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Just saying, if you're in an intensive care unit for whatever reason, you've got machines doing the work for your organs. It stands to reason people won't have a good prognosis. It's not a stat to be worried or surprised about.

Not it isn't. It's standard for an ICU.

Those people were not ready for prime time. This is a difficult situation. Putting essential tasks and emergencies aside, if you're not capable of seeing the big picture that it's better to stay where you live for an extended period of time, you need to change your behaviour. But these lockdowns won't be continuous, anyway.

Right, you got me down to a tee. I'm a big government guy.

Cops and the military will die from this too. I don't think they're very much enjoying being outside, coming in contact with people who may be infected.

This is an unrelated incident from two years ago. I'm talking about the measures being employed now, in the context of a global pandemic.

I can safely predict in two years time they will still like donuts and coffee. Bit of a stretch that in two years they'll be beating you up because you went outside, though.

The people worried about these lock downs being the first step toward some kind of long term martial law or police state situation couldn't be further from the point and are weirdos.

Sick brag.

I said "in theory". No one knows shit. Everything is a presumption.

Italy have ramped up testing in the past few days and the increase of cases have still been lower than last week, for example.

Deaths lag weeks behind. It takes about 3 weeks for this thing to kill people with the incubation period and the progression. Those deaths are reflective of what was going on 3 weeks ago, not now. So in theory, the percentage increase of cases going down or being steady right now is a good sign for the future.

They could be. The percentage increase of cases has either been steady or descending in the past few days and that's with more testing. The people dying now are the people who got sick around the time of the lock down or just after.

Is the UK testing more in this timeframe than Italy where? Because it seems like Italy was basically unaware of what was going on for a long time and everyone there were basically living normally.

I don't think it has to do with dickheads. The virus seemed to be circulating pretty early on in Italy pretty much unbeknownst to anyone. That's not the case in the UK and as a result even the light measures will probably have some kind of impact. I'd be surprised if the UK gets to Italy level.