Middle Class Generalisation Thread

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Wavertree gardens has been knocked down

 

Edit: no it hasn't sorry!

I know it hasn't.

[VladimirIlyich]

Apologies, had it in my head that you'd moved to the Land of Wool. Possibly I'd mixed you up with another S-named poster like Stronts or Stig. It's so hard to tell you chaps apart

Woolist.

[PestiRed]

Woolist.

All you English look the same to me

[Paulie Dangerously]

You're middle class if you can literally get away with stabbing someone in the leg and breaking your bail conditions by getting in touch with the person you stabbed.  Additional Conditions: Be attractive and in Oxford University

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lavinia-woodward-oxford-student-prison-jail-extraordinary-talent-10-months-suspended-sentence-stab-a7966486.html

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

You're middle class if you can literally get away with stabbing someone in the leg and breaking your bail conditions by getting in touch with the person you stabbed.  Additional Conditions: Be attractive and in Oxford University

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lavinia-woodward-oxford-student-prison-jail-extraordinary-talent-10-months-suspended-sentence-stab-a7966486.html

 

Would

[Paulie Dangerously]

Would

Obviously but she's still a crim

[Rico1304]

You're middle class if you can literally get away with stabbing someone in the leg and breaking your bail conditions by getting in touch with the person you stabbed.  Additional Conditions: Be attractive and in Oxford University

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lavinia-woodward-oxford-student-prison-jail-extraordinary-talent-10-months-suspended-sentence-stab-a7966486.html

Or...

 

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/09/26/update-an-oxford-medical-student-stabbed-her-boyfriend-with-a-bread-knife-so-why-did-she-not-go-to-prison/amp/

[Evelyn Tentions]

You're middle class if you can literally get away with stabbing someone in the leg and breaking your bail conditions by getting in touch with the person you stabbed.  Additional Conditions: Be attractive and in Oxford University

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lavinia-woodward-oxford-student-prison-jail-extraordinary-talent-10-months-suspended-sentence-stab-a7966486.html

 

 

Would

You'd need to have full body kevlar condoms though if she's been on the toot.

[Paulie Dangerously]

Or...

 

https://thesecretbarrister.com/2017/09/26/update-an-oxford-medical-student-stabbed-her-boyfriend-with-a-bread-knife-so-why-did-she-not-go-to-prison/amp/

 

From the comments re: the Mitigating circumstances

 

 

 

When I turn to look, however, for mitigating features the picture is very different. There are many mitigating features in your case. Principally, at the age of 24 you have no previous convictions of any nature whatsoever. Secondly, I find that you were genuinely remorseful following this event and, indeed, although it was against your bail conditions you contacted your partner to fully confess your guilt and your deep sorrow for what happened. Thirdly, whilst you are clearly a highly intelligent individual, you had an immaturity about you which was not commensurate for someone of your age. Fourthly, as the reports from the experts make clear, you suffer from an emotionally unstable personality disorder, a severe eating disorder and alcohol drug dependence. Finally, and most significantly, you have demonstrated over the last nine months that you are determined to rid yourself of your alcohol/drug addiction and have undergone extensive treatment including counselling to address the many issues that you face. In particular, you have demonstrated to me since I adjourned this matter in May a strong and unwavering determination so to do despite the enormous pressure under which you were put and which has been referred to by your learned counsel.

 

I honestly don't think any of the above would've prevented someone on my street getting sent to jail in a similar.  Personality disorder, Substance abuse and being very sorry and want to change y'honour?  Nope, not having it. 

 

 

 

Indeed, this further colour, in particular the mental health dimension, shifts the perspective significantly. It’s not just a rich white girl getting a let-off; it’s also a victim of domestic violence with severe mental health and substance misuse problems being given a chance to rebuild her life. You may not care for that latter interpretation, but it’s no less valid than the former preferred by today’s front page “Toff Justice” tabloid headlines, implicitly recycling the nasty myth that money confers mental health immunity.

 

Fully agree with the sentiment of the highlighted piece above but if it's not applied to everyone in the same boat it's clear bias. 

 

Good little website that though Rico and one I'll be keeping an eye on when controversial stories break. 

[Sputnik1]

Less about her class and more about her gender I feel.

[lifetime fan]

Change the accused to a young black male and he's doing serious time.

[VladimirIlyich]

Change the accused to a young black male and he's doing serious time.

Yep. Probably applies to 90% of the population from poorer areas too.

[Pureblood]

Obviously but she's still a crim

 

She pleaded guilty so yes she is.

[Strontium]

It really depends on whether you think the justice system should be about punishing people every time they make an error, or whether you think they should get another chance if they show they are willing to address their human shortcomings.

[Section_31]

She's lovely. I'd like to burst her brown star while playing inspector Morse music.

