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The days when they were rich. Optimism is such Kopite behaviour How to start without this sounding like another Football Manager inspired piece of fluff writing.Well let's start at the beginningWe have a new owner, one who accoriding to an ever increasing amount of media reports, wishes to not only put a fair bit of investment into the team, but to completely change the nature of how Everton are viewed, not only inside football circles themselves, but also on a much wider base, the aim being to make us an attractive vehicle for commercial deals from companies that wish to hitch their vehicles to us.How is this achievable?Firstly - a new stadium, but that comes with the caveat of no matter how quickly it can be done and how high profile the new stadium is, that it will still take time - minimum of three years if everything goes smoothly, second - new commercial deals, yet again we are in a short term timescale at least tied into most of these deals, so yer again will take time for them to expire and for us to be able to negotiate on our terms, various parts of the commercial side of the club have been moved out of house and need to be brought back in house, so yet again this will all take time to achieve.So whilst waiting for all the above to happen, Mr Moshiri is left with the conundrum of what to do now, and strange as it may sound, the delays on the ideas i have just mentioned can be seen also as a positive, because what they enable us to do is to raise the profile of the club and the marketability of it in the meantime, the easiest way for this to be done is by overhauling the PR side of the club, which i believe we will be in the process of doing - and maybe are already seeing the results of that with the new directors actions thus far. The other way is by makings us for want of a better word a 'sexy' club one that has the average joe bloggs with no real strong allegiance flick the match on when we are playing over choosing another game, be that a guy sitting in his 5 bedroom house in Devon, or a group of lads gathered outside a bar in India or Thailand etcSo how to make us Sexy...Raise the profile of the club through a statement signing, or several of these, various names have been bandied about, most of whom whilst very good footballers will not exactly have the likes of Nike and such rushing to throw big fat deals at us, to a football purest they may make sense, Scneiderlein, Witsel etc are all very good footballers, but are they a 'statement' - the short answer is no, they will improve the team, they will move us up the league, but they won't change a thing on the grander scale of how we are perceived.So what type of big name signing can we make, what is a realistic 'statement' - who can we attract, and why would they come? and who would make a difference on a global scale - which is what Moshiri is aiming for.Before getting into naming names, we have to think about the finances of the club right at this minute and make a few assumntions on what we have and what will happen shortlyAs @The Esk has stated in several other threads, we will look to raise our wage structure by at least 35-40m this season over the currently allowed amount of 7m allowed by the premiership FPP rules, and we are in a situation that the money is their for whatever we can attract to us, so say a estimate of a 150m transfer budget (high end estimate), to allow us to move the wage structure of the club up sevral notches, we will need to sell Stones for example, so overall the budget will be more in the region of 200m to spend, and with a 47m increase in the wages we pay per season allowed - which tarnslates to a 904k increase in wages across the club.So here we are, sat with 200m to spend and with 900k pw we can spend on incoming players, let's add to this total with players already departed or who are likely to depart in the near future (yet more assumptions i know), Osman, Hibbert, Pienaar, Howard - 160k pw, Stones, Cleverley, McGeady, Kone and Naisse (loan) - frees up another 200k pw and liklely brings in about 10m in added fees on top of Stones.So we are left with 210m and 1.26m per week in wages we can offer incoming players now, when you look at those figures they are mind blowing, but by all accounts they are what we will be dealing with this summer in all likelihood shoudl Moshiri manage to do what he has set out to do (and given his record so far - we shouldn't doubt he will manage what he sets out for)Say Lukaku and Ross resign for massive improved deals, and across the squad in general a fair few new and improved contracts are given out, which wipes out 260k pw and in doing so sets the bar for wages at a massively higher total - 140k pw for Lukaku, 100-110k pw for Barkley etcand now let's say we get a few of the players we have been linked with in - the likes of Strootman (20m), Witsel (25m) and we go for Butland (30m) and VVD (30m), we buy Milik or Janssen for 15mthats 120m spent, and probably looking at around 500k in wages (again a generous estimate)leaves the club with 90m and 500k in wages still burning a hole in our lovely Iranians pocket, but no statement signing, just some very good ones that will make the team very competitive, say we then blow a 30m bid on Perisic (current flavour of the month after his Euro exploits and also a position we depserately need sorting) and we give him parity with rom on wages - so another 140k and 30m gonewe are then left with a 60m and 360 pw situation, to go out their and target a 'statement' signing for the club to propel us into the spotlight, go throw that at Madrid, offer them their asking price for James Rodriguez and see what they actually say when we slap the money on the table, and see what his agent says when we offer to double his current 110k pw wages.Honestly it sounds mental even typing this out, but money talks in football, and if we are serious in making a statement then we couldn't make a bigger on than this

Not a grand time to be a blue? Steve0 Player Valuation: £40m Aug 20, 2017 Add bookmark #1 Gueye - £75m Keane - £60m Williams - £10m Rooney - £20m Klaassen - £35m Sandro - £18m Martina - £6m Schneiderlin - £45m Lookman - £25m Pickford - £90m Basically him and Walsh know what they're doing. The Kones and niasses are consigned to history. What a time to be alive, what a time to be a blue.

