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  1. Ok fair enough In the other Elliot thread you said "I'm clearly watching the wrong sport" I ignored it because it's a forum and everyone Is allowed an opinion. So I respected yours. But what I will say is, I've played competitive 11 a side football for 20+ years. I've done my coaching badges to a decent level. I've managed and coached sides and won around 50 trophies including multiple player of the seasons, manager of the season etc. I have friends, who I played with regularly, become professional footballers and play in the premier League. I have friends who played in the championship and captained their sides at Anfield. I still play until this day and there are quite a few ex premier league footballers in my league. I've been around professional footballers my whole life, played with and against them. I know how good you have to be to make it to the very top and stay there. Elliot misses alot of things elite players should see and do. If you're that small you better be fucking quick or have outstanding technique/vision/passing. He doesn't. He has good technique but he doesn't see or execute the things a player at the very top needs to stay there. His passing is ok/average. He's a decent player and saying he's championship level or lower premier league level is not a put down. It's just what he is. It's pretty obvious too. Stacks saying Klopp has played a championship u20 player for many seasons is a null point. Klopp is a fucking one off, no other manager in the world gives what he gives to players. He backs them, develops them, gives them confidence and plays them even if they make loads of mistakes. His stature in the game means he gets no criticism for it. And rightly so. He's earned his stripes both on and off the field. He also rarely sells the players he buys and replaces them with someone else (after 1 or 2 seasons). How many other managers are like that? Do people really think the next manager is going to do the same? He might want to but he'll be under more pressure to win and succeed and that's the moment he'll sell some players and buy better ones. That's what the top 10 clubs in the world do. It's why you have to be so good to stay there. Elliot isn't and I'd be shocked if he ever will be because he has so much going against him. Height, speed, power, one footed, passing, heading, tackling... he's lacking all those things. He played very well in the City game and was our best player in the first half when everyone else was shit pretty much. His work rate is great but it should be a given. Sure he's scored goals but assists mean less in todays game. He rolled the ball to Nunez who banged one in from 25 yards once. It's hardly a defence splitting pass. But he got an assist for it. Fair enough about Carvalho that's a good point but largely Klopp doesn't get rid. That's why so many players leave on a free. Disagree about his pressing, he tries for sure, and it's probably why Klopps kept faith. But he can't actually tackle anyone. He can't intercept, his legs are too small! He often sells himself too, he's actually really easy to beat and play around if you watch him when he presses. He'll never reach Bernardo Silva's level. Because Bernardo can actually beat players and go past them. Elliot can't. His technique is elite level and he never loses the ball. He's also much quicker than he looks. Anyway let's see, I genuinely hope I'm wrong about Elliot because every club needs a good squad and players with the right attitude, he definitely has that. But I think he'll be one of the first few to go under a new manager and it won't be to another top 10 club in the world. And it won't be to a top 6 club in the premier league.
  2. He's not. The championship is his level, maybe at a stretch a lower league premiership player but I'm probably being kind there. What has he shown since his injury that he's a top level player that can be a starter for one of the biggest clubs in the world? Even as a squad player he doesn't do much, either as a starter or as a sub. I don't want to shit on him, he clearly gets what it means to play for Liverpool. He tries his heart out but most of us would. But he has no right foot, no pace, little physicality, can't win a header, his pressing is weak and he can't tackle. Where does that leave him? He certainly isn't a forward in the front 3. He just cuts back inside and plays the easy option 90% of the time. And he can't play in the midfield for the reasons above. He'll be sold by the next manager within 2 seasons, I'd be shocked if he stays. He might have 100 games but Klopp never shits on his own signings. We saw that with Kieta. He plays them and gives them time (far too much time sometimes) to improve. If Jones, Bajtetic and Thiago were fit I doubt he'd be getting as much game time either.
  3. Not for me either. He's a championship level player living the dream. Having a good attitude and work rate shouldn't even be in the discussion to play for Liverpool.
  4. I agree with you there These cunts mostly turn up against us. I'm actually glad this one is away, because they parked the fucking bus at Anfield. At least they'll have to come out a bit and play at the old toilet. But our defence is much better with Bradley at right back, they won't be able to play their shitty diagonals to get up the pitch on the counter. We'll win 3-1.
  5. Be more aware 7-0 5-0 4-0 All under Klopp Don't forget a single beating we've handed out to them. They wouldn't.
  6. They are a system team. When they aren't allowed to play their pretty patterns it will effect their psychology more than giving them a lift. Scraping through past a shit Porto isn't going to boost them. They have more chance of winning the league than they do winning the champions league. City and Madrid will destroy them. Even if they do win the champions league, so what, it'll be their first and doesn't effect us at all. This is our big chance to win the league with the best manager in the world leaving in a few months. We need every edge we can get and we need city and Arsenals focus to be on other things.
