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Monday Oct 30: In one of the more unlikely bits of news I thought I’d ever read, Torres and Arbeloa have a continuing feud that seems to boil over every time their teams meet. One coaches Real Madrid youth, the coaches Atletico’s youth, and whenever they meet there’s murder. Torres refused to shake Arbeloa’s hand at the end of the game and then the players had a mass brawl this weekend. This comes off the back of a confrontation they had in their last meeting when Torres yelled at Arbeloa “I’ll blow your head off!”. This is amazing stuff, I hope they both make it at senior level so we can see this play out. Meanwhile, Vincent Kompany a few weeks ago after the Spurs debacle: “Mistakes are human. I like the fact there’s transparency and that people come forward, own their mistakes, that we get access to the footage. For him personally, we all make mistakes.” Vincent Kompany this weekend after HE was on the receiving end….. Basically four minutes of wah wah wah. Bulb headed, baseball cap with a suit wearing Man City twat. Still no word on Diaz’s dad. This is getting concerning now as the longer it goes the less likely it’s going to have a happy ending. I blame Everton for this. Remember when they signed “Hammez” and were telling anyone who’d listen how they now had "millions of new fans in Colombia"? And now our player’s parents are being kidnapped?? Don’t tell me that’s a co-incidence. They’ll probably post the ransom demands on Grand Old Team.35 points
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Before the game I’d have been made up with a point. After the game, I am made up with the point, especially as we had to come from behind to get it. That doesn’t mean I thought we played well though. We were ok, there were plenty of things to like about this, but we were nowhere near our best. Neither were City, despite Guardiola’s protestations to the contrary. The early kick off after an international break just doesn’t do this game justice. The Premier League are a fucking joke, letting the Manchester bizzies dictate to them like that. This is their showpiece game and it’s been watered down in quality by that kick off time. This isn’t sour grapes as I don’t think it hampered us any more than them. I’m just saying that neither team were near their best level and the spectacle suffered because of it. We got a point though and that’s all that matters. It’s a better result for us than them, especially given they had the lead and were at home. They’d have expected to win from there, I mean, they literally do win all of their home games. Every single one in 2023, in all competitions. Until now. That’s why we should be happy. I wouldn’t be happy to settle for a draw at any other venue (maybe Arsenal currently) but City are better than us and our record there is shit. So this is a really nice result. As for the performance, it’s a weird one because we deserved a draw and did not get outplayed, so we must have played pretty well. If we hadn’t then they’d have taken us to the cleaners like they do everybody else at the Etihad. Yet I couldn’t help but feeling a bit frustrated by our play, particularly going forward where we did not make the most of countless decent situations that should have been converted into decent chances. That has to be a good thing though big picture wise. Going to City and getting a deserved draw without playing anywhere near as well as we can does make you wonder what might have happened if we had played somewhere near our best. Equally though, we didn’t get City on their best day and they were without De Bruyne and Grealish, who along with Son have probably been the biggest thorns in our side in recent seasons. I didn’t think there was anything surprising in Klopp’s team selection. Maybe Konate over Matip, but he’s not played much of late and Joel is in a better rhythm so I’d have leaned that way too. Curtis coming back in made sense because he keeps the ball and he’s our best presser. It didn’t work out like that in hindsight, but the selection made sense. Jota for Diaz was a coin flip really, but I’d have gone for Jota too. He was crap, but there was no way of knowing he would be as he’s been doing well lately. City were able to welcome back all of the players who missed the international games through injury. How about that eh? They all played the full ninety too. No matter how much he wins, Liverpool will always be front and centre in Guardiola’s mind. Sneaky cheating bald fuck.28 points
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Monday Nov 13: It’s been over a week now and there’s been no mention about any charges for Arteta after his outburst against refs. That was as strong as I can remember anybody going after them, and he did it in about four separate post match interviews so it wasn’t just one heat of the moment comment. His club then put a statement out backing everything he said, and absolutely fuck all has been done about it. He repeatedly used words like “disgrace” and “ashamed” yet nothing has happened yet. What are they waiting for? I don’t even care if he had a point or not (he did) because loads of managers (and players for that matter) have had just cause to go after refs, but you still have to face consequences when you do. Except Arteta it seems. Let me just remind you that Van Dijk was suspended for one match and fined 100k for simply saying “that’s a fucking joke”. Nowhere near enough of a stink was made of that when I look back. In other news, Ederson is out of the Brazil squad which means Alisson will play their two games in this break. If I’m Alisson I’d pull out too, because fuck that coach for not picking him. Alisson is a man of God though and probably prays for that coach rather than bear a grudge against him. The easy conclusion to draw here is that Ederson will be fine for the game with us and this is City pulling their usual shit, but I don’t think that’s it. He may well play against us but that doesn’t mean he isn’t legitimately injured now. Ederson probably never thought he’d be Brazil’s first choice and he won’t want to give that up lightly. If he’s out of the squad he’s definitely injured because he’s not going to miss two important qualifiers and allow Alisson back in just because Guardiola wants him to rest. Hopefully it’s bad enough that he loses his foot, but failing that I’ll settle for him missing the game in a fortnight. Ok ok, I’m joking, I don’t really want him to lose his foot, that would be awful. The only City player I’d genuinely wish harm on is that cunt Bernardo Silva.28 points
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A good weekend for the most part, not least because of what happened to Spurs. Laugh? I nearly shat. It’s weird how much hostility I suddenly have for Spurs since that screw job we suffered at their place. It wasn’t their fault, but I don’t like how they reacted to it and every time I looked at the table and saw them above us it gnawed away at me because they shouldn’t be there. Now we’ll see them revert back to where they should be. Injuries have really caught up with them and they don’t have the squad to cope, but let’s also get something straight here, their first eleven isn’t anything special either. At best they’ve got the fourth or fifth best starting line up in the league but their league position seems to have caused some people to get a bit carried away about how good they are. The constant slurping of “Ange” is sickening too and the sooner people see him for the wrong un he is the better. You know I’ve got a gift for spotting these things early (Richarlison, Antony and Coady being good examples) and my radar went off with him very quickly. But he says “mate” a lot when he talks to the press so they all love him. That will wear off pretty quickly if the results dry up, which they probably will now they’ve lost some key players. They were totally outplayed by Wolves despite starting the game well. Johnson gave them the lead after a minute and they did have chances to extend that lead before collapsing late on. Not as many chances as Wolves had though. Wolves had dominated the game but couldn’t convert anything until stoppage time rolled around and they bagged two. The first is brilliant. The first touch from Sarabia to collect a ball fizzed into him is glorious. The finish isn’t bad either. Then right at the very death Lemina stole into the box to latch onto a Sarabia pass to win it. Hilarious. So Spursy. This is Spurs getting to the top of the league and then remembering that they are Spurs…. Wolves are pretty good though. Well coached, some good players, just lacking that wee bit of a cutting edge and officials who aren’t trying to continually fuck them. If they had that, they wouldn’t be too far from the European spots.26 points
