The Guest

Another loss in the bag this financial year. This time it’s only £53m.

I either completely forgot or never knew that Trent only signed a 4 year deal. If that’s the case it suggests to me he didn’t want his final year being an international tournament year. It gives the clubs a bit more clout with the threat of putting them in the bench. He’s 100% orchestrated the whole thing from a longer time ago than people think. I agree on the transfer fee thing. I’d go further and say both the club and the player know what they agreed to and if the contract starts running down then that’s just part and parcel of it. He doesn’t owe us anything. I’d prefer the club to be stronger though and stop letting players get all their own way right up until they leave. I mentioned it in the transfer thread a week or so ago that we could start looking like a sinking ship very quickly and we might already be passed the point of no return because of how inactive we are in the transfer market year after year. It’s all well and good being more clever in the transfer market and and pulling off a season like we have this year with basically no signings but it sends a bad message out to the players. Spending loads of money doesn’t guarantee you anything as we’ve seen with various clubs but spending fuck all and flogging what good players you have to death always ends the same way. We’ve seen it before. All your good players start to leave and you struggle to attract new ones. At that point we might start panic spending Caicedo style and that will make the situation even worse.

Honestly mate how dense can you get? He wants to go to Madrid. The club can’t force him to sign a contract just like they can’t force him to move to any club they fancy selling him to. He’s run down the contract because he knows that tied down to one Madrid would never meet Liverpool’s valuation of him. His only way of engineering a move there was running down his contract which he has done. He will no doubt be getting a a big signing on fee as well.

The problem for Bradley is that the manager hasn’t had the balls to drop this cunt when it needed to happen. We should have been building Bradley up to playing as a first choice player. Instead he gets minutes here and there and then we wonder why he gets injured coming in from the cold. It’s been obvious Trent was off since at least the start of the season with all that robot dead behind the eyes speak he does. Remember all that stuff about wanting Slot to improve him as a defender. Fucking comical looking back at it now. It was the most transparent “please play me for this season even though I’m clearing fucking you off next summer on a free that I orchestrated a year ago.” Slot being green to how much of a self absorbed twat he is then had the temerity to sub him off for Bradley and the toys come out of the pram. Clearly the robot fake shite hadn’t worked so he needed to kick off to make sure Slot didn’t do what was necessary and it worked a treat. Slot completely bottled it. He even threw out the worst performance I think I’ve ever seen in a Liverpool shirt against United and it was brushed under the carpet and he kept his place. He’s put some good performances in of late such as PSG but it shouldn’t diminish just how shite he’s been this season. He’s been a fucking disgrace and his attitude somehow got even worse than previous seasons. Most games we will not miss this bell end at all and in the big games we will hopefully have 11 men actually trying instead of 10.

We will probably end up taking him back here if we are in a state which most likely will be and our transition into modern day united will be complete.

Yeah I’m not buying this he owes the club stuff. The club knows what it is getting into when it takes kids on and invests in them. They aren’t doing it for the love of kids or the city. They want good players so they don’t have to pay transfer fees. There’s an argument that walking away at 18-19 to another club on a free would merit that response but not at his age. He’s played here for years and the club had its options before then. I know Dave said we aren’t city or United where we are rich enough to just put players on the bench to force them out but maybe that needs to happen to show players it isn’t in their power. You would only have to don it once. When Trent’s toys came out of the pram early in the season when he got subbed it showed his hand massively. He was reacting like that because the thought had probably crossed his mind that the club would start playing Bradley to get him ready for when Trent leaves and he wanted to make it as difficult as possible. Slot shit his kecks and played Trent every time he was available from then on regardless of Trent’s and Bradley’s form We should have said to him there and then get Madrid to offer 50m and you can go otherwise Bradley starts every game he’s fit ahead of you. We did a similar thing with transfer years ago. After years of getting lowballed for squad players we started refusing to let anyone go for crap offers. The result was we started to get good transfer income with the odd player going on a free. It was good business. We’ve let that go too far now and nearly every player is running their contract down. It needs to be addressed.

He’s going to fall out with Bellingham at some point over there and the result will be hilarious. I don’t think people realise how big of an ego this cunt has. I’ll just be made up to not have a lazy cunt walking around the pitch having to be carried every week. They’ve got no idea what they’re signing and it might not hit home until they play competitive games but he’s going to be a massive liability just like he was for us and he won’t have the blind faith backing him. It was mad that it took him to to put that Man United performance in before some people realised what he was actually doing.

