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A bit more background.    I live and work in Coventry. I’m proud to raise my family here and call this city my home. But I’ve also been on strike since January, and I need to tell you why.

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It was the Lib Dems that helped deliver this Johnson government and what's almost certainly going to be a no deal Brexit,  that's surely beyond dispute.    The opposition parties had Johnson

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8 hours ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Fair enough, I do think there needs to be a new left. And it can’t be the BLM crazies who want to defund the police and close all prisons either. The US have a better handle on the new left than we do. The US, home of the antisocialist neocon nut jobs. Most of all, I want a group that will be economically left, socially liberal, but aren’t suckered in to all the old arguments and hatred. I want the one with the moral high ground to be able to win the debate rather than lose it. I want them to look be caring and put humanity first but also be able to present themselves in a way where they look like a credible opposition. If New Zealand can do it with Arden - who isn’t a mad leftie, but gives a fuck - then we should be able to. This guy was doing the rounds over the last couple of days. 
 


Obviously some here will judge him because he doesn’t look like a gardener so he must be a right winger, but he wins the argument against the types I want us on the left to win arguments against. 

One of many issues I don't understand voters sticking with "their guy" irrespective of their policies, obviously Johnson has a lot of this. What happens to them is irrelevant as long as they are seen to be right, I am just not sure how they measure being right, this is voters I mean. The same with voting against feeding children will be washed away and forgotten come the next election. 

 

 

To make the point,  Georgia still seems slanted towards the Republicans, hopefully it will change. 

 

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/senate/georgia/

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/georgia-senate-debate-ossoff-perdue/index.html

 

 

Mentioning Johnson, see the big brave Purdue has pulled out of the next debate. Not because he got his arse handed to him, oh no;

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/29/politics/georgia-senate-debate-ossoff-perdue/index.html

 

 "As lovely as another debate listening to Jon Ossoff lie to the people of Georgia sounds, Senator Perdue will not be participating in the WSB-TV debate but will instead join the 45th president, Donald J. Trump, for a huge Get-Out-The-Vote rally in Northwest Georgia," Perdue spokesman John Burke told CNN in a statement.

 

 

 

"Shame on you, Senator," Ossoff tweeted Thursday in response to the news. "At last night's debate, millions saw that Perdue had no answers when I called him out on his record of blatant corruption, widespread disease, and economic devastation."

Wednesday night in Savannah, Perdue at one point attacked Ossoff for raising large sums of cash from out-of-state donors who want a "radical socialist agenda."   *

 

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* Ossaf is Jewish, so he is allowed to be a radical socialist

 

** I know this should be in the US Election thread but I am responding to a post from this thread 

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I’ve spent the last couple of days decorating the kids room, meaning I’ve had plenty of quiet time alone and able to process my thoughts on everything that’s been happening. Having had that time and opportunity I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m just really, really shit at painting.

The most underrated painter in history was Adolf Hitler, which was his hobby before he chose to become a mass murderer. He could paint out a 2 bedroom apartment in one day, two coats.

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1 hour ago, Nummer Neunzehn said:

Labour will still win the seats. I’ve no issue with anybody wanting to put Corbyn ahead of their party going the way of chuka. 

I think you might be slightly underestimating these events but time will tell, imo  it wont be as painless a split as it was with someone as irrelevant as Chuka. For one the tories are going to have a bit more to say and for two so are the journalists and commentators, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think you might be slightly underestimating these events but time will tell, imo  it wont be as painless a split as it was with someone as irrelevant as Chuka. For one the tories are going to have a bit more to say and for two so are the journalists and commentators, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thought he was suspended for his response to the report not the report itself?

 

Starmer apparently phoned him the night before and told him what he was going to say in his speech, including the bit about not downplaying the issue of saying it's been overblown.

 

Corbyn then did exactly that half an hour before Starmer made said speech.

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Thought he was suspended for his response to the report not the report itself?

 

Starmer apparently phoned him the night before and told him what he was going to say in his speech, including the bit about not downplaying the issue of saying it's been overblown.

 

Corbyn then did exactly that half an hour before Starmer made said speech.

That's what I thought but its apparently its not that clear as it hasn't been confirmed. Anyway it's a ridiculous caveat to say members are not allowed to say its exaggerated, its asking for trouble, mainly because it's true, it has been exaggerated. 

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I think you might be slightly underestimating these events but time will tell, imo  it wont be as painless a split as it was with someone as irrelevant as Chuka. For one the tories are going to have a bit more to say and for two so are the journalists and commentators, 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How fucking naive? The day after JC announces any new party and the rebel MPs have to put their livelihoods behind a 71 yr old bloke with a toxic brand and proven track record of, well, failure the silence will be deafening. Corporate sponsors, can you send some money to our party? Mmm, nope. 

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25 minutes ago, Captain Howdy said:

You sound really disappointed 

I am, not with them polls, they'll even themselves out in time but with this whole charade of alleged anti semitism because 1. I dont think Corbyn is an anti semite and 2 it seems the anti semitism issue within the labour party is being weaponised to settle political scores.

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10 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Have a bit of tomorrow's telegraph instead, going well this decisive leadership nonsense..

 

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/10/30/labours-rot-goes-far-deeper-jeremy-corbyn/?WT.mc_id=tmgliveapp_iosshare_AwKsFg3lF30j

 

 

 

What should Starmer have done for IDS, Uber Tory ahithouse, to be on side and things to be ‘going well’? Think if Starmer didn’t suspend Corbyn IDS would have praised him? 
 

By the way, 4% of Tories trout it was the wrong move. 13% of the UK.

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