Tom Werner

[Hermes]

- Even if Liverpool own the stadium outright and have Everton as tenants, who's to say that Everton won't find a buyer in the future, who may want to purchase 50% of the stadium or even buy it outright? Liverpool would then need to go through the new stadium process all over again. We've seen already how difficult that has been.

 

- How do you look after a pitch that is in use almost twice a week? When a pitch is laid, it is recommended that they allow at least 4 weeks to enable it to bed in properly. Given that it would need replacing at least twice a year, how will they do this?

 

We wouldn't be forced to sell. The pitch? technology these days deals with that, we are not playing on a 1970's pitch.

[Trumo]

The pitch? technology these days deals with that, we are not playing on a 1970's pitch.

 

Ah, that's where they've been going wrong at the likes of Wembley, the Amsterdam Arena and the San Siro. 1970s pitch technology!

[Hermes]

Ah, that's where they've been going wrong at the likes of Wembley, the Amsterdam Arena and the San Siro. 1970s pitch technology!

 

Wembley's pitch is fixed. Milan's was due to lack of light and air due to the high stands not the number of games on it. It's moved on.

[beejay]

I've said this before, but a groundshare will give Everton a facility far better than anything they could envisage for themselves, and therefore a massive leg up, whilst Liverpool will be faced with a compromised solution they cannot hope to maximise any benefit from. There would be no scope for further expansion if and when necessary either. Just a few other points:

 

- Even if FSG are looking to increase the value of LFC to sell the club in the future at massive profit, how would this be realised if they don't 100% own the asset (stadium)?

 

- Even if Liverpool own the stadium outright and have Everton as tenants, who's to say that Everton won't find a buyer in the future, who may want to purchase 50% of the stadium or even buy it outright? Liverpool would then need to go through the new stadium process all over again. We've seen already how difficult that has been.

 

- How do you look after a pitch that is in use almost twice a week? When a pitch is laid, it is recommended that they allow at least 4 weeks to enable it to bed in properly. Given that it would need replacing at least twice a year, how will they do this?

 

 

This has all been discussed before in another thread but Henry went to see the Allianz Arena in Munich a few weeks back and then said how impressive it is. That is a ground share with 30 year naming rights between Bayern & TSV 1860 and was set up as a 50:50 originally but TSV then sold out their share but with a buy-back option and subsequently sold their right to that as well, so they are now just a tenant. All the TSV fans now want their own ground.

 

Here's a wikipedia link for more info.

 

Allianz Arena - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if we follow suit

[Trumo]

How about the fact that Bayern and 1860 were already sharing the Olympiastadion before the Allianz Arena was built? And that 1860 are struggling financially and have already sold their 50% share to Bayern, for the lesser burden of annual rent instead? And that, apart from matchday income, 1860 derive next to no other income from the Allianz Arena? I think John Henry's comments regarding the Allianz Arena were about its quality as a world class football stadium, not about how groundshare might be a solution.

[Barrington Womble]

We build it with money we borrow. They pay a yearly rent. If it cost £300m at 10% interest over 25 years it's £42m-a-year needed for 25 years.

 

Let them pay £21m-a-year rent indefinitely and after 50 years they will have paid for a stadium we own and they will still be paying us £21m-a-year to play in our stadium.

 

the point the previous poster was making was if we were partners. part of the point of a new stadium though is what we'll make when there's no football happening. it's supposedly what give the advantage over redeveloping anfield.

 

however, there's no way in a million years the shite will pay us 21m rent per year. they won't get 60k per week. they will normally only get about 40k. they charge less than 40 quid per ticket as far as i know. by the time expenses are taken into account, they'd make no money on match day. we'll be lucky to get 10m a year off them.

[ternando_forres]

The Spirit of Shankly appear to be against groundshare (I hope it's still the case) so I hope if it looks like it might happen they will release a statement and maybe the people against it can mobilise like last time