Do you not think he’s just doing a version of himself in most of his awkward/shouty aggressive scenes though? You can name lots of actors that convey emotion on their face well. I think his best scene in it was when his lad is getting strip searched. It’s absolutely brutal and he doesn’t over sell it at all. As I said I’ll watch most things he’s in because he’s clearly got an eye for what will be good. I just don’t think he’s this amazing actor everyone says he is.

I go up and down with Graham. He’s been brilliant in some things like This is England, the Virtues and he’s great in this as well. People go well over the top about him though. I’ll tend to watch most things he’s in because they always seem to be good regardless of him. I find him unbearable in interviews, never mind getting into the sun stuff. Any accent he does is genuinely awful. From the American one to the posh one he did in Bodies. They’re all crap and sound put on because obviously they are. The worst of all though is his own accent. I wouldn’t even call it scouse. It sounds like a scouser who’s forgot how to talk trying to put a scouse accent on. It’s like John Bishop, I don’t think I’ve ever come across somebody who talks like him in real life. I don’t know if it’s because he lives somewhere else and has done for a long time (genuinely I’ve got no idea) but there’s just something very off about the way he speaks and the fact he does his own professional scouser act a lot of the time goes in hand with it. I always wonder nobody ever picks up on it. I think he’s a bit of a fraud and the kicking off/not apologising about the sun photos backs it up.

The summer is going to be carnage. We aren’t signing a left back while Robbo and Tsimikas are here. It was the least of our worries in the summer and it will be the same this time around. I reckon there’s even a possibility Trent, Virg and Salah all leave and we don’t sign anybody. Just basing off how comically we behave in the transfer market. We are going to be getting gazumped by every other club for the players we want. It’s going to get even worse because of how bad a sinking ship we will look.

People are blaming the club because both Van Dijk and Salah kicked up a stink about the club not offering them deals to stay and suggesting the club didn’t even speak to them about it. They both clearly wanted to stay earlier in the season. Van Dijk suddenly went very quiet up until recently while Salah kept talking it up in the press. Everyone was sucking Van Dijk off over it when the reality was that he had probably agreed a contract elsewhere at that point so no more need to try to force the clubs hand.

You’re missing the point. I’m saying he’s happy to completely ostracise a player to the point he’s not getting any minutes against poor opposition in the league when our forwards need some rest whether from the start or when the game has been won. He’s then happy to throw him on in a cup final. It’s not consistent because if he’s good enough to bring on then surely he’s good enough to play in these other games as well (which he clearly is). The same goes for Endo and Elliott.

Klopp literally played a team of kids in the final last year and won it. Slot had pretty much his first choice 11 bar Trent and we couldn’t create a chance for 80 minutes. Klopp also had a mostly new team last year that was growing. We’ve been shit since January started and aren’t handling any pressure at all well. Both City and Newcastle were absolutely awful in the league and that’s the only reason we haven’t already shit the bed. Slot has largely been great because of the first 5 months but if Klopp had no city to contend with and Arsenal falling over themselves every week then I think he would be handling these other competitions better than Slot. The idea that Slot could win all the trophies and people would still be moaning is daft. We’ve been awful for months and these past two results have been coming. We’ve just got to hope we can crawl over the line in the league. We are a Van Dijk injury away from this being the worst season there’s ever been and it’s because we should be out of sight.

He rebuilt the team last season and we were on for the title up until about 8 games to go. Slot has been left a very good side coming into its peak. At this time last season we were absolutely flying in all competitions and with kids winning this one. He’s fundamentally done the right thing which was to not fuck with it too much and he found a place for Gravenberch which was very Klopp-like. All this shite people talk about his style being very different to Klopps “heavy metal football” is absolute horseshit. For about the last 4 or 5 years of Klopp we generally played quite slow possession based football. I’d say Slot has been slightly more negative generally with the odd shithouse set up. If city were with us now I have no doubt we would have shit the bed the league by now.

The strangest thing about today was the chiesa sub. It was probably the most worrying thing for me. It looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He hasn’t used him at any point when he should have done in all these games when he should have been giving the other players a break and letting him get some sharpness. I’m not sure if it was him making the point of he doesn’t rate him or he didn’t want him but then in a cup final he’s throwing him on. It’s took him practically all season to shit the bed and start using Elliott as well. It’s like it’s just suddenly dawned on him that playing all of our best players for 90 mins every game has had a detrimental impact and that some of these squad players can have a positive impact if you just give them a go. It’s probably unfair because he’s clearly learning on the job but had Klopp been in charge I think we would be flying in all competitions still.