Summer 2023 Transfer Thread

[redrosetints]

18 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

For what it’s worth this was my mate this morning. 
 

Chelsea knew of our interest but then they  also knew every club in the top half of the league had spoken with his agents, they didn’t think our interest serious and as such have been dragging this out. 
 

Player has got frustrated after he’d given his word at the length of time it’s taken to get done. Especially having done everything he can behind the scenes to hurry this up was feeling let down by promises made not materialising yet. 
 

The big guy (Boehly) is a law unto himself, they expect Chelsea to match our offer knowing they’ve offered the player approx £220k a week and let the player decide. 

 

”If this doesn’t go through I guarantee there’ll be articles in the press trying to blame Pochettino for it not going through. 
 

I’d still say it’s 50/50”. 

You say Caicedo is frustrated, but is he frustrated enough to agree terms with us ? Sky said in the it transfer show that personal terms agreed but not seen that anywhere else ?

[Barrington Womble]

it's got to be said I am still expecting this to go tits up. my first reaction to this was "doesn't the player have a say in this?". the whole auction thing didn't add up. i will only believe it is sorted when we see him doing the old lean holding up the new road end stand. 

[CapeRed]

19 minutes ago, lifetime fan said:

For what it’s worth this was my mate this morning. 
 

Chelsea knew of our interest but then they  also knew every club in the top half of the league had spoken with his agents, they didn’t think our interest serious and as such have been dragging this out. 
 

Player has got frustrated after he’d given his word at the length of time it’s taken to get done. Especially having done everything he can behind the scenes to hurry this up was feeling let down by promises made not materialising yet. 
 

The big guy (Boehly) is a law unto himself, they expect Chelsea to match our offer knowing they’ve offered the player approx £220k a week and let the player decide. 

 

”If this doesn’t go through I guarantee there’ll be articles in the press trying to blame Pochettino for it not going through. 
 

I’d still say it’s 50/50”. 

FWIW I believe Brighton prefer dealing with us and will tell Todd to fuck off.

[Barrington Womble]

2 minutes ago, redrosetints said:

You say Caicedo is frustrated, but is he frustrated enough to agree terms with us ? Sky said in the it transfer show that personal terms agreed but not seen that anywhere else ?

ornstien suggested terms were a formality. 

[JohnnyH]

FWIW GID ASAP TVM

[Em City]

If it really was an auction, going by basic principles of contract law, we have formed the agreement with Brighton and there's not anything Chelsea can do. 

 

Obviously that will be different in this scenario if Caicedo says no to us and that he only wants to go to Chelsea.

[BeefStroganoff]

4 minutes ago, redrosetints said:

You say Caicedo is frustrated, but is he frustrated enough to agree terms with us ? Sky said in the it transfer show that personal terms agreed but not seen that anywhere else ?

Didn’t the Ecuador national team Twitter post you’ll never walk alone?

[El Rojo]

Just now, BeefStroganoff said:

Didn’t the Ecuador national team Twitter post you’ll never walk alone?

 

Haha! Can imagine the reaction of Chelsea fans to that. 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Have to still expect Boehly to at least match our offer and maybe go bigger with wages. Guess it all hinges on Brighton; if they abide by their supposed deadline then it's done, he either moves to us or stays put. 

 

Hard to know how pissed off Brighton are with Chelsea for drawing this out. 

[CapeRed]

1 minute ago, BeefStroganoff said:

Didn’t the Ecuador national team Twitter post you’ll never walk alone?

They did

[Megadrive Man]

The problem we have now is that if we don't get him, every single club is going to massively bump the price up for the next player we approach.

 

It looks like Klopp is getting his wish about taking a risk!

[Scott_M]

Urgh, I was hoping he’d piss off. 

[Dave D]

Maybe he's demanding a play off for his services- this Sunday, winner takes all 

[3 Stacks]

4 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Have to still expect Boehly to at least match our offer and maybe go bigger with wages. Guess it all hinges on Brighton; if they abide by their supposed deadline then it's done, he either moves to us or stays put. 

