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They keep pushing this lie, aiming to get it to stick as a false equivalence, the Hillsborough playbook again

It was interesting that during the apology yesterday while he was at the dispatch box, he was directing it at Conservative MPs who along with the donors and the newspaper proprietors/editors are one of the sole groups of people with any power in the UK.

Can't wait for the various press reviews where the S*n and Mail front pages are seen as 'legitimate points of view' rather than overt pathetic propaganda. I note the Times (another rancid Murdoch organ) are at it as well with their framing of the story.

According to the Ashcroft polling yup, incredible propaganda work they've done given their backing by donors with infinite amounts of dark money, huge swathes of the press and the easy terrain of the demography. I do wonder if Labour trying to sidle up to the Mail and the S*n and flashing their eyelashes by saying they won't raise the top rate of income tax or capital gains is going to work? Given recent headlines probably not...

Exactly, those areas are all getting older and home owners have seen the value of their house increase. This stuff is not rocket science, appealing to people's sense if 'values' over material interest is never going to work.

Oh and the only Labour/Lib dem voters they come onto contact with are either their kids or nephews who live in London/Birmingham/Manchester and moan at them whenever politics comes up.

If you are a retiree living in the home counties/middle England who is seeing their house increase in value by 12% per annum and reads either the Times, Mail or Express, why would you vote against this government and by extension Johnson? To note there a huge numbers of the above person and they vote approximately 82% of the time and they are distributed evenly throughout constituencies in England and the Welsh border marches.

Imagine having a Dunblane massacre happening on a yearly basis, but throwing up your hands and saying "there's nothing we can do about it". Beyond pathetic.

Shock jockery->annoyance to outrage->clicks->advertising revenue->more shock jockery It basically what a huge amount og the social media platforms business models are based on, it's best to block this mince out

How do they do it? Winning 4 league titles out of 5 on such meager resources?

I think the thing for me was seeing Liverpool amass the largest ever point total in the combined histories of themselves, Manchester United, Arsenal and not win a league title. That should have sent of a flashing alarm somewhere, but no there was very little step back and overall review of what is happening to the game, "It's great they're investing so much" seems to be the view. I think what Klopp and the team have achieved has been nothing short of amazing he has taken on one of the wealthiest nation states on the planet and has beaten them on one occasion and has got very close on two others. I do find their behavior and utter petulance in recent years directed towards Liverpool pretty strange as the challenge the club have brought has actually lent their ridiculous financial doping legitimacy, otherwise people would be a lot more opposed to it. If it weren't for Liverpool the points gap would be pretty ridiculous. For other opposition fans they are reveling in the fact Liverpool can't win the title, well we'll see how happy they are when it's either a binary choice of Newcastle/Manchester City or an occasional Manchester United or Chelsea win for decades on end. To be fair though there is a degree of hypocrisy here from myself as I really enjoyed Manchester United being prevented from winning the league by Manchester City in 2012, I look back and almost regret that now, it was a sign of things to come.

Completely agree with this, the lad is our 3rd most expensive signing of all time and offers incredibly little, I think he is out of his depth physically in the premier league, the Thiago loss for Saturday is a huge problem and midfield is an area we really need to reinforce in the summer if we are going to have another tilt at the cup competitions (given City are likely to spend their way to the title again). There also seem to be a billion twitter/social media weirdos who absolutely love Keita and I really don't understand why.

To be fair they basically had to have their homes set on fire and under 6 foot of water along with some extremely draconian lock downs to throw off the Murdoch yoke partially. We've got no chance...

I think you might be right on the earlier point, mass dehydration, lack of booze in the ground, sunstroke, hangover from the day/prior days catching up with them combined with a limited songbook/chants

Depends on which game Stevie prioritises, I think he might go full strength against Burnley and rotate a bit for Manchester City.