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Monday Nov 20: Just when I thought I couldn't respect him any less, Gerrard calls Ronaldo 'the GOAT'. Firstly, him using that term at all is irritating and its bad wool behaviour. Secondly, using it to describe Ronaldo is even worse. And thirdly, his fucking kid is named "Lio" after Lionel Fucking Messi!!! But because he's doing the Saudi PR thing he's now declaring himself "Team Ronaldo". What a knob. This Everton stuff is batshit mental. I feel like I’m living in some kind of bizarro world. I keep hearing people - not just Blues - talking about how harsh and unfair it is but nobody is saying why. It’s like they haven’t been bothered to read up on any of it and have just gone “10 points? Seems over the top” but that’s just not the case at all. It’s incredibly frustrating listening to this ignorance from people who are paid to talk about football. But then there’s the Blues themselves. I saw someone saying today that they’d lost the plot, but that implies they ever had the plot to begin with. The mental ones have gone even further off the reservation, but even the normally rational ones seem to have got swept along with all this. “Corrupt Premier League” they scream. Well, yeah. There is corruption and cheating in the Premier League but you are part of it and your club actually admitted it. They pleaded guilty, so the only decision to be made was whether there were mitigating circumstances for the staggeringly huge losses made. And the answer to that was “was there fuck”. They scream about it being unfair, about the PL being corrupt, about this conspiracy against their club but when you ask them why it isn’t fair they’ve got nothing. Just a shitload of irrelevant whataboutery. Whatabout Man City? Whatabout Chelsea? Whatabout when the Sky Six tried to leave the Premier League? I mean fucking hell, I know one who actually said “what about when Liverpool wore those t-shirts for Suarez”. And he’s one of the sound ones! Like I say, this has caused them to lose their fucking minds and lose all perspective about the situation. I get the feeling of injustice where City is concerned. I’d be pissed off if my club was punished when someone else has quite literally done things over a hundred times worse, but surely they can see that the City thing is way more complex and will take time, not least because unlike Everton City have not pleaded guilty. I’m really trying to see it from their point of view and understand why they’re so aggrieved, but as of yet I haven’t seen a single valid argument for it. I’m willing to listen if anyone can tell me why this is unfair, but all I’m seeing from Blues at the moment is this….23 points
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Oh can't you see You've breached FFP How my belly aches Laughing at your stupid takes22 points
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21 points
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Made up with that. We needed a result and a performance after the last couple of disappointing games and that’s what we got. It wasn’t perfect and on another day this could have been a much closer game than it was because Brentford did what they do well and gave us plenty to think about, but our superior finishing proved to be the difference. We took three of the chances we created, whereas Brentford took none of theirs. And they had plenty. They’re a right handful aren’t they? Especially against the better sides when they change their set up to 5-3-2 and play on the break. They don’t need much of the ball to cause problems and they had the two clearest opportunities of the first half, both of which came at 0-0 I think. If they take either of those it’s a different game. But they didn’t, and it wasn’t. Low key we’ve got something of an injury crisis going on and as a result of that our bench looked like a school kids day out. Robbo, Thiago and Bajcetic are long term absentees, Jones and Gravenberch we knew would miss the game, Macca was suspended and then Konate and Gomez were added to it unexpectedly. I may have forgotten about someone too. The starting eleven was still quite strong looking and we had Elliott and Diaz in reserve, but there was not a great deal else in the way of experience. I wasn’t surprised Diaz was benched but Harvey can consider himself lucky to have missed out, especially to Gakpo who isn’t a natural midfielder. It was only afterwards it became clear what Klopp’s thinking was with that; defending set-pieces. Not only was his starting line up effected by this, but he also left his subs much later than usual because he needed his tallest players on the field while the game was still in the balance. It’s a compliment to Brentford really, but Klopp knows the threat posed. With some opponents you’re wary about giving away corners or free-kicks in your own final third. You can manage that to some extent by keeping them away from your goal. With Brentford it’s not that easy. Look at their first chance of the game that should have led to a goal by Pinnock. It’s a foul by Endo in the Brentford half, but they sent everyone forward and the keeper (I think) knocked it long. A flick on, a cross, some confusion and before you know Pinnock has the goal at his mercy, seven yards out. He skewed his kick wide but even then there was a Brentford player a whisker away from sliding in and converting at the back post.21 points
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Chelsea followed up their impressive 4-4 draw with Man City by shitting all down their own leg at St James’ Park. They’re definitely the most unpredictable team in the league. How can you possibly predict their results? Bonkers team. Generally they’ve played alright but they’re crap in both boxes and it's difficult to win regularly with those glaring weaknesses. They fell behind early against Saudi Arabia when they left Isak all alone in the middle of the box and he finished well. Chelsea then equalised in the most unlikely of circumstances. And I mean that literally, because I’d have said there was more chance of the keeper scoring with a clearance from inside his own box than there was of Sterling planting a free-kick in the top corner from 25 yards. He’s one of the last players on earth I’d want taking a free-kick, but fair dos, that was fucking boss. He did that thing that Ronaldo has been trying and failing with for 15 years. That one where you hit it on the valve with your laces and it dips wildly. Honestly, that’s such a great strike and it’s a huge shock, proving that the sun does indeed even shine on a dog’s arse somedays. Bet he could never do that again if you gave him a thousand tries. That was as good as it got for Chelsea though. Reece James had a torrid time, probably because he’s a right fat cunt. Seriously, look at the fucking size of him and his big arse. What’s he been doing during that injury layoff? Entering hot dog eating contests in America? Proper fat cunt. Seeing him waddling after Anthony Gordon was just embarrassing. Should be ashamed of himself getting into that state. He looked like he was pulling two caravans. Trippier hit the bar with a free-kick before Lascelles headed them in front from a Gordon cross. Terrible defending from Chelsea and seconds later it was 3-1 when Joelinton took advantage of even worse defending. Thiago Silva had an absolute Jon Walters of a game. There’s a viral clip of him trying to do a little trick and then just falling over and conceding a corner, and for that third goal he makes the kind of mistake you just never see from a player like him. Father Time might have finally landed a knockout blow on him, which is a shame as he’s been an incredible player. Chelsea were all over the place after that and James got sent off for a second yellow when he pulled Gordon back. Obviously Gordon made a right meal of it as that’s what he does. Vile cunt him. James’ first booking was a bit harsh I thought. Technically he kicked the ball away but the ball comes to him just as the whistle goes and he’s about to be challenged. He instinctively just flicks the ball around the corner. I’m not saying he didn’t know what he was doing, but there’s enough doubt there that you shouldn’t card him for it. To then pull Gordon back when you’re already on a booking is just fucking stupid, but maybe he had a Just Eat order from Maccies waiting for him in the dressing room?20 points
