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I meant to say "significantly reduces" as per my earlier post. I have now corrected it, the point stands.

Sorry, wrong choice of words, I should have said "significantly reduces" as I did in my earlier post.

Don't be ridiculous. If we were told it significantly reduces transmission but then told it doesn't, in what's likely to become the dominant strain in the UK, that is disappointing whichever way you slice it. Wasn't it also suggested that continued transmission amongst a vaccinated population is how it would mutate into a vaccine resistant strain? I recall reading that but would very happily be corrected.

Hopefully you're right, I've read that there's not enough evidence either way. However there is some evidence that people are still catching the Indian variant even if vaccinated which is disappointing as previous to this were being told that there was mounting evidence that the vaccine significantly reduces transmission, which doesn't appear to be the case with this variant. Would that have some impact on mutations I wonder?

I might be misreading this but are you suggesting it's not a genuine concern?

Marina Hyde's Guardian column today on Cameron's Greensill hearing, I've not read the whole column, just the opening paragraph on Twitter and it's a cracker: "Hauled before two select committees to answer for his Greensill lobbying role, David Cameron yesterday claimed his text to the treasury asking for a “rate cut” might in fact have meant to say “VAT cut”. As the former prime minister put it: “I think I’m a victim of spellcheck here.” A what now? Still, you’ll have nothing but respect for this excuse, which is basically: “I fear that I, a standup guy, have been autocorrected into a complete chancer.” And yet … on which phone software does VAT autocorrect to rate? I’m afraid I found it rather difficult to watch this section of the hearings and not think: can you ducking believe this aunt." Brilliant stuff.

He fucking did and all, his body language was shocking.

Hilarious.

One of the issues is that some of them refuse to be informed, countless times I've tried to have a discussion on a certain aspect of politics (Brexit being the main one) but just been shut down by some sound bite. You get to the point where there's nothing left to do but insult them in frustration. People are making a choice to be misinformed, those people are cunts.

Why is it hilarious? Every story above SNP/Independence/Johnson is about Labour in-fighting/manoeuvres. Clearly Labour have knocked that story off the top of the headlines, why is that hilarious?

It may have got the same reaction perhaps, I disagree, but would not have knocked today's major story of the break up of the Union thanks to the Tories down the pecking order. Do you think Labour should be the story today, or Scottish Independence on Johnson's watch? The latter, much bigger story (and hugely damaging to the Tories) has been pushed down the headlines to 3rd, 4th, 5th on the major outlets - all of them with Labour in-fighting taking up every slot above. Scotland would have been the top headline news for days, now it won't be. Suggesting that this isn't a massive own goal doesn't make it so.

It looks weak because the timing is transparent and is to appear decisive and strong, to many it has done the opposite And, or 4) Wait a couple of weeks, don't make the headlines about Labour in-fighting yet again allowing the likely break up of the UK, thanks to the Tories, to fall off the top of the news A massive own goal.

And as mentioned yesterday this was as much about timing as personnel. Still pathetic, weak, and pandering.

Not really no, you could have been talking about the loyalty of any politician and it would have pissed me off. I'm sick of reading about loyalty to the party leader (of any shade) - this should not be a thing but it has become so. No MP should have loyalty to the leader, only to the general cause/principles/main policies, and most of all to their constituents. As long as you're not actively undermining the leader then fuck loyalty to him/her/them.

She can call herself what she wants I suppose, though they have agreed to not use Royal Highness. Anything that pisses off the dickheads all the better.

How can I watch this in the UK?

Are you going to be specific, or was it just a needless comment?

No loyalty to whom?

Do you know what, even if Starmer has a legitimate reason for "sacking" Rayner (if that's what it is) he didn't have to do it so soon, did he? Knowing the attention it would get at the moment, it just looks knee-jerk, pandering, and smacks of trying to assert his authority after humiliating defeat. It's so transparent, it makes him look weak, his head's gone.

Is Starmer one of those cunts?

There are many things that the "metropolitan woke educated demographic" and traditional Labor voters/working class agree on. Labour needs to take some time to work out what these are, find a leader that agrees, and focus on them. Four or five key policies and hammer them home: Tax avoidance The working poor Child poverty Housing Environment, clean safe spaces

Ordinarily I'd agree but I think this underestimates the popularity of Johnson. So much depends on them ousting him and who his replacement is.

No idea. When I say get back to basics I don't necessarily mean go back to their roots. They need to put aside side issues for now and decide what they stand for and will stand on, then choose a leader according to that. They need to use this time productively, see it as an opportunity, strip all the crap away and start again. p.s. this optimism only extends while Scotland are in, if Scotland goes it's Tories, or a version of, in perpetuity. Thanks Brexit.

I agree but Starmer is not the answer, he's terrible. Labour need to keep their heads down for a few months, nothing knee jerk, then go about replacing Starmer and getting back to basics with a convincing leader who can sell those ideals. There will always be one massive barrier though, the right wing media.

It's not a wart it's a white mole. Would it bother you so much if it was a dark mole? i.e. previously known as a "beauty spot" just like Marilyn's. Kate Winslet is still gorgeous.