The intensity disappeared when our injured players began returning. The non-usage of Clark and Danns has been wretched in the circumstances and gives an awful and very unKlopp message. 

 

We'll get a result against West Ham because the pressure's off now. 

 

Van Dijk's comments are spot on and I don't even mind him maybe pointing the finger at others - he's had a very good season overall and never gets rested. But as someone else said on here, those comments should have been after the Old Trafford league game. 

 

I love Jurgen, but I don't share your prediction of an absolutely funereal last game. I think it could be quite flat and anticlimactic after what's happened, and some of that is obviously on him too. 

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This report basically sums up my feelings. I’m glad someone else has called out Konate because he’s been dogshit since ha came back and we’ve been worse as a team with him in it. 
 

The last 3 weeks have felt like the end of the 1996-1997 season. People look back now and take the piss out of the likes of Harkness, Babb, Ruddock and Scales, but at the start of April 1997 they looked like they might be league champions. I have a horrible feeling that people might look back on Szobo, Endo, Elliott & Nunez in the same way. Obviously I hope I’m wrong, and they got our belief up, but FFS.

 

(For the avoidance of doubt, I am still traumatised by 96/97)

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20 minutes ago, aws said:

We were a lot better before the cavalry arrived.  


There’s always been a consistent bit of that triumph in adversity with Klopp. We were missing elite-level Salah and Firmino for the 4-0 against Barcelona. 

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1 hour ago, El Rojo said:

I love Jurgen, but I don't share your prediction of an absolutely funereal last game. I think it could be quite flat and anticlimactic after what's happened, and some of that is obviously on him too. 

 

Eh? I said it was going to be like a funeral because it will be flat and sad and everyone will be crying their eyes out.

 

If the funerals you've been too aren't like that then fair play!

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Watched it in a hotel in Munich. Just numbed by the predictability of it really. The report is spot on, no disagreements with anything said but can’t reconcile the capitulation in the last four games particularly.

Mentality Monsters?

Not. Sadly.

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Can’t get out my mind that this is pure 1990’s Liverpool stuff. As you alluded to with the 4th in a 3 horse race. It’s massively reminiscent of that season. What does that performance say about those players who are going to one of your biggest rivals fighting for a title for a manager who they’re supposed to be willing to run through brick walls for. They’re a gang of absolute shithouses and there are players there whose performance I won’t forget for a long time. If they stay at the club. 

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58 minutes ago, dave u said:

 

Eh? I said it was going to be like a funeral because it will be flat and sad and everyone will be crying their eyes out.

 

If the funerals you've been too aren't like that then fair play!

 

Yeah, they actually kicked him out of Maggie Thatcher's funeral.

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I'm not sure it's been "over-achievement" before the collapse....

 

It's perhaps no coincidence that there isn't an English side in any of the ECL/Europa Semi-Finals (Villa are in the Conference one).

 

This has been a "poor" English League this year and because of that perhaps we looked better than we are up until recently.  City and Arsenal have come good, and I can still see City maybe pulling away in the last few games.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, beejay said:

These same players have fought back countless times from losing positions this season so let's not go way over the top about their mentality. 

 

That’s a key point - needing to come from behind repeatedly is exhausting - physically and mentally- it’s taken its toll. Of course the key is not to concede first over and over and need to chase the game. We really have been unable to register routine wins agains the PL fodder - that comes at a cost. Both in terms of points and mental and physical exhaustion.
 

Gutted for Jurgen. 

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Tough honest no holds report that just made me feel bad.

I mentioned a few weeks ago that the Klopp announcement may have derailed us and i stick by that. Most have been through take overs and managerial changes and the uncertainty is horrible. Watching Klopp sit through most of the Fulham game was really sad, this beautiful game has broken him.

The pressure the cheats have put on delivering results must be unbearable at his level. 

Got no sympathy for the shite or scabs but the Premier League need fucking for not dealing with the manchestaaaar 115's quicker. 

All of that does not excuse professional footballers from doing the basics though.

 

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16 hours ago, Anubis said:

2. Trent didn't let DCL jump over him. DCL started to Trent's right before he made his move. As he started to make his move Trent looked at him, and instead of either stepping towards him to block his path to the ball, or stepping in front of him and trying to win the header, Trent UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLY steps behind him and stands watching as he heads it in.

 

I'm still so mad about that. He has all the time in the world to see what's happening and deliberately does nothing to prevent it. Nothing! I don't want to see him ever play for us again.

 

If he does play and scores another free kick beauty, celebrating with his shit "shut up finger at mouth" celebration, I'd run out on the pitch as angry as ever screaming to him: "Do you remeber the 2nd goal on the pit you arrogant prick!"

 

 

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