[Ginny]

(1) If you go to visit someone on a middle class estate, 10 minutes into the visit one of the other residents on the road (not necessarily a direct neighbour) will knock and ask  them if they know whose car it is. 70% of the time they will then ask you to move it, even if it's not in their way, just because they feel they can as they own their house. Reasons for asking you to move it can be tenuous at best, such as the fact they have a brother in Dumfries who occasionally drops in once a year and today might be the day. 

 

 

(2) Boys and girls look the same until the age of around 10. With hair like Luke Skywalker and waterproof cagoules. They also tend to have asexual toys, neither guns and cars nor dolls, but instead things like colouring 'stations' and easels. 

 

(3) When they eat out as a family, there is a chasm between the quality and cost of the parents' meals and the kids' meals. Mum and dad get T-Bone steak, the kids share a bowl of carrots, however, they do get a Ribena each (which the parents never refer to by its correct brand name, merely saying 'drink your juice'. Nobody is allowed to leave the pub or eaterie until said 'juice' has been completely drunk. Under the guise that it's good for them even though it's not, it has however been paid for. 

 

(4) Said children's eyes have the low burning embers of a childhood largely bereft of child like fun. Chocolate bars are rarely ever encountered, and usually only provided by grandparents or their friends' slightly hippyish parents. Consumption is never immediate, and after being told to thank the chocolate bar's provider, it is stowed away for a later date, usually after a school achievement or impromptu visit to A&E. Television and 'appropriate programming' is also controlled in a Stasi-like grip. Said child is, from the age of about nine, already planning to move out so they can eat chocolate and have fun in an unscheduled way. The parent knows this, and considers it an important part of their development so they can learn to stand on their own two feet.

 

(5) Unlike TV, access to gaming on tablets and mummy's smartphone is not strictly controlled, because it's free and slightly less lower class, it also keeps the kid quiet while mum and dad worry about holidays and family disputes. Said child can be locked into an iPad game for up to two or three hours at a time, usually before they get dressed.

 

(6) The household owns a tablet, usually an iPad (older, bigger one) and it has a ridiculously chunky OTT case on to prevent damage. 

 

(7) After the kids are born, only one parent has a decent phone, usually him - because they tell themselves it's important for his job - she will have her mum's old Blackberry. 

 

(8) The entire family own North Face waterproofs. The woman's will be pink (possibly a gilet).

 

(9) The woman is always slender and in really good shape, but with a cheap and largely functional haircut.

 

(10) The man has a study (often the box room) which doubles as 'the den' or games room for him and his friends (this usually involves a cheap dart board, which he's not very good at, and none of his friends come around very often anyway, and when they do it's always as a couple.)

 

(11) The parents are both secret pissheads. Always wine. Although he's recently taken to strong Belgian beer (in the correct glass) since it became popular. When friends are round the kids' bedtime is brought forward appropriately so the booze can be enjoyed.   

 

(12) At least one of them has had an affair but they've patched things up. They tell themselves it's for the sake of the kids but it's really because they both like the house and can't afford to live there on their own. 

 

(13) At least one of them (usually the woman) has travelled to Banff in Canada during her life and done something interesting involving a canoe.

 

Haha! Must have missed this first time around. This is the most perfect post I’ve read on here!

[Strontium]

She's lovely. I'd like to burst her brown star while playing inspector Morse music.

Does she knock Foxy off the top of the dangerfuck list though?

[Rico1304]

Does she knock Foxy off the top of the dangerfuck list though?

3 stitches v a dead body - no contest.

[Strontium]

Sure, but I get the feeling this girl hasn't peaked yet.

[Pureblood]

Does she knock Foxy off the top of the dangerfuck list though?

 

Highest new entry.

[Section_31]

Does she knock Foxy off the top of the dangerfuck list though?

Nah no way. Knox got away with it, doubly dangerous.

[Mook]

It really depends on whether you think the justice system should be about punishing people every time they make an error, or whether you think they should get another chance if they show they are willing to address their human shortcomings.

 

I think that depends on whether your definition of an 'error' includes deliberately slashing someone's leg with a knife.

[Rico1304]

I think that depends on whether your definition of an 'error' includes deliberately slashing someone's leg with a knife.

I thought you were Scottish? This kind of 'slashing' wouldn't get you kicked out of nursery school.

[Mook]

I thought you were Scottish? This kind of 'slashing' wouldn't get you kicked out of nursery school.

 

 

Kicked out? They won't let me fucking in.

[General Dryness]

I thought you were Scottish? This kind of 'slashing' wouldn't get you kicked out of nursery school.

 

Champ has already called Mook out as being soft as shite on another thread.

 

Thats the forum equivalent of having sand kicked in your face by Walter the Softie from the Beano.