 

Hard to know how pissed off Brighton are with Chelsea for drawing this out. 

Yeah, if Brighton fuck us, this is over. If Chelsea offer more than we do, what is their incentive to turn that down, their word that it was midnight auction?

[lifetime fan]

12 minutes ago, redrosetints said:

You say Caicedo is frustrated, but is he frustrated enough to agree terms with us ? Sky said in the it transfer show that personal terms agreed but not seen that anywhere else ?

I have no idea. The info I got came from the Chelsea side not us. 

[Scott_M]

I’ll feel a lot better when I see pictures of Caicedo from a distance, getting out a MPV at Kirkby and dashing into the AXA. 

[Barrington Womble]

11 minutes ago, Em City said:

If it really was an auction, going by basic principles of contract law, we have formed the agreement with Brighton and there's not anything Chelsea can do. 

 

Obviously that will be different in this scenario if Caicedo says no to us and that he only wants to go to Chelsea.

i think that could be the fly in the ointment. i got a news flash on my phone before saying klopp had said he doesn't know if the player wants to join us, but i can't see that mentioned in the echo live update of the press conference. 

[joe_fishfish]

57 minutes ago, Colonel Bumcunt said:

Saints forum suggesting Brighton might go for Lavia. 

So next summer we can pay £150m for him? Excellent news.

[an tha]

Naturally the snide bastards in the media have been all over Klopp's comments about paying big money in past.

 

It was on bbc site early this morning for example 'it will be interesting to hear what Klopp has to say now after what he said about kids wanting xmas presents' blah blah blah.

 

Well here is what he did say on matter:

 

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp on spending over £100m on a player: "Everything changed. Do I like it? No. Did I realise I was wrong? Yes.

"I'm not blaming anyone but it's just the market.

"In the end, we as a club have to make sure that, with our resources, we get the best possible player.

"We aren't in a dreamland and can't just point at a player and get them to come in. Sometimes one door closes and another opens up."

[Babb'sBurstNad]

4 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

Yeah, if Brighton fuck us, this is over. If Chelsea offer more than we do, what is their incentive to turn that down, their word that it was midnight auction?

 

I would assume Brighton's incentive is to set the bar for all future dealings. They know they're a club that'll lose players, top clubs will circle them and try to convince a target to come to them and them only, then try lowering the price. It seems that's what Chelsea were leveraging here, the same as us with Southampton (amongst others).

 

They'd be turning down money in the short term, in the hope it'd ensure future deals aren't as protracted. Let's face it, if Chelsea wanted a player from Brighton tomorrow, do you think they'd take their sweet time again haggling?

 

The worry is, Brighton don't need to go through with it to have made their point. The only thing really going in our favour is, if they go back on their word of a deadline, it'll be harder to convince alternate parties to come to the table in future.

 

Bit of brinkmanship, bit of game theory going on. Interesting.

[Juniper]

20 hours ago, Juniper said:

Just don’t do it to yourselves, we’re not going to sign Caicedo

Erm ok then, maybe we will! 

[El Dangerous]

Reckon he plays the first half for us on Sunday has a stinker comes out for the second half does a DX suck it on the centre circle rips off his Liverpool top to reveal the Chelsea blue and has a worldie against us. Probably worst case scenario, £100m down the drain and down to 10 men.

[Tenfolder]

23 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

The problem we have now is that if we don't get him, every single club is going to massively bump the price up for the next player we approach.

 

It looks like Klopp is getting his wish about taking a risk!

 

Yup, thats the downside of this one, it falls through then every dickhead around is upping their valuation for any player we bid for.

[The Golden Eel]

25 minutes ago, CapeRed said:

They did

Terrible news about Sheffield United 

[Moo]

26 minutes ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

Have to still expect Boehly to at least match our offer and maybe go bigger with wages. Guess it all hinges on Brighton; if they abide by their supposed deadline then it's done, he either moves to us or stays put. 

 

Hard to know how pissed off Brighton are with Chelsea for drawing this out. 

 

They won't be pissed off enough to refuse their money if the player stands his ground and only wants Chelsea.