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When Lurtzy finds out you're jumping on his specialist subject you've had it.

 

A.G.

A.G.R.O

A.G.R.O, AGRO.....

 

Nah, it's cool. I'm happy that there are others as excited about this as me.

 

I'm still wondering how the hell they are going to make The Hobbit into two films, considering how small the book is.

 

I hope its a massive success and then someone decides to make a film out of the tale Of Beren and Lúthien.

 

Dude. Seriously.

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The films are not just going to be the Hobbit are they?

I though they were covering the time between the Hobbit and the LOTR,the time in mirkwood etc.

 

I need to read parts of the books again but it was the story of Beren and Lúthien

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It will be fucking ace if they fill all the gaps from the time of the hobbit through to the start of the LOTR but I cant see that happening in a cinematic sense. I imagine it will end with the battle of five armies. More likely we will get more back story from before the hobbit I would have thought

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You can fit The Hobbit into a single two-and-a-half hour film. Easily. The same way you could have fit Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows into one film had you cut out all of the boring camping shite. It's pure greed by the film companies.

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You can fit The Hobbit into a single two-and-a-half hour film. Easily. The same way you could have fit Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows into one film had you cut out all of the boring camping shite. It's pure greed by the film companies.

 

It won't make the films any less enjoyable though SM.

 

And the fact remains we still don't know for sure if there are going to be two films about the Hobbit or one about the Hobbit and another to fill the 60 years upto the start of The Fellowship. Nice to see some people judging the output before it's even halfway through being filmed though. The expertese of some critics is breathtaking.

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Condense the trilogy, extend the tiny novel.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Jackson manges to get Arwen into the plot, sigh.

 

It's a little harsh to say he condensed the trilogy; I think he did the best he could to be honest. He had to fight tooth and nail (not to mention pitch to at least three different studios) to get it made into three films from the Miramax orginal offer of condensing it into just one film.

 

I wouldn't call The Hobbit 'tiny' either. Given that it's a children's book it's fairly weighty.

 

I'm delighted personally that it's going to be two films. Couldn't care less if it's cynical by the companies involved. One of my all time favourite books being made into two films? Yes please.

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The Hobbit: latest casting revealed on Facebook | Film | The Guardian

 

It's enough to shake Tolkien fans to the soles of their furry feet: director Peter Jackson has revealed on Facebook his latest casting for his ardently awaited film The Hobbit - and it's Dame Edna Everage.

 

Strictly speaking it will not be Dame Edna herself appearing, rather her creator the Australian comedian and actor Barry Humphries, who will play the Goblin King.

 

"We're looking forward to seeing him invest the Goblin King with the delicate sensitivity and emotional depth this character deserves," Jackson said. He also referred to Humphries's other monstrous creation, the Australian cultural attache Sir Les Patterson, whom Jackson said was "rather misunderstood and unfairly maligned".

 

The director also confirmed that Benedict Cumberbatch will feature as Smaug. The news that he would appear was leaked some weeks ago by his co-star in the award winning Sherlock Holmes series, Martin Freeman, who plays the eponymous Hobbit, but his role was unknown until Jackson revealed that he will be the treacherous dragon. In the book Smaug spends much of his time snoring on a great hillock of gold and jewels before flying out of his lair breathing flame and wreaking havoc.

 

The Canadian actor Evangeline Lilly, who starred in Lost, will also be in the film, Jackson said. Since strong female roles are thin on Middle Earth in Tolkien's work, they've invented a role for her as Tauriel, a woodland elf. "Her name means 'daughter of Mirkwood' and, beyond that, we must leave you guessing!" Jackson wrote, though he did disclose that there will be no romance with Legolas. (Orlando Bloom, pointy eared pinup star of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, will return to play Legolas - even though the character does not appear in the original book).

 

The number of British cast, including Stephen Fry and Sir Ian McKellen, contributed to a dispute with unions in New Zealand complaining that local actors and production crew were getting less favourable terms. The problems which beset the project, including Jackson's illness earlier this year, have all apparently been resolved, and the first of two films is due in cinemas in time for Christmas next year.

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It's enough to shake Tolkien fans to the soles of their furry feet: director Peter Jackson has revealed on Facebook his latest casting for his ardently awaited film The Hobbit - and it's Dame Edna Everage.

