Numero Veinticinco

I gave the reasoning. I showed you the post. You said you didn't say a thing, you did, then you lied about it. Again. As ever. I'm done with you.

What a lying cunt you are. This forum jumped the shark long ago.

Fingers crossed, but I just don't see it. And the thing is, the public seem to be even more in favour of it now than then. I fear it's a losing battle on this one. I was talking to one of my German mates about this, and he's quite a forceful guy when it comes to letting his view on the UK leaving the EU be known, and I had to agree with pretty much everything he said except that the reality is that the benefits - and of course, there are some - are being trumpeted and it's working. I just can't see a return. He wants to see a United Stated of Europe lead by Germany... so, ya know, I'm not sure 'bout that one either.

Yep, for sure. Honestly, I’m bored of this entire thing. It’s an argument that has no relevance. We’ve left, we need to get on with making the best of it.

Hahahah. The context helps make my point not hinder it. So… what about the first quote? Exactly as expected. Exactly as expected. There is no point taking to you because even when it’s clear and right in front of you, you either ignore it or don’t admit it.

Part of being a good defender is having the physical attributes to do it. Virgil’s pace is unreal, his physical presence is unreal. For all his ability as a defender, if he was 8 stone and slow, he’d be a fraction of the player he is. The point is, it’s not the icing on a cake so much a prerequisite in the same way somebody with a great boxing brain isn’t going to do well if they’re gassed after two minutes or somebody who is great with a racket but doesn’t have the strength to deal with fast aces won’t ever make it. You need these things to be a bloody good defender in the modern game. Otherwise you’ll get outpaced or outmuscled pretty quickly. We all want him to be a bloody good defender, but that doesn’t mean we should belittle the other attributes.

The guy is a fucking unit, that's for sure. He can really shift, too.

I already did that before I replied, of course. I wouldn't have called you out for telling porkies if I hadn't just read you saying it. Before I share the post, I want you to answer one question, do you know what Ipse Dixit is? Do you realise that you typing 'no' doesn't make it so. You seem to believe that things are true because you've said them. Anyway, in the full knowledge that you'll not actually answer that question, and in the knowledge that you'll now try to pretend that the stated benefits of staying in an organisation aren't reason for not leaving the organisation - as anything will be more palatable than just holding your hands up and saying 'huh, fair enough' - I'll post it anyway, but before I do, why didn't you just admit it? If you think that the organisation makes it impossible to go to war, why wouldn't you just admit that - as you did in the post that I'm about to share - it is one of the benefits of staying in the EU and not leaving it. It's absolutely weird that people box themselves into these corners. I'm actually rolling my eyes at what will be a painful response about how it doesn't mean what it says and how I'm a cunt and yadda fucking yadda. This is all so fucking tedious, Angry. If you think it, just say it. In response to the question 'what are the benefits of STAYING in the EU' which is to say, not leaving (surely, please, just accept that staying is the opposite to leaving when talking about membership of the EU, otherwise just call me a cunt and I can forget this entire thing) you replied talking about the impossibility of war. So to say you've not used it regarding the UK's membership of the EU is - being generous - forgetfulness. You keep doing this. You keep pretending you don't hold positions you clearly do. You do it with Corbyn and you've done it again. Anyway... That's pretty clear, but if not, here's another one.

Oh for fuck sake. Why would you say such a thing. It's so obviously untrue.

I was more talking about those on here who make it, like angry. Not sure what the actual remain campaign were saying.

I always thought the anti war argument against leaving the EU was facile. Most of these nations are in NATO and have a incredible levels of interoperability and cooperation because of it. To hand wave that away is probably due to lack of understanding about how these countries militaries operate.

Just like last time. So…

Yep. Looks like I finally did something right by getting people on to them. Last lot were those bad Facebook blerts. This lot seem exceptional.

Yes, they're excellent.

I think it was good. Well worth a watch. 8.7 on imdb, 92 on Rotten Tomatoes, 96% of google users liked it. Generally well received outside of Paul's view. That's not to say he's totally wrong, but he is totally wrong. I'm looking forward to 'What if...?' now. Sounds like it could be good.