The Stone Roses

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Better.

[Mook]

I've had a listen on my fancy new sound system and have decided that they need to sack the producer, mainly for making Mani and Reni sound rubbish.

[thegreatelephant]

got 2 standing for Sunday for less than face. result. although probably means they'll be going for fuck all around the venue

[Red Phoenix]

I've had a listen on my fancy new sound system and have decided that they need to sack the producer, mainly for making Mani and Reni sound rubbish.

 

Yeah am not into the production either, almost said just after listening to the new one. I can't remember hearing much bass (have only listened to it a couple of times), but the drums sounded off and really heavy in the mix for a Roses tune.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I've had a listen on my fancy new sound system and have decided that they need to sack the producer, mainly for making Mani and Reni sound rubbish.

Said that after the first one. He's produced Adele. He has no idea how to work with the sound of proper bands who make their own music.

 

Great work with Adele, no doubt. But this? Nah, ruined it quite a bit for me.

[Total Longo]

I think this song gets worse with each listen. i liked it at first but it's actually quite bland and sounds like an Ian Brown cast off. Irritating that John Squire's solo threatens to go somewhere special and then just gets reined in.

[Red_or_Dead]

A mate of mine who's a record producer has been told that Reni hasn't been at these sessions.  It'd make sense with the drums sounding shite on both of these tracks.

[Mook]

A mate of mine who's a record producer has been told that Reni hasn't been at these sessions.  It'd make sense with the drums sounding shite on both of these tracks.

 

That wouldn't surprise me, he stopped playing for a few years as far as I'm aware before the reunion & having watched him since on Youtube, I don't think he's as good as he used to be (although still pretty fucking good). All for One could've been anyone on drums & this newer track sounds like a loop to me & not a great one either.

 

One thing that contradicts this is that Reni has a writing credit on the new track, maybe that's part of the deal though, I'm not sure his heart is in it. Personally I wish they'd packed it in for good when Reni left in '95.

[Total Longo]

That wouldn't surprise me, he stopped playing for a few years as far as I'm aware before the reunion & having watched him since on Youtube, I don't think he's as good as he used to be (although still pretty fucking good). All for One could've been anyone on drums & this newer track sounds like a loop to me & not a great one either.

 

One thing that contradicts this is that Reni has a writing credit on the new track, maybe that's part of the deal though, I'm not sure his heart is in it. Personally I wish they'd packed it in for good when Reni left in '95.

 

 

Definitely starting to agree with that statement. 

[Ian Sea]

Reni broke his ribs and was ordered to rest for a month which may explain any absence. They had to cancel a couple of gigs in Japan because of it.

[Juniper]

No I think it's him, has the same feel and some drum fills that sound like him on the 1st song.

 

He was always a feel drummer anyway (a bloody good one at that)

[Sugar Ape]

Playlist from the Etihad last night.

 

 

1. I Wanna Be Adored
    
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2. Elephant Stone
    
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3. Sally Cinnamon
    
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4. Mersey Paradise
    
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5. (Song for My) Sugar Spun Sister
    
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6. Bye Bye Badman
    
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7. Where Angels Play
    
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8. Shoot You Down
    
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9. Begging You
    
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10. Waterfall
     
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11. Don't Stop
     
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12. Elizabeth My Dear
     
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13. Fools Gold
     
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14. All for One
     
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15. Love Spreads
     
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16. Made of Stone
     
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17. She Bangs the Drums
     
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18. Breaking into Heaven
     
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19. This Is the One
     
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20. I Am the Resurrection

[Sugar Ape]

Also noticed this. Not on stage until 9pm. 

 

7.45pm - Public Enemy

9pm - The Stone Roses

11pm - curfew

[Skidfingers McGonical]

[Scott_M]

God Brown sounds awful there. I know he's not the greatest singer but he's been a professional for the best part of 30 years, I'd expect better than that.

[cloggypop]

The crowd usually sings for him.

[Mook]

John Leckie & Simon Dawson managed to get Ian Brown to sound ok in the studio but other than that, he's always been awful, I can't listen to his solo stuff because the singing is garbage on it, all of it. I see people online kidding themselves on that it's great but it's just not, especially after having listened to artists who can sing a bit.

 

I actually watched a bit of the Blackpool '89 gig on dvd a couple of weeks back & had to turn it off after a couple of songs because of him, he certainly had a bit of stage presence in those days but he's a middle aged man now & I don't think his stage presence cuts it anymore. I'm really pleased for fans who get to go & see their reunion gigs & have the time of their life but I'll be fucked if I'm paying £60 to go & listen to that.

[cloggypop]

It's probably worth 60 quid when you get Buzzcocks, Coral and Public Enemy as well.

 

I'd be well pissed off if I got The Courteeners night though.

[Mook]

It's probably worth 60 quid when you get Buzzcocks, Coral and Public Enemy as well.

 

I'd be well pissed off if I got The Courteeners night though.

 

I wouldn't pay £10 to go & watch any of them, I used to love Public Enemy as a kid but haven't listened to any hip hop since the mid 90s.

 

I do have a lot of time for Chuck D though.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Public Enemy are worth the entrance fee alone.

[thegreatelephant]

leaving all chin-stroking and over-analysis aside which is for others clearly more qualified, go mainly for the day out these days for a change of scenery, few beers and a few laughs. pulled at Heaton Park so you never know there also. never been to the Etihad either so thought i'd check it out.

 

didn't go with high expectations last time and won't this- was pleasantly surprised before so if that pans out, great.

 

pity the day I could go up didn't have the Friday line-up as that is spot-on. although don't think i'd want to spend hours on end in there. happy to see PE though again, i always get their new releases on vinyl- and they are always solid. short set will just be the hits though i suppose- 25 years plus since I first saw them. true legends.

 

PiL tomorrow starts an action-packed weekend paid for courtesy of unmentionable results.

[DPW]

Going tonight. On my birthday. Hope they play all of Second Coming for a big treat. Can't wait.

[Sugar Ape]

Voice has gone. Brilliant.

[manwiththestick]

He never had a voice to start with...

[slimjim75]

Anyone after 2 tickets for tonight. Seating.