 

Strictly speaking it will not be Dame Edna herself appearing, rather her creator the Australian comedian and actor Barry Humphries, who will play the Goblin King.

 

"We're looking forward to seeing him invest the Goblin King with the delicate sensitivity and emotional depth this character deserves," Jackson said. He also referred to Humphries's other monstrous creation, the Australian cultural attache Sir Les Patterson, whom Jackson said was "rather misunderstood and unfairly maligned".

 

The director also confirmed that Benedict Cumberbatch will feature as Smaug. The news that he would appear was leaked some weeks ago by his co-star in the award winning Sherlock Holmes series, Martin Freeman, who plays the eponymous Hobbit, but his role was unknown until Jackson revealed that he will be the treacherous dragon. In the book Smaug spends much of his time snoring on a great hillock of gold and jewels before flying out of his lair breathing flame and wreaking havoc.

 

The Canadian actor Evangeline Lilly, who starred in Lost, will also be in the film, Jackson said. Since strong female roles are thin on Middle Earth in Tolkien's work, they've invented a role for her as Tauriel, a woodland elf. "Her name means 'daughter of Mirkwood' and, beyond that, we must leave you guessing!" Jackson wrote, though he did disclose that there will be no romance with Legolas. (Orlando Bloom, pointy eared pinup star of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, will return to play Legolas - even though the character does not appear in the original book).

 

The number of British cast, including Stephen Fry and Sir Ian McKellen, contributed to a dispute with unions in New Zealand complaining that local actors and production crew were getting less favourable terms. The problems which beset the project, including Jackson's illness earlier this year, have all apparently been resolved, and the first of two films is due in cinemas in time for Christmas next year.

 

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Yeah im not keen on inventing new characters.

I didnt mind melding some of the characters in the first, like giving Treebeard some of Tom Bombadills lines as it made sense but to make new characters is poor

 

 

I'm not defending it, as such, but I suppose the issue is the opposite of the LOTR problem: perhaps there simply aren't enough characters in The Hobbit.

 

I read it after LOTR and it did seem a bit simplistic compared to that.

 

How the fuck they'll wring two films from it God only knows, although I suppose that's another reason to have more characters in it. Especially female ones.

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The films being made are not just the work in the Hobbit. Its the story of the return of the spirit Sauron after his defeat at Dagorlad and his return as The Necromancer of Dol Guldur.

Well that was what was said before filming started.

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The films being made are not just the work in the Hobbit. Its the story of the return of the spirit Sauron after his defeat at Dagorlad and his return as The Necromancer of Dol Guldur.

Well that was what was said before filming started.

 

At last, the story of Sauron's defeat at Dagorlad and his return as The Necromancer of Dol Guldur is being brought to film!

 

My prayers have at last been answered!

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Just looking for any new info,according to IMDB list of cast

Benedict Cumberbatch ... Smaug / Necromancer

 

Sounds like the Necromancer in Mirkwood is in the films

 

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Benedict Cumberbatch as the voice of Smaug:[31] One of the last remaining dragons in Middle-earth. He guards the treasure in Erebor.

Also voices the Necromancer:[31] Ruler of the stronghold of Dol Guldur in southern Mirkwood, he is later revealed to be Sauron and is driven out by the White Council.

 

Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins:

Ian Holm as old Bilbo Baggins:

Ian McKellen as Gandalf the Grey:

Richard Armitage as Thorin Oakenshield

Graham McTavish as Dwalin

Ken Stott as Balin:

Aidan Turner as Kíli

Dean O'Gorman as Fíli

Mark Hadlow as Dori

Jed Brophy as Nori

Adam Brown as Ori

John Callen as Óin

Peter Hambleton as Glóin

William Kircher as Bifur

James Nesbitt as Bofur Fucking shit casting,smug cunt

Stephen Hunter as Bombur

Andy Serkis as Gollum

Hugo Weaving as Elrond

Benedict Cumberbatch voice of Smaug

Mikael Persbrandt as Beorn

Lee Pace as Thranduil

Stephen Fry as Master of Lake-town

Cate Blanchett as Galadriel

Christopher Lee as Saruman the White

Sylvester McCoy as Radagast the Brown

Elijah Wood as Frodo Baggins

Orlando Bloom as Legolas

Evangeline Lilly as Tauriel

Jeffrey Thomas as Thrór

Barry Humphries as the Great Goblin

Conan Stevens as Azog

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