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Maybe one from 2014, in Gaza, you fat Tory cunt. Fuck off. https://www.nationalreview.com/2014/08/radical-islam-monster-room-lee-habeeb-and-mike-leven/19 points
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Last season called, it wants its dogshit performance away to relegation fodder back. I thought these kind of days were behind us so it’s a massive wake up call to discover they aren’t. Honestly, I didn’t even give Luton a 1% chance of getting something from this game, and while you can say that’s on me, I stand by it and I’ll die on that hill. We should never, EVER, be dropping points to Luton Town. It’s not acceptable. Call that arrogant, disrespectful, whatever you like. I don’t particularly care. Virtually our full strength team (only Robbo is missing) in the form they’ve been in should not be failing to take three points against one of the worst top flight teams you’ll ever see. Yet they did and it was almost even worse as we were a couple o minutes away from actually losing. So what the hell went wrong? A combination of things. Some are easy to quantify, others are somewhat speculative. I’ll start with the speculative. Some will say it was attitude, that we took Luton too lightly and weren’t as focused as we would have been against better opposition. Maybe that’s the case, maybe not. I don’t know and there was nothing specifically in the game that led me to think that. It’s not a completely unreasonable thing to wonder though given how regularly we have been dropping points to absolute shite. It’s over two years since we beat a newly promoted side away from home so complacency might be part of it, but who can tell for sure. I don’t think it was in this specific game though, so I’d rather focus on problems I can actually see clearly rather than speculate over ones I can’t, and there’s quite a few from this game. The easiest thing to do of course is to blame the finishing. That’s definitely part of it but in doing that we’d be glossing over other issues which are more important. Klopp was good post match in that he said that the bigger problem was how we played and that we should have created a lot more chances, and had we done that then eventually we’d have taken one. I totally agree with that, although his tactics largely contributed to it. We had loads of shots, but how many were really great chances? Nowhere near enough I’d say. The keeper has made loads of saves but not one of them was anything I wouldn’t have expected a half decent goalie to make. Alisson actually made the most difficult save of the game.19 points
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18 points
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Monday Nov 6: I’ve fixed the statement that Luton put out today. “Luton Town Football Club is saddened by reports of inappropriate chanting towards Liverpool supporters during yesterday’s Premier League fixture at Kenilworth Road. The atmosphere inside the stadium was electric for the most part of a pulsating game, in which Rob Edwards’ side came close to pulling off one of the results of the season. While we do not wish to dampen the atmosphere at our home ground in any way, we are extremely disappointed that a small number of supporters soured the occasion with chants that may be interpreted as being in relation to tragedies that have affected Liverpool FC in the past. The Club condemns any kind of chanting that knowingly seeks to divide, and our safety and security team launched an internal investigation at the earliest opportunity. What has quickly become evident is that a number of people may have taken part without knowledge that the words used were in relation to the Hillsborough and Heysel tragedies, and we see the route to persuading supporters not to repeat these chants in future is through communication and education. On this basis we are reviewing CCTV and media footage from the match, and will speak to witnesses to identify individuals who may have taken part. Any perpetrators could (will) face stadium bans and potential criminal prosecutions. If anyone has information and video evidence that will support the investigation, please email myvoice@lutontown.co.uk with the subject ‘Inappropriate Chanting’. The eyes of the world are upon us in the Premier League, which we are all learning quickly to adapt to, and we have to remind our supporters that you are all ambassadors of the Club and it is your responsibility to behave according to the rules of the ground. This includes understanding the songs that cannot be sung in line with the Love Football, Protect The Game campaign. On behalf of all at Luton Town, we would like to wholeheartedly apologise to anyone offended by the chants heard during yesterday’s match, and will continue to work with supporter groups to educate fans on chants that are classed as tragedy abuse by football authorities, the police and CPS.” All that extra shit in there makes them look like fucking knobheads. Then you’ve got their fans, acting all indignant about how the chant “isn’t about Hillsborough, it’s about Heysel” as though that somehow makes it ok. Everyone knows it’s a Hillsborough song and regardless of what tragedy they might claim to be referencing, the fact it’s seen by us as being about Hillsborough is the only thing that matters. Luton’s fans were a disgrace yesterday. Some were even chanting about Diaz’s dad apparently. Nothing like the same numbers that sang “Always the victim” but even so, what the fuck is their beef with us? They’ve been in the lower leagues for 30 odd years yet they’re acting like we’re their big rivals. Weirdos. Meanwhile, the reaction of the media to Arteta and Arsenal’s statement isn’t what they probably thought it would be. They’[re being mostly hammered for it. If they’d been paying attention to what happened after our statement they would have known what to expect. We were on the receiving end of the worst officiating disgrace in the history of this country and we had universal support. Until we put out a statement sand then the football world bizarrely went “fuck you for complaining” and sided with PGMOL.18 points
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Yeah but you should see the banner Mr Smith has made. You’ll soon change your tune. He’s arranged to fly it over a different bank at 12.30 on Saturday.17 points