  7. You really think they are going to get a boost from that performance? They'll have known the score whenever Liverpool played Porto with the same manager and 41 year old Pepe in defence. We destroyed them. That's twice in a week they've played shit now. They weren't allowed to play at all and do their thing. That will be in the back of their minds. Did you really want them to only have one game a week in a title run in with a full strength squad? We absolutely needed them to get through to have more games, more fatigue and possible injuries. Not to mention how European football can drain you. I'm glad they got through, hopefully they get through to the semi's.
  8. Nah I disagree. We saw what Arsenal are all about today, it's ok spanking shit teams when the pressure is off but as soon as they knew they could go top with a big clash tomorrow they immediately felt the pressure and didn't play well. I'm not dismissing them here, they are a good side. But they have City, Spurs and United away. Plus Villa and Chelsea. On today's showing they are going to drop a fair few points in those games.
  9. Walker did an interview with Ferdinand today and said people have been talking about it on the training ground. They are going to try and use it to galvanise them. Inferiority complexed little twats. Media spun this and they have fallen for it. Walker also said "I've never won at Anfield" not with any team he's ever played for. You could see he's trying to use this to pump him up and how he's going to change that statistic. Otherwise he'd never have mentioned it. We'll win, I'm sure of it. I thought we'd win before anyway. But they are going to come here chests pumped and that's the wrong way. They aren't playing well enough and as soon as we hit them once or twice with a fast counter all that bravado will crumble. This City team concedes way more chances than previous ones. Guardiola football is built on control and shit teams barely get in their half. But Chelsea and United got at them with a few passes through the middle before a direct ball into the pacey forwards. We have enough bollocks to be brave enough on the ball to do that and more. They are pure system players. Once that system is being broken in to, they won't know how to react to the emotion of our fans, manager and team. We win 3-1.
  10. I must be missing something you're all seeing. Sure he works hard, I'm not denying that and his energy levels have been extremely impressive these last 4 games where he's played almost every minute. But, is he really good? Like why do some of you rate him so much? What are you seeing that I'm not? I see a player with no pace, who very rarely makes an interception /tackle because he over compensates and then gets easily beat. He loses the ball a shit ton, his passing is often backwards and the easy option. Sure he looks busy and clearly playing for the shirt matters to him but do you all think he'll be here for years after Klopp goes? Is he really in the top 0.00001% to play regularly for one if the biggest clubs in the world? I just don't see it, hope I'm wrong but I'd be suprised if he lasts more than 2 years after Klopp goes.
  11. Tbf Vlad you haven't really offered any kind of expert insight into why you think what he said is a load of rubbish All you've said is the manager thinks he's good enough and we are doing well. Of course Klopp is going to play him, he bought him, and in the last 8 years we've seen Klopp stand by everyone of his signings. Even with Kieta and most if us thought he was shit but he constantly got minutes. I think Red74 is right, Gakpo does struggle with his back to goal. It's an expert position to play and requires a certain skill set. I know I always struggled playing that position when I played too. It's hard when you've played your whole life facing the play. But I do think Gakpo is a good player, he has played a huge amount of minutes these last 3 games and he look burnt on Saturday. He's also out of form + playing a position that isn't natural for him. Let's not forget he has no pace on his right (Elliot) and Diaz on his left (who nobody knows what he's really going to do with the ball) so linking up isn't easy right now. Plus all our problems in midfield recently. It's unfair to be overly critical of anybody at the moment, we are never going to be fluid and open up teams easily. We just need to grind out results and win battles, Gakpo has been a part of that.
  12. I'll offer you an explanation Lovebite Konate head injury, play was stopped for 20 secs. Additional time required. Gibbs-White time wasted at a corner, yellow card given, additional time required. Another twat, I can't remember his name, also wasted time, yellow card given, additional time required. So there you have it, suck a lemon and you'll be shitting it coming to Anfield next week so stop giving it then big-un 8 days before kick off. Dickhead.
  13. Who cares. If you don't support Liverpool fuck off to another forum. That win though. Dagger blow to our rivals, this one hurt them badly. Don't be fooled, City players and Arsenal players all have dodgy firesticks and they were all watching that. Fully invested, counting down the minutes, deducting the points, looking at our next fixtures and starting to believe. This win will be a hammer blow. Get the fuck in.
  14. I don't really look at form or teams with these kind of fixtures Will Nuno Espirito Santo beat Jürgen Klopp? No. He won't. We'll win, not sure on the score but fuck that anyway, who cares. Our manager will out think their manager. He has done tons of times already. Don't sweat it. Liverpool win.
  15. We'd be mad to sell any senior players on the back of Klopp and his staff going. You need leaders in the dressing room and experience of success. The next manager needs these guys around to make it as smooth as possible. Van Dijk, Trent, Robertson, Alisson, Gomez should all be top priorities to keep at the club. I'd even say Salah should now stay but I think they'll cash in and maybe he wants to go anyway. The next managers job is going to be hard enough as it is, replacing Klopp, selling any of these players will only make it 1000 times harder.
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