They're a mess now, dont sound like they have much money, no players to sell off for big money to fund a spree like Barkley and Lukaku. Two of their best players are on loan, Zouma and Gomez, they'll have to spend about 50-60m just to stay as they are. They got no striker of note either. Unless they have another 100m to spend, they're not gonna be improving. Add to this, Baines and Jagielka nearly finished, Gylfi being shit, a lot of them saying the broken leg has finished Coleman. Small arms in goal and they're squad numbers are dwindling. I reckon next year could be THE year they go. Worrying times. Only Uncle Uzzy can save them.

Is it wrong to feel a bit aggrieved that we didn't go 1 down and have the entertainment of The Drowning Man making himself look a cunt.

There’s a thread over there titled ‘Watford fans’. This is the opening post. john jako Player Valuation: £20m Today at 8:27 AM Add bookmark #1 Are they all going abit over the top with there hatred for Silva? Is it justified? I find it all abit small club mentality. Discuss. Theyre lack of self awareness is astounding. They’d never go OTT on their hatred for someone that jumped ship, would they? anyone remember the ‘Die die Nicky Nicky die’ in the Barmby Derby? The stick Moyes had when he went back with Utd? Sammy Lee last year.......and he was on their payroll! They hate Barkley, fuck, some don’t even after jump ship, they just need to put red on their Xmas tree. Small club mentality indeed.

Speaking of the loon........................... Steve0 Player Valuation: £40m Today at 5:51 PM Add bookmark #14,914 Couple of things that stood out for me in liverpool's financial results were the fact that they only paid 10m of the FSG off. This is strange when the interest rate has increased to 2.4%. FSG seem determined to eke as much as they can from this stone. Considering it's over 100m profit one can assume they wont be making any payments next year when they make a loss, all the while the loan creeping back up to where it was at the start of this year. And the staggering wage bill of 263m, which will have increased quite dramatically this year with new deals galore and keira and Fabinho on multi million pound contracts, salahs wage doubling, mane doing the same , TAA etc. Turnover was basically maximised last year, it could easily drop below 400m. Even last year that 58% of turnover. With wages going up and turnover down we could see wages of over 300m next year (263m + keita 6m + fabinho 5m + allison 6m + 12monyjs of vvd instead of six 4m + new deal for mane 4m + new deal firmino 4m + new deal Robertson 3m + new deal other 5m? + signing on fees....) We could a wage to turnover ration of over 80%. It's no wonder Andy Hughes was being so cautious in his press remarks. He can see the storm ahead.

Yeah, but if we hadnt sold Coutinho, we’d be operating at a loss. Worrying times.

Fuck that, we've won the league with 4 games to spare. I'd want them cunts relegated. What a double that would be. Loss for me Clive. The celebrations of winning the league and them going down would be absolutely immense.

This Pilks fella wouldn't just take them losing to City, he'd actually take relegation if it stopped us winning the League........... Pilks Player Valuation: £750k Dec 29, 2018 #12,270 I'd be sorely tempted for us to take one on the chin and take relegation to stop them winning it... we could come back up in a year and all would be as it ever was... It's a price, but up against Klopp gurning frantically from every available angle for a year and Salad being anointed as the New Pharoah, I dunno...

This Pilks fella wouldn't just take them losing to City, he'd actually take relegation if it stopped us winning the League........... Pilks Player Valuation: £750k Dec 29, 2018 #12,270 I'd be sorely tempted for us to take one on the chin and take relegation to stop them winning it... we could come back up in a year and all would be as it ever was... It's a price, but up against Klopp gurning frantically from every available angle for a year and Salad being anointed as the New Pharoah, I dunno...

Brilliant. We win on Saturday and the pressure is back on City v Chelsea. Worst case scenario will be level on points with a game in hand, and you've given up on them! Blaming Klopp for his team selections and subs when were breaking LFC records in the process! admittedly we don't look great at the moment but nerves were always gonna kick in and/or we were always gonna have a dodgy spell. When/how did you become so spoilt?

We’re gonna finish 3rd aren’t we. Automatic qualification for Champs League........Is that positive enough?

This Pilks fella does really like us does he. The sad fucking cunt. For anyone thats registered over there, type his username in the search function on top. Seem he only ever posts in the Liverpool thread, some of his posts are gloriously bitter Pilks Player Valuation: £750k Oct 16, 2018 #7,958 I can't stand Klopp, the gurning, showboating cocktrumpet. 'Decent fella'? Not on my watch... As for people still talking about hating Pardew - not me. The man scored the goal to get the RS knocked out of the FA cup semi final by Palace, the same team the flat-track bullies had beaten 9-0 at the Pit the same season if I remember correctly, to much smug mirth. He'll always be a hero to me. He could feed my dog into a wood-chipper and I'd only be mildly irritated... Like Quote Reply Report Likes:cronullasharks, Roger Milla, PITA and 5 others

Please tell me more about these values ToffeeTim Player Valuation: £70m Yesterday at 10:45 PM #2 Anyone promoting Benitez has no respect for the values of the club What next? Will we get Fowler in to coach the youth, maybe Rush in to coach the reserves. Let's get Sammy Lee back as Rafas no.2 sure as well. Give me strength. Like Quote Reply Report Likes:Eggsyblueskin, Riquelme, Dario Terracotta and 31 others

I don’t want the season shortened, I’m not arsed if it gives the players time off after international tournaments. It’s upto the clubs as to how they deal with it. Just because Fulham and Hudds are extremely shit this season isn’t enough of an excuse. If it happened every season then I’d maybe change my opinion. But as far as I can see, this season is one off to have 2 such poor teams in It.