Tom Werner

[Gym Beglin]

Regarding the £350m on a stadium, you're not taking into account naming rights to offset that cost.

City got £150m for theirs.

 

Is the NESV gameplan one of building and then selling once we are successful?

I don't think so, not least because it takes so long to reach the earning potential of a club like Barca or United.

[Trucker Paddy]

 

You really think two men in their 80's will still be running LFC?

 

I bet Henry missus still looks awesome then, I'm all for her running the show.

[silverlining]

 

Regarding the £350m on a stadium, you're not taking into account naming rights to offset that cost.

City got £150m for theirs.

 

In a laughably inflated bent deal

[Gym Beglin]

For sure, but I'd be gutted if we didn't get £100m for ours, completely above board.

Having said that, with NESV's links across the pond, I think they could wangle something with an American firm to boost their visibility here in the UK, and we could be looking at more than we expected.

[Guest San Don]

You really think two men in their 80's will still be running LFC?

 

No I dont. But that's for them to decide. And even if they arent running the club, who or what is to say FSG wont be?

 

In any event, the day to day running isnt done by two men in their 60's today, they delegate that responsibility to a Chief Executive.

[Hermes]

No I dont. But that's for them to decide. And even if they arent running the club, who or what is to say FSG wont be?

 

In any event, the day to day running isnt done by two men in their 60's today, they delegate that responsibility to a Chief Executive.

 

They bought the club as an investment, not to sink hundreds of millions into it now for a return that they will never see. The stadium will only happen if they can make a big return in the short term.

[shaunstrudwick]

very surprised we haven't progressed any further with the stadium tbh

 

and disappointed :(

[Guest San Don]

They bought the club as an investment, not to sink hundreds of millions into it now for a return that they will never see. The stadium will only happen if they can make a big return in the short term.

 

While Im not that naive to think they bought the club to be simply altruistic, Im not convinced they bought the club purely as an investment and intention to sell on with a profit (as lard arse brasil continues to spout on talkshite) either.

 

Sure, they probably will one day but I dont think that's going to be within a few years of building any proposed new stadium.

[Hermes]

very surprised we haven't progressed any further with the stadium tbh

 

and disappointed :(

 

They are waiting for somebody else to provide a massive chunk of the cash.

[Chippo]

Why do people assume that we are going to need more than 60.000 seats in the future, when football (and sports in general) are experiencing a negativ development in spectators?

[silverlining]

Why do people assume that we are going to need more than 60.000 seats in the future, when football (and sports in general) are experiencing a negativ development in spectators?

 

A "negative development in spectators"?

 

You fucking what?

[The Dude Abides]

They've only been here under a year so it's unfair to use the ineptness of our previous regimes to be critical of them.

 

When would be the cheapest time for us to do it? Are construction costs still coming down?

 

I'm sure it all hinges on what kind of deal they can get for the naming rights. They aren't going to cough up £300m themselves, and no one wants the club to be laboured with that kind of debt. So we wait.

[WaltonRed]

Groundshare will happen I reckon.

[Liquid football]

nah no chance

[shaunstrudwick]

They are waiting for somebody else to provide a massive chunk of the cash.

 

but not via naming rights?

 

thought Ayre once said we could get £200m over 10 years for them?

[Il Fenomeno]

Groundshare would be awful for us. It wouldn't benefit us at all in the long run.

[Liquid football]

Groundshare would be awful for us. It wouldn't benefit us at all in the long run.

 

Plus they already know it's PR suicide. They are not fucking stupid.

[moof]

our fans don't want it so I think it's a non-starter.

 

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[Guest ShoePiss]

For sure, but I'd be gutted if we didn't get £100m for ours, completely above board.

Having said that, with NESV's links across the pond, I think they could wangle something with an American firm to boost their visibility here in the UK, and we could be looking at more than we expected.

 

Gutted? You just want £100m and don't care about the length of the deal? I'm guessing this figure has to come from arsenal's deal (or did you come to this via informed financial calculations?) which by now you should know is over 15 years and includes an 8 year shirt sponsorship. It's peanuts.

 

Groundshare will happen I reckon.

 

The more I think about it the less I'm concerned. They've made a huge effort to understand us and conduct themselves in a respectful way. To go down this road would make their work so far a waste of time and completely destructive. Hopefully they haven't under-estimated the feelings surrounding this.

 

They may stealthily test the water on it to see exactly how strong the reaction is, I suppose we have to be ready for that and respond accordingly.

[Unrighteous]

Regarding the £350m on a stadium, you're not taking into account naming rights to offset that cost.

City got £150m for theirs.

 

Is the NESV gameplan one of building and then selling once we are successful?

I don't think so, not least because it takes so long to reach the earning potential of a club like Barca or United.

 

Manchester City don't own their Stadium. They are leasing it from Manchester City Council... that money should be forced to be paid to the Manchester City Council.

[Unrighteous]

Plus they already know it's PR suicide. They are not fucking stupid.

 

It's business stupid, too. We need the asset of the stadium, and all of it's revenue streams.

[ternando_forres]

If we groundshare with Everton they might actually get sold to a decent owner, why would we want to help them?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

 

You really think two men in their 80's will still be running LFC?

 

It's not just two men though is it. It's a collective group of investors.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

 

Manchester City don't own their Stadium. They are leasing it from Manchester City Council... that money should be forced to be paid to the Manchester City Council.

 

I was under the impression that Mansouri had bought it. Otherwise how could they get naming rights for a stadium they don't own?

[Guest ShoePiss]

I was under the impression that Mansouri had bought it. Otherwise how could they get naming rights for a stadium they don't own?

 

No, the lease was renegotiated and they now pay the city of manchester £3m per year instead of £2m per year.

 

Edit: they're able to get naming rights because there's a deal with the council on the Etihad campus thing.