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Before I get onto how shit we were and how we deserved nothing from this game, I’m going to get the VAR shit out of the way first. Yet another absolute fucking farce. Hardly anything will be made of this because it’s a group game, we’re going through anyway and Toulouse fully deserved to win the game. So this won’t get too much coverage in the wider media. Even Klopp didn’t seem to care too much, although I’m sure privately he’s seething about yet another thoroughly unacceptable decision in which officials have ignored their own rules and protocols to ensure the outcome they wanted. Because I don’t know how you can look at what happened here and come to any other conclusion than they wanted to find a reason to disallow the goal and were prepared to go back as far as possible to do it. And that’s before we get into other elements of it. We can just dismiss and say it doesn’t matter because ultimately it doesn’t. But the issue here is that these officials will no doubt be taking charge of games in the knockout stages when it most definitely does matter. It might not be us on the wrong end next time so my anger here is 90% based on the decisions and the process involved in it rather than the fact it chalking off a goal for us. I’d be almost as angry about it if it was happening to another team, as it’s the wider picture here that is important. In fact, I’d have been massively pissed off if it had been Toulouse being robbed of an equaliser against us. It’s really disturbing that this was allowed to happen. Firstly, based on my understanding of the rules and everything I’ve read about it, you can’t go that far back for a handball. Goals can only be disallowed for accidental handball if it’s the goalscorer or the player who plays the final pass that handles. So that’s them going against one of their own rules. Maybe this is only a Premier League thing, but I don’t see how as we’re supposed to be playing by the rules of football. Secondly, phase of play. Toulouse clear the ball after Mac Allister has ‘handled’. That starts a new phase of play, surely? So again, you can’t go back that far even for a foul, let alone a handball which as we’ve already established was irrelevant in this case as Macca didn’t score or assist. Thirdly, UEFA’s own guidelines say this: “no handball offence should be called on a player if the ball is previously deflected from his own body and, in particular, when the ball does not go towards the goal.” So it goes off Macca’s chest, away from goal and brushes his arm. Additionally, he’s trying to pull the arm away and it hits him high, arguably high enough on the sleeve that it isn’t even handball anyway, although that part of it is subjective. The rest of what happened isn’t subjective. So on three different counts they’ve ignored the laws to go back and disallow a goal. Actually wait, it’s four counts because the ref on the pitch didn’t give it as a foul and there’s not enough there to warrant an overturn anyway if we’re talking about ;clear and obvious’. I’m not sure that’s a thing in Europe though and it might just be a PL policy. The other three things though, they apply right across the entire football world. Like I say, no-one is that arsed because of the low stakes involved, but everyone should be because this is just yet another example of how this shit is killing football. When that goal went in nobody was thinking it would be ruled out. Toulouse could have felt a little aggrieved that the ref missed the alleged handball but these things happen, always have, always will, and you live with minor grievances like that (unless you’re an Evertonian).17 points
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I don’t normally do this but I’m going out of sequence and I’m starting with the Monday night game, as it was completely batshit mental. “Big Ange” *vomits* is being praised for not going after the officials in the way Arteta did. Now far be it for me to side with Arteta (I’ll be hammering Legohead shortly, rest assured) but he actually had some cause to be upset with the officials. Postecoglu should be thanking them for not sending Udogie and Romero off even earlier than they did. In addition to the two red card escapes for Spurs, Chelsea had two goals chalked off as well. I’m not saying the decisions were wrong necessarily, just that it’s two more that went Spurs’ way. So what exactly were people expecting him to complain about? He had no cause for grievance, it’s his own fucking players who were the problem as the refs gave both of those two knobheads a second chance and they STILL ended up getting sent off. But he’s flavour of the month and can do no wrong. He says afterwards “yeah mate we all need to respect the refs and stop being drongos mate, y’know mate” (I’m paraphrasing, but only a little) and everyone then overlooks the fact he got a yellow card in the game for having a go at the refs. Bottom line, he had nothing he could really complain about so he complained about being complaining, just so he’s seen as the good guy again. Fuck this prick. He’s the Son Heung Min of managers. Fake nice guy. Spurs led early with a wickedly deflected shot by Kulusevski and they were looking like they’d destroy Chelsea. Then they Spurs’d it up. They just lost their heads. Udogie flew in two footed on Sterling who did well to get out of the way and avoid serious injury. That’s far more of a red card than most we’ve seen this season. Now here’s the thing. I’ve been saying all season that refs should do all they can to not give out red cards unless there’s no choice, as it ruins the game. So I sort of get this. It was a wild, dangerous two footed lunge but he didn’t make contact so they’ve wanted to keep it 11 v 11. The problem I have is when other refs don’t do that. I could reference the Curtis red card but that’s an outlier for me simply based on the fact that isn’t a normal situation as Darren England was there acting on behalf of his Abu Dhabi employers. That game was rigged. A better comparison is maybe the Havertz one at Newcastle, but I’ll get to that later. The point I’m making is that in theory I’m ok with refs taking a lenient approach when they can, but it needs to be across the board as without consistency you’re just going to have the fucking chaos we’re seeing now. So Udogie probably should have gone but you can sort of see why they didn’t want to do it. Then you have Romero. He has to go, even though it’s nothing serious. A kick out is an automatic red, is it not? Or have I got that wrong? I was under the impression that a ref doesn’t really have a choice when something like that happens. Apparently they said it was “petulant not violent” or something. Sorry, but petulance is a red card. Ask Beckham. Ask Rooney. So how are we defining petulance as opposed to violence then? When players go head to head like rutting stags and someone goes a little bit harder than the other and gets a red card, is that violence or petulance? They need to make their fucking minds up here. That incident took place as Sterling was running through to score what he thought was the equaliser. It was ruled out for handball and it’s the right call from VAR. The rule is shit though isn’t it? Sterling hits a shot that is blocked by a defender, it bounces up and hits Sterling on the hand and he then finishes it off. They have to disallow it because that’s the rule. But if a defender tries to clear it, the ball is blocked by the attacker and then hits the defender on the hand it would not be seen as an offence. So what’s the difference? Surely a handball should be judged the same either way? It’s a shit rule that needs changing. That Romero is a fucking dickhead and a massive liability though. He’s like an Aldi own brand Sergio Ramos. The red cards and the cuntery without the talent. He showed his true colours when he was taunting Mac Allister on Instagram after what happened to us at their place. He clearly has no love for the players who carried him to a World Cup winners medal as in this game he tried to snap the shin of Fernandez which cost him a pen and a red card. There was so much going on there as immediately after that challenge the ball broke to Caicedo who lashed it into the bottom corner. Fernandez was down in pain, Chelsea were celebrating a goal and then VAR got involved and ruled it out for offside against Jackson. By the letter of the law that might be the right call (he may or may not be interfering with the keeper’s view) but that’s not what that rule was created for. He’s gaining no advantage, he’s