Qatar World Cup 2022

[m0e]

16 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

Because you shouldn’t be prevented from travelling and watching your national team in a World Cup finals. 
 

Why should, for example a Welsh gay bloke who has followed his country home and abroad for decades not get to see them play live at a World Cup finals? 
 

After having to face discrimination, negative bias and open homophobia for decades why should he now stop fighting for his rights and stay at home and miss out on quite possibly a once in a life time opportunity? 
 

It’s a fucking stupid question and deliberately provocative. 

Negged. 

 

I didn't ask that question. I asked why you'd want to go to Qatar if you were LGBT+

 

You can get all offended if you like, but your apparent outrage is pretty pathetic.

 

[m0e]

4 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

So they should give up their rights as a gay person? 

I think you're either being thick on purpose or you are genuinely thick.

 

[lifetime fan]

2 minutes ago, m0e said:

 

I didn't ask that question. I asked why you'd want to go to Qatar if you were LGBT+

 

You can get all offended if you like, but it's pretty pathetic.

 

And I answered why a gay person might you fucking bellend. 

[m0e]

Just now, lifetime fan said:

And I answered why a gay person might you fucking bellend. 

Are you gay?

[El Rojo]

6 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

So they should give up their rights as a gay person? 

Of course not - it’s just another reason why it’s obscene that the event is taking place there. 

[m0e]

1 minute ago, El Rojo said:

Of course not - it’s just another reason why it’s obscene that the event is taking place there. 

Yeah. So let's all make a big deal about it 4 years after the announcement.

[Elite]

26 minutes ago, m0e said:

Are you gay?

I can honestly say. I've never come over a little queer 

[razor]

59 minutes ago, m0e said:

Yes. And Qatar doesn't offer that.

 

So why would you want to step foot in that country?

 

Why should they be invisible?  Or made to feel invisible?  Is it inconceivable to you that an oppressed minority might want to assert their identity?  Maybe not even in a visible protest way, but as a self-validating statement?

 

 

25 minutes ago, m0e said:

Yeah. So let's all make a big deal about it 4 years after the announcement.

 

Do you understand anything about the news cycle?  When the environmental apocalypse finally bites, you'll be able to huddle around your charred tin of Heinz beans and say, "Ah, I get it now.  It's only when something is actually happening that it's news."

 

28 minutes ago, m0e said:

Are you gay?

 

Classic.

[m0e]

5 minutes ago, razor said:

 

Why should they be invisible?  Or made to feel invisible?  Is it inconceivable to you that an oppressed minority might want to assert their identity?  Maybe not even in a visible protest way, but as a self-validating statement?

 

They absolutely shouldn't be invisible. That's exactly the point. By going there, they either have to be, or they'll be put in cells.

 

This is a classic case of the holier than thou brigade making a massive deal about something when its far too late, and that should have been tackled head on when it happened.

 

It's the same for the LGBT fans of Man City and Newcastle.

 

So I'll ask again. Why would anyone from that group even consider stepping foot inside that shithole?

[Bjornebye]

As long as they don't start bumming each other in public I'm sure they will all be fine. 

 

Thge thing shouldn't be hoested there though I'm sure we all agree on that. Corrupt evil cunts. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I don’t think that’s fair Moe, I didn’t like it then and I don’t like it now. I don’t think it’s ‘holier than thou’ to continue giving the same opinion at the start of the tournament. I actually don’t understand your objection here. Are we supposed to just shut up because we’ve known about it for years? 

[m0e]

7 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

I don’t think that’s fair Moe, I didn’t like it then and I don’t like it now. I don’t think it’s ‘holier than thou’ to continue giving the same opinion at the start of the tournament. I actually don’t understand your objection here. Are we supposed to just shut up because we’ve known about it for years? 

 

Everyone in the LGBT group that I have contact with kicked up an absolutely massive fuss when it was announced.

 

It's everyone else I have an issue with.

 

No one is supposed to shut up. That's exactly what they're asking you to do when you get there.

 

It's best to vote with your feet, as they say.

[Torvald Utne]

29 minutes ago, m0e said:

So I'll ask again. Why would anyone from that group even consider stepping foot inside that shithole?

 

I've stepped in here half way through a conversation that I simply can't be arsed to read so forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick but I imagine they would go for the same reasons that tens of thousands of others are going, to watch football and support their nation (yuk!).  Probably thinking they have a right not to be excluded.

[m0e]

Just now, Torvald Utne said:

 

I've stepped in here half way through a conversation that I simply can't be arsed to read so forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick but I imagine they would go for the same reasons that tens of thousands of others are going, to watch football and support their nation (yuk!).

 

In a place that doesn't welcome them?

 

If they're happy to do that, happy days. I wouldn't.

[Captain Turdseye]

10 minutes ago, m0e said:

 

In a place that doesn't welcome them?

 

If they're happy to do that, happy days. I wouldn't.

 

You wouldn’t welcome the gays? 
 

Wow. We got there in the end. Disgusting. 

[Torvald Utne]

12 minutes ago, m0e said:

 

In a place that doesn't welcome them?

 

If they're happy to do that, happy days. I wouldn't.

[m0e]

3 minutes ago, Torvald Utne said:

Ahh I see.

 

So they're on their way there to stand up for their rights.

 

In a country they don't live in.

 

Just like MLK did.

 

Got it.

[Captain Turdseye]

What is your problem with the gays watching a bit of footy, m0e?

[Torvald Utne]

4 minutes ago, m0e said:

Ahh I see.

 

So they're on their way there to stand up for their rights.

 

In a country they don't live in.

 

Just like MLK did.

 

Got it.

Precisely why I say fuck Ukraine, I don't live there

[Scott_M]

A player in one of the 32 squads should come out next week. More high profile the better. 

[Scott_M]

On 10/11/2022 at 00:24, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

That is never not funny. 

[m0e]

18 minutes ago, Torvald Utne said:

Precisely why I say fuck Ukraine, I don't live there

 

You have an extremely deluded idea of your impact on this world.

 

It's kinda cute.

[Captain Turdseye]

If Ukraine had beaten Wales, they’d be in the group with England, USA and Iran. 
 

I can’t help feeling that’s a missed opportunity. 

[Scott_M]

Anyway, I’ve put in the England squad thread, the Netflix documentary on FIFA that came the week is very good. 
 

Maybe nothing particularly new but it’s good having all the accusations in one show.

[Megadrive Man]

57 minutes ago, Scott_M said:

A player in every single one of the 32 squads should come out next week even if they aren't really gay. More high profile the better. 

Fixed.