"He's having a holocaust"

[Fugitive]

It could have been much worse for Arsenal had a few of the Manc players not run out of gas towards the end.

[moof]

It was a fucking daft thing to say, much like nearly everything else he says.

 

He shouldn't be on the telly because he's a shite pundit not because of this.

 

I agree with this. Should never be hired in the first place.

[Red Phoenix]

It's hard to understand why anyone would say such a stupid comment, (never even heard anything like it before, how and why the fuck would you come up with something like that?) never mind a pundit on the tv.

[silverlining]

There's no debate or argument here.

 

All Cascarino has to do is produce an English Collins Dictionary and point to the definition of "holocaust" in it.

 

Then everyone - including the Jews - can go and fuck themselves.

[Pidge]

My money is on three posts until the next irrelevant definition of the word is posted.

 

If there is an angry mob, it isn't on here. If there's moral outrage, I'm yet to see it on here. Most people seem to just be of the opinion that it was a fucking stupid thing to say, which it was.

[Gym Beglin]

He's having a potato famine.

[Strontium]

There's no debate or argument here.

 

All Cascarino has to do is produce an English Collins Dictionary and point to the definition of "holocaust" in it.

 

Then everyone - including the Jews - can go and fuck themselves.

 

 

[silverlining]

He's having a potato famine.

 

You're quite stupid. You prove it regularly.

 

Equating "potato famine" as a pejorative term with "holocaust", is simply more evidence of that.

 

You're about a tenth as clever as you think you are, and half as shocking.

In many ways, you're a bit like a really shit, fucking retarded version of me, and that doesn't reflect well on either of us, you cunt.

[Red Phoenix]

In many ways, you're a bit like a really shit, fucking retarded version of me, and that doesn't reflect well on either of us, you cunt.

 

Hahah!

[Strontium]

The Jews just decided to call what Adolf did 'The Holocaust' but don't let that spoil anyones moral outrage.

 

 

Actually the Jews call it "Shoah", precisely because the term "Holocaust" is vague and generic.

[silverlining]

 

See definition 1.

 

I'd be right on his case if he'd said, I dunno:

 

"he needs to be sent to the gas chamber for that performance"

or:

 

"I don't know if Jenkinson at RB is Wenger's Final Solution"

 

But the use of the term "holocaust" I will defend until the end of time.

 

Jews are so touchy.

[silverlining]

Actually the Jews call it "Shoah", precisely because the term "Holocaust" is vague and generic.

 

Shoah nuff

[jsjazz]

Don't see what the fuss is about myself. It seems that use of the word "holocaust" or "nazi" is now a sackable offence- bizarre. Fair enough, if he'd said it with regards to a jewish person it might be deemed offensive, but in this case it seems to have nothing to do with Jews. Perhaps these words should be removed from the dictionary and people should have to apply for a special permit from the Ministry of Special Words to use them?

[moof]

Don't see what the fuss is about myself. It seems that use of the word "holocaust" or "nazi" is now a sackable offence- bizarre. Fair enough, if he'd said it with regards to a jewish person it might be deemed offensive, but in this case it seems to have nothing to do with Jews. Perhaps these words should be removed from the dictionary and people should have to apply for a special permit from the Ministry of Special Words to use them?

 

Likening a football performance to mass genocide is not cool mmkay?

[silverlining]

Had he said this on German TV his career would have been over in the same second. Literally. And quite deservedly.

 

You're possibly dim enough to not enjoy the delicious irony of your post.

 

I say "possibly".

 

Definitely. Certainly. Obviously. Indubitably.

 

All better, more apposite words.

[Chocoholic]

He's having a potato famine.

 

He was talking about Traore at Arsenal, not Spud at Fulham.

[silverlining]

Likening a football performance to mass genocide is not cool mmkay?

 

"Josemi got fucking Rwanda'ed there"

 

"Pennant's had a total Kristallnacht, lid"

[Funkasy]

Stupid thing to say, but its nothing to go crazy about.

[lifetime fan]

In many ways, you're a bit like a really shit, fucking retarded version of me, and that doesn't reflect well on either of us, you cunt.

 

Hahah!

 

That is right up their with the wheelie bin, fucking Wigan insult.

 

Class.

[jsjazz]

Likening a football performance to mass genocide is not cool mmkay?

 

So lets take the word holocaust out of the dictionary, right? Because there can only be "The Holocaust", not a holocaust.

Incidentally, can you suggest another use of the word holocaust other than when referring to The Holocaust that would be acceptable in your eyes? I read a fiction novel the other day where the word holocaust was used in reference to an explosion followed by burning- do you think this book should be banned and all copies burned?

I don't believe Cascarino (even if he is a dick) meant it in terms of the murder of millions of Jews. I just think people are getting hypersensitive about it. As I said, if he'd said it about someone with Jewish connections or even about Spurs with their Jewish links I could see why people might be upset. This is not the case here; it just seems the word holocaust can no longer be used.

[Iceman]

You're possibly dim enough to not enjoy the delicious irony of your post.

 

I say "possibly".

 

Definitely. Certainly. Obviously. Indubitably.

 

All better, more apposite words.

 

[Anubis]

Cascarino is behind the times. Everyone knows that any derivative of frimpong is the way forward.

[bobhorse]

It's the equivalent of saying something like "a 'hillsborough' of a performance." In 2050

 

It's very insensitive and tactless. I don't think he meant to cause offence but he likened a shoddy defensive display to the holocust.

 

HOLOCAUST for fucks sake!!

 

But that is just it it is nothing like that people think that the word means the Nazis extermination of the Jews

but i would suggest that people look for the definition of the word Holocaust it's like saying genocide it is a descriptive word for an act and isnt just owned by what happened between 1939 - 1945 in Europe

 

The man is a tit what he said made not much sense it was as if he was looking for another word instead of nightmare that would imply much worse than that but as i say he is a tit and chose the wrong one and that is it forget it and move on let the Mary Whitehouse brigade do there own thing but he shouldnt lose his job over something like this

 

It would be only like your example if he used terms like Auschwitz or Trablinka of a game and then he would be guilty of what people are accusing him of

[Major Tom]

Gotta love the folk deeming 'holocaust' an applicable adjective when describing a right back.

 

They are just so controversial. Living right on the edge, them.

[setreal]

You're possibly dim enough to not enjoy the delicious irony of your post.

 

I say "possibly".

 

Definitely. Certainly. Obviously. Indubitably.

 

All better, more apposite words.

 

Cool beans.

 

I am sure you are an expert of the hegemonic discourse in Germany concerning the Holocaust and how to deal with its memory. Like that time when you claimed to know a lot about newspapers and publishing. And then I showed in a few sentences that you did not know a lot.

 

I say "not a lot".

 

Fuck all, nada, zilch, nuffinks would probably be closer to what I mean. But then again English is only my secondary language.