not standing miles offside in the keeper’s line of vision and he’s only about an inch offside. The ball goes through his legs but the keeper isn’t impacted in any way. But the goal gets ruled out because the lines showed him to be a fraction off. It’s just shit. Compare that with the goal City scored earlier in the season when they had a player about six yards off who actually played at the ball and missed it, putting the keeper off. But then City aren’t playing by the same rules as the rest of us. Or any rules at all really. It doesn’t sit right with me that a goal like this one is disallowed for that, but thankfully Romero had gone the full Romero so what VAR took away with one hand they could give back with the other. A penalty and a red card. As Romero left the field I really hope Fernandez told him “go cry at home”. A quick point on VAR here. Not on the people involved, but the concept itself and one of the reasons I want it fucking off. We saw two goals disallowed for Chelsea which would both have stood before this fucking abomination was introduced to our game. Both were disallowed on a minor technicality and that’s the problem. Morally both of those goals should have stood and in the past they would have. It’s like VAR is there to just rule out goals and take the fun and spontaneity out of the game. It’s shit and I hate it. Things that referees miss are often brought back and used to award penalties or to disallow goals. It’s removed so much fun, enjoyment and flow to games now and its shit. I think back to some of the great goals and moments of the past and it’s horrible to think what VAR would have done to them. Everything is under a microscope and it’s made the game ten times worse than it was. Anyway, Palmer converted the pen to make it 1-1 and Chelsea got on top after that. Then came the second red card when Udogie made another wild challenge on Sterling and was given a second yellow. Fucking idiot. There was so much time left in the time and Spurs incredibly decided to play a line so high it was occasionally in the Chelsea half. You do that when you’re two men down and can’t put pressure on the ball, and it’s basically football suicide. Many don’t want to say that out loud because it goes against the whole “Big Ange is the best thing to ever happen to football” narrative, but it was probably the single most stupid tactical thing I have ever seen in my life. Against most other teams it would have seen them concede double figures, but somehow Chelsea didn’t take advantage until deep into stoppage time. They should be ashamed of their performance. I sat there watching this and honestly couldn’t believe my eyes. I don’t know what was worse, the crazy tactics of Spurs or the absolutely fucking clueless way Chelsea went about breaking it down. I’ve never seen anything like it. There were times when you had the Spurs backline holding on halfway, with the rest of their players stood about five yards in front of them, like statues. And Chelsea somehow couldn’t get in behind them. All it takes is one run and a simple pass lads, this shit is stuff even school kids know. I’m 50 now and haven’t broken out of a brisk walk in about six years yet I think even I could have got in behind that Spurs line. Chelsea have won 4-1 away at Spurs and yet I somehow think even less of them than I did before the game. This was so bad I’d be hugely worried if I was Pochettino. The timing of the runs from the forwards (Sterling apart) was shit, but even worse was the inability of the defenders or midfielders to play a pass in behind. Lads, it isn’t difficult, what the fuck were you doing? Sterling must be wondering what the fuck he’s signed up for here. The City team he played in would easily have piled up double figures against that Spurs set up and he’d probably have scored four or five himself. I wanted spurs to lose this game but Chelsea were annoying me so much with their ineptitude I was half wavering and thinking I wouldn’t mind if Spurs held out for a draw. Eventually Chelsea finally got in front when Sterling made a run and they finally played him in. He squared it and Jackson squeezed a shot inside the post. He almost missed that, which would have been in keeping with everything he did in the game prior to it. Even with nine men Spurs looked like they could score, but that says far more about Chelsea than anything else. All of this “brave Tottenham” and “yeah we’re gonna have a go mate, y’know” bollocks is laughable. Spurts get no credit for any of this, it’s purely down to Chelsea playing like schoolboys. If this game had ended 2-2 it would have served Chelsea right as they were fucking shit at both ends. This game was in the balance even deep into stoppage time, which is damning on Chelsea. Bentancur could have made it 2-2 but missed the target from a yard out. Must be a Uruguayan thing? Son went really close too but just couldn’t get his shot close enough to the corner and Sanchez was able to save. Chelsea then went up the other end and Jackson scored a carbon copy of his first goal. He nearly missed this one too. After half an hour of not having a clue suddenly Chelsea realised that an early ball in behind was the way to beat the high line *slow handclap for Chelsea* and Jackson ran clear to complete his hat-trick, although he almost fell over before he went round the keeper. Most undeserved hat-trick of all time as he was fucking woeful. Spurs fans though, they’ve been duped by that manager. Loads of them are praising the brave approach but it wasn’t brave, it was fucking idiotic and if Chelsea were any good you’d be looking at a Premier League record scoreline. “Even if we had five men I’d still have a go mate” Postecoglu said afterwards (I didn’t paraphrase there, its an actual quote). And just like that, any suggestion this guy might be the real deal was blown out of the water. What he did in this game was stupid beyond belief. What makes it worse is he saw what we did with nine men against his team and he spoke afterwards about how difficult it was for them. So when it happens to him he goes and does THAT. Seriously, what the fuck was he thinking? I’ve genuinely never seen anything as stupid as that, but it took Chelsea half an hour to figure out that a ball in behind to a runner from his own half will get in every time. It took Jackson half an hour to figure out how to stay onside and it took their midfielders half an hour to play a forward pass. As soon as they did that they scored three goals in about five minutes. Like I say, it’s not hyperbole to say a decent side scores ten there. Their unbeaten record has gone which is only right. It would have gone weeks ago but for that cheating cunt Darren England. Spurs will revert back to the mean now, especially as they’ve lost Maddison and Van de Ven to injury. On there plus side, Richarlison is also sidelined. They’ll go back to being Spurs now though. Decent side, top five at best. Now go get your shine box.17 points
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Well that was about as entertaining an experience as it's possible to have on a cold Thursday night at Anfield in the Europa League. To say it was "big coat weather", would be an understatement and both Dan and I (the only Team TLW lads doing the Europa matches this season) duly obliged. Because it was fucking Baltic, regardless of the warm glow of pleasure emanating from a very comfortable 4-0 win that left us as group winners before the season moves up a gear as we head into a very busy December. As expected, Klopp made a selection that looked easily good enough to win the match, while simultaneously resting some of the big guns. The presence of Virgil, Macca, Dom, Joel, Trent and Darwin on the bench spoke volumes, as did the fact that the first four of those names remained there all night. Klopp has quietly become arguably the best manager around for making use of his full squad, keeping everyone happy without letting standards or development dip (recent strange and humiliating defeat in France notwithstanding). It shouldn't be forgotten that we've already had quite a few significant injuries and suspensions this season, yet Jurgen has managed to negotiate pretty much every hurdle before us, regardless. Further tests await on that score - not least Alisson's absence for the next couple of weeks, minimum - but we must acknowledge that the days of a first eleven are pretty much gone now and we seem all the better for it as a club, despite still rapidly developing a new way of playing with many new personnel. Despite the many changes, virtually from the instant the match kicked off, we were playing some really nice stuff: all fluid movement and crisp, intelligent passing. Obviously both the quality of opposition and the fact that we were at home have to be factored into assessments of the significance of the performance, but I can't be anything other than pleased to see a heavily rotated team play some really entertaining stuff. We seem to have almost instantly switched from being a turgid and predictable mess filled with players whose standards had fallen off a cliff just a matter of months ago to a side now brimming with young, hungry, intelligent technicians. In fact, I don't think we've had a technically better squad in all the (approaching 40) years I've been seriously watching Liverpool. As fans I think we take for granted a little the fact that - almost to a man - the entire squad plays sensational one and two touch, head up football that's imbued with intelligence and composure. For examples last night, look no further than Harvey Elliott and Jarell Quansah. Harvey has to be the best midfield decision maker for his age I've ever seen. Not only that, his movement and use of the ball are as technically prodigious as they are tactically astute. For a player who has only known the best of the academy era of professional development, maybe those things should be a given (even ignoring the fact that he seems to be levels above all his peers). However, look at the unrelenting desire to maximise every element of his game evident in his clearly improved core strength this season. For inspiration, he's not had far to look and it seems obvious that Mo's mentorship of him is showing itself in a growing physical development that seeks to emulate that of the superstar captain for the night. Harvey was really fucking good last night in a manner that utterly belies his age - a description that can be equally applied to his teammate at left centre half. I don't religiously follow the youth teams at Liverpool, but it's pretty unusual for me to be completely unaware of the names of the various young prospects making waves in our development sides. However, until pre-season this summer, I had never registered Jarell Quansah's name. It therefore feels slightly bizarre that he's made such a seamless, calm and confident transition to first team squad member so quickly. But that's exactly what he is. I've resisted eulogising him too much, despite his obvious technical, tactical, physical and mental strengths as he's yet to be fully tested at this level. No matter that he appears to have the touch, height, pace and strength to play centre half for Liverpool, until I've seen him come under real pressure from the kind of physical duel-happy forwards the Premier League is full of and escape unscathed, I will retain question marks about him. However, until that test is passed, I think it's also fair to consider that maybe the reason he's not come under pressure is as much to do with how he plays as with whom he's faced. Either way, it's getting harder to temper expectations. Nothing will deflect me from my view that we need another left footed defender, but that needn't be at Quansah's expense. In fact it mustn't be. We need to keep him very firmly on this apparently exponential development path he's on because who knows where his ceiling is? In terms of the game itself, despite the front-foot bravery of LASK (or maybe because of it), we played fluent attacking football right from the off which was swiftly rewarded after just twelve minutes with the first goal. Luis Diaz collected the ball running across the edge of the penalty area from the left following a little half-stabbed clearance, and immediately played it out to the overlapping Joe Gomez who hit a lobbed half volley into the six yard box which Diaz ran through to dive and bury himself with a superb flick of his head that left the keeper stranded. This was followed a mere three minutes later with a trademark Cody Gakpo back post tap in from Mo. Salah received a pass from Endo out on the right touchline maybe ten yards inside the opposition half and immediately hit a first-time ball to Diaz on the edge of the D which cut out three opposition players. Unfortunately Diaz mis-controlled the ball, but then pounced as the centre half failed to clear convincingly under pressure from Gakpo, playing in Mo as he ran into the penalty area from the right. He was closed down and challenged as he played the ball in for Gakpo, but it wasn't enough to prevent the assist. You know, assists: they're those stats that Dave reckons are meaningless, even though only a handful of players in the game consistently deliver them in high numbers. No, I'm not letting this one go, regardless of what the data geeks think about them as a stat; why the fuck would we dismiss a statistic that the players themselves are proud of or that some of our lads are setting all-time records for? What next? Tap ins no longer count as goals because they're so easy? There goes a certain a certain centre forward's "career" record. (Sorry John - I know that'll sting a little about your boy, but truth hurts). Anyway, enough about "Kenny" Usher's nonsense, back to the game. Throughout the first half, LASK had a number of instances where they broke through our back line with skill, intelligent movement and purpose. However, virtually every single one was flagged as offside (regardless of the infuriating VAR policy-related late flagging from the linesman). It blows my mind a little how many of our fans are still not used to this because it is an absolutely fundamental part of how we play. You may well find it difficult to watch at times, but it's a well established tactic that, crucially, is brilliantly effective. So despite what commentators or various fans may believe, we didn't actually come under much pressure at all. I only know one team that is able to consistently exert pressure outside the laws of the game and it's not LASK. File this one under the same tab as "Alisson can't kick"; he clearly can as his frequent ability to control the ball with either foot and pass it long or short with total precision attests. Alisson's problem is not his ability to kick effectively; it's his over-confidence in doing so when under a high degree of pressure from opponents. Even then though, it very rarely costs us and so I'm more than happy to see it continue (even if I'll concede that it's nervy to watch at times). So as I said, offside "chances" are not changes; they're offsides. That said, egged on by their consistently loud and supportive away fans, LASK kept plugging away when they could, including deep into the second half when already well beaten. However, they were unable to do anything about multiple further chances and goals for us, including a great effort from the recently revived Kostas who hit an absolute peach that was unlucky to hit the crossbar after he got over the ball well and struck it sweetly. Normal goal-scoring business was resumed soon into the second half though when Gakpo created his own opportunity to go one on one with the keeper and used a good burst of pace to edge the ball away milliseconds before being brought down for a penalty, duly dispatched by Mo to take him onto 199 goals for Liverpool. Another game, another record for the main man. This was also his 16th consecutive game at Anfield with a scoring contribution (I won't mention the A word again) and he extended his European record for a player representing an English club to 44 goals. He's unbelievable - almost literally so. The guy has huge moments every single time he steps onto the pitch, regardless of the narrative around him - including from some of his own fans - that he doesn't dominate games. Chris said on the pod in the summer/early season that he'd give Mo another contract right now and I absolutely agree. We have one of the very best players in our entire history (certainly an all-time eleven player) who is adapting his game for new tactics and team mates in a changing body as he ages and yet he's still there game in, game out delivering. I see absolutely no let up in his hunger and it defies what we know of his ambitions as a player that he's simply biding his time for the Saudi call. That looks years away to me - if it ever comes (I reckon he'll want to retire at the very top with us). The final goal came two minutes into injury time with Gakpo running onto an absolutely perfectly weighted fizzed ball from substitute Trent who'd run through the middle of midfield to do so. Cody cut onto his right and lashed it in beyond the keeper at the far post. 4-0, game over. So, given the other result in the group last night, we have qualified top and don't need to give serious consideration to this competition again until March. Don't get me wrong though - I badly want to win this. And we absolutely should win it too, playing this way. I see no reason at all why Klopp can't complete his clean sweep of trophies with Liverpool in Dublin in the late spring of next year. However, it's not just the prospect of further silverware that I'm appreciating about this competition; I'm also delighted to see how positively its affected our development, both accelerating and honing our transition into a new way of playing with lots of new or changing players. I'd never have chosen this route forward last season, but now we're here, I think it's obvious that Champions League participation would have made it far harder to rotate and develop players in the way we have so far in this campaign. Star Man is Cody who had arguably his best performance for us, with nods to Harvey, Joe G and the consistently classy Gravenberch too. And so onto December which brings a step change in challenge for us, both in terms of the quality of opponent and the frequency of matches. However, as I've said repeatedly on the pod this season, could any of us seriously have expected such a rapid development in our football by this stage of the campaign? It seems that yet again Jurgen is defying received wisdom of what's possible in football and long may it continue. Given our strength at Anfield, I'm expecting a big December from us, regardless of the quality of opponent coming to try their luck. I remain focused on second as a realistic prediction of where we'll end the campaign. However, throw into the mix highly possible European and domestic cup wins and it's starting to feel like there's a really great end to a highly enjoyable campaign on the way. Come on you Reds!!! Team: Kelleher; Gomez, Konate (Alexander-Arnold), Quansah, Tsimikas (Chambers); Endo, Elliott, Gravenberch (Bradley); Salah (Nunez), Gakpo, Diaz (Jones): View full article16 points
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There's actually a deeper and somewhat sinister symbolism to the shite being allowed to accuse football authorities of corruption simply for punishing them for breaking the rules. The same sort of forces were roused by Trump and Brexit, I'll do what I want and if you call me out I'll make it look like I'm being mistreated because I'm actually the virtuous one here and you're not. I've sad for years the really bitter, nasty shit was unleashed by Moyes with all the people's club shit, and it's always been the 'go-to' solution to divert fan anger from their own failures. Lampard was no different. When populist politicians fuck up, they point the mob towards a fictional villain. The elite, the refugee hordes, the woke. When everton do shit, they point the finger at us, or the Premier league, or anyone else except them. Their ex players do it all the time, fan this narrative that their fans are special, or have some kind of moral superiority. That they're hard done by. It's produced the same mob mentality. That's how you end up with pitch invasions, directors having their lives threatened, fucking road blocks. The shite about our lads using inhalers and it going unchallenged was peak modern everton. They're a Trump/Brexit/15 minute city fanbase surrounded by their own enablers, their own social media spin, fanning their conspiracies and bile.15 points
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Monday Nov 27: More craziness from the Blues. They’ve got major beef with Sky now as well as the “Corrupt Premier League”. They’re going mad because Sky didn’t show their plane during our game with City. What did they think was going to happen? There are so many reasons why Sky were never going to show it, and every one of them is valid. Firstly, it was City and Liverpool playing. Who gives a fuck that some knobheads with an unjustified beef are making a protest? If Sky show that then they’re opening the door for anyone else who wants to get publicity for themselves. Just because you fly a plane over doesn’t mean Sky have an obligation to show it. Secondly, it’s City v Liverpool. The biggest game of the season. People are tuning in for that, why would you take eyeballs away from that to show a fucking plane making a false claim about the Premier League? Thirdly, the PL and Sky are business partners. There’s no industry in the world that is going to promote slander of a business partner. The whole thing is hilarious, you could hear on TV the plane circling the stadium as the game was going on but nothing was said about it and they sure as shit didn’t show it. Maybe Everton can claim the cost of the plane and use it to help offset some of their losses on their next set of accounts? Meanwhile, staggeringly bad officiating fucked Wolves again tonight. Wolves fans piss me off but I’ll happily stand with them against Howard Webb and his band of knobheads. What happened tonight was a fucking joke, yet again. Poor Gary O’Neil, he’s a top fella and the way he’s handled all of the incompetence he’s been hit with this season is admirable. It wasn’t the on-field ref tonight who was the problem, it was the clown on VAR, Stuart Atwell. He’s awful isn’t he? Some of them I think are biased and have agendas. Him? I just think he’s truly awful. He massively favoured Fulham tonight though and Wolves have every reason to feel victimised again. Newcastle fans were attacked in Paris tonight and it’s lucky that nobody was seriously hurt as it looked pretty bad. The Geordies who travelled are almost certainly not the bellends who attacked the PSG fans the other week though. Everyone said at the time that those pricks were just ensuring that things were going to be really dangerous for the ones travelling over and that’s what we’re seeing now. It’s the kind of thing you often get from Italians or Turks. They kick off in their home leg and then it’s the fans who go to the away game who pay the price. We’re in 2023 and you’ve still got wankers carrying on like this at footy. Hopefully no-one gets seriously hurt.13 points
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Best league in the world. Apart from the sportswashing. And the incompetent/biased referees. And the worst application of VAR in any of the major leagues. And the constant shithousing, diving, feigning of (head) injuries. And the tragedy chanting. And the hypocritical managers. And the vacuous pundits. And the agenda -driven journos (Bluto ,I’m looking at you). And the rip off ticket and tv subscription prices. (But let’s not let any of that undermine the narrative, WE HAVE A PRODUCT TO SELL!)13 points
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It’s not often I’m wrong and when I am I’ll do whatever it takes to dig in and find a way out of admitting it. So this doesn’t happen very often, but I’ll hold my hands up and say I was wrong about Eddie Nketiah. Not specifically because he scored a hat-trick in their 5-0 rout of Sheffield United, I’ve been thinking it for a few weeks but didn’t want to say anything in the hope that it was just a purple patch and I was actually right about him. I’m not though, he’s proved me wrong. I never thought he was shit, but I didn’t think he was good enough to play for a team at the level Arsenal are at and saw him more as a Bournemouth or Wolves level player. He’s much better than that. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying he’s great or anything but he’s way better than I gave him credit for. Mark that one down in your diary as it will be a few years before I ever need to (or am willing to) eat humble pie like that again. His first goal was lovely. Quality first touch and then a composed finish. He went to the fans and was pointing to his ear though. Not sure what that was about but maybe Arsenal fans felt the same way about him that I did? His second was a clinical finish after the keeper flapped at a corner. Again, he kind of just stood in front of the fans with a look that said “how do you like me now”. Then he banged in a beauty for his hat-trick and although he was at least smiling at this one, he pointed at his chest and then at the turf as if to say “I belong here”. Then he celebrated with the subs, not the crowd. Saka gave him the match ball and only then did he acknowledge the fans. He obviously thinks Arsenal fans are knobheads, which makes me appreciate him even more. If he wasn’t playing for them I’d be anointing him “my boy” this week. Arsenal were then awarded a penalty for a foul on Vieira. The ref missed it but VAR correctly identified it and told him to look at the screen. Norwood did that footballer thing of pointing at the ball and dismissing the grounded player as though he didn’t touch him. Except he was nowhere near playing the ball and his studs caught his opponent on the back of the heel. Footballers are such cheating fucks aren’t they? They all do it, the only thing that differs is the varying degrees. Is Norwood pointing to the ball that he didn’t play any less of an offence than a player diving? Both are trying to con the ref. Nketiah let Vieira take the pen and he made it 4-0. Tomiyasu made it 5-0 from a corner. His first ever goal for them that, but Sheffield United are so bad that’s going to happen a lot. Joe Gomez will probably score against them. There was an Emile Smith Rowe sighting. Where the fuck has he been? He looked good a couple of years ago but Arsenal seem to have outgrown him now. I know he’s been injured but even when he’s fit he doesn’t seem to get a look in and they’ve bought a few players in his position. He’s done a reverse Nketiah. He’ll be the one at Wolves or Bournemouth. Probably Leicester actually, they’re coming back up and have tried to sign him before. Sheffield United are clearly shit, but they’re also ravaged by injuries and there’s just no way a team like that is going to be able to cope. Even at full strength they’re probably the worst team in the league (maybe Luton) but things are so desperate they’re currently having to start Rhian Brewster, who is fourth or fifth choice I think. His first start for a year this was. I didn’t even see him on the MOTD highlights. Not his fault, they barely left their own half. Dire.13 points
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My daughter is a teacher at a school for kids with special educational needs that has recently been deemed outstanding by OFSTED. They do amazing work there getting through to kids that can't go to a mainstream school. They had a burst pipe about 3 weeks ago that caused a lot of damage, carpets, bean bags, iPads, laptops amongst other things including a brand new floor that lifted. The carpets and flooring was covered by insurance, the laptops, iPads etc weren't and they couldn't get funding to replace them leaving the kids without. What sort of country is it when staff have to set up a Go Fund Me page to try and raise the money needed to give these kids, all SEN, the tools they need to give them the best chance in life. It's shameful and it's all on the Tories. Bastards every one of them.12 points
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Gutted I won’t be watching this as I’ve got my elderly mum staying with me, she has Parkinson’s and is hard work, bless her. Mr Suzy has broken his arm and can’t drive so it’s a nightmare. Anyway, my sister who lives 2 hours away is coming to take her out to lunch today and some shops if she wants to. So… we are going out ourselves for a quiet lunch! Did consider just watching the match in peace but we’re hardly leaving the house at the moment! Back to the match - I’d love it if we smashed them but will be happy with a score draw!12 points
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That Michael Owen programme is such a wasted opportunity. Instead of the Party Political braodcast on behalf of the PGMOL party, he should be sticking the boot in: - Howard, it was a crock before you came along - how do you explain the fact that, unbelievably, it's far worse now? - Why were Oliver, England and his mate allowed to do a foreigner, paid for by City's owners, when it's such a clear conflict of interest? Have they been rebuked in anyway, is there now a policy with regard to this? Does he think Michael Oliver was influenced, consciously or otherwise, when he gave awful decisions to City against Arsenal, and as VAR, against United? - Why were yellow cards getting dished out left right and centre for a few games for waving imaginary cards and kicking the ball away..... and not so much since? - Why do refs routinely allow free kicks and throw-ins to be taken 10, even 15 yards from where they should be....... but insist on corners being moved 1 cm if they're not touching the quadrant? - how do you not see that a defender, and we all know the usual suspects, boxed in, is going to thow himself to the floor under minimal, or zero contact, when the whole stadium knows what's coming - why do you always try to rationalise decisions as if there is always a pseudo-scientific rational, when so much of the rules are wholly subjective? - why are you all such a bunch of cunts - is it part of the personality profile, or do you have to develop it? Btw - the audio on that Newcastle penalty against Wolves was fucking horrendous - how they bent over backwards not to contradict Taylor when any idiot could see it wasn't a penalty on the first replay. Staggering.12 points
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"It was revenge for speaking out about the Sly 6. They were made guys and there was nothing we could do about it"11 points
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All those pundits and MP's ignorantly spouting off about how 'unfair' this is should be forced to read that Sam Wallace article as many times as it takes for them to realise how wrong they are.11 points
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We have lost titles because another team cheated using financial doping we deserve those titles, the club deserve those titles, the players deserve those titles, the staff deserve those titles. Yes we could not celebrate them at the time, shit happens, but we still deserve them and should obviously get them.11 points
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Not as bad as I used to be. When my mum got out of hospital when i was six they gave her a wheelchair while she heeled up but I used to get her to push me in it instead. Old people used to come up to me and make a fuss but my legs were perfectly fine. I once got her to push me from my nan's to our house because it was raining, a distance of about two miles, in an old pram. I was about 12 at the time. A couple she knew stopped us in the street on the way back and I hear the fella say "didn't know you'd had another little'un?" He looked under the hood and I was just glaring back at him, and he just went "oh.". I reckon I was about 5ft 6 at this point.11 points