Inequality

[VladimirIlyich]

8 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Denmark is unreal. Got the population of Wales or something and it's wealthy as fuck, flash cars get hammered for tax but their welfare state takes the piss, they have universal free nursery and childcare I think. Everyone does time in the army so they're all combat trained and they've got loads of bacon.

The only Scandinavian country on the european mainland so not much different to upping sticks and moving to Holland or Germany or Belgium for instance.

[Jairzinho]

9 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Denmark is unreal. Got the population of Wales or something and it's wealthy as fuck, flash cars get hammered for tax but their welfare state takes the piss, they have universal free nursery and childcare I think. Everyone does time in the army so they're all combat trained and they've got loads of bacon.

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Denmark is considered to be one of the most economically and socially developed countries in the world.^[15] Danes enjoy a high standard of living and the country ranks highly in some metrics of national performance, including education, health care, protection of civil liberties, democratic governance, LGBT equality, prosperity, and human development.^[16][17][18] The country ranks as having the world's highest social mobility,^[19] a high level of income equality,^[20] the lowest perceived level of corruption in the world, the eleventh-highest HDI in the world, one of the world's highest per capita incomes, and one of the world's highest personal income tax rates.^[21]

 

Always go full Denmark.

[Section_31]

You can't become a Danish citizen without shaking hands with the person conducting the ceremony. 

[VladimirIlyich]

1 minute ago, Jairzinho said:

Always go full Denmark.

The clue is in the last sentence 'some of the highest personal income tax rates.' The true application of 'We're all in this together.'

[Section_31]

The Norwegians distribute their oil wealth to some kind of fund for its citizens. Imagine us doing that? It actually makes you laugh out loud.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

You can't become a Danish citizen without shaking hands with the person conducting the ceremony. 

Does the ceremony involve bacon? I'll shake Hans Christian Andersons dick if so.

 

 

 

Not even arsed about the citizenship. Bacon. 

[Jairzinho]

Denmark actually has about 10 billionaires as well. Admittedly half of them own equal shares in Lego. But still, for a country of about 6m people, that provides for all, to still have the ability to become unbelievably rich...

 

What a fucking ace country. It's laughable when you hear stuff a trillion miles to the right of them described as Social Democracy. 

 

 

[cloggypop]

The food is Denmark is boss. 

[Jairzinho]

Caroline Wozniacki.

[Jairzinho]

Gus Hansen. 

[KMD7]

Ff on the Gf but whatever.

Preban Elkjar.

 

[Bruce Spanner]

8 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

The food is Denmark is boss. 

As is the beer.

 

I love the general cycle vibe as well, like Holland but without stoners falling in to canals.

[cloggypop]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

As is the beer.

 

I love the general cycle vibe as well, like Holland but without stoners falling in to canals.

Did you not go to Christiania? 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, cloggypop said:

Did you not go to Christiania? 

I didn’t, but I will now, sounds glorious!

[cloggypop]

Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

I didn’t, but I will now, sounds glorious!

It's full of drug dealers now unfortunately. The anarchistic utopia is not what it was. 

[Bjornebye]

Darryl Hannah 

[SasaS]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

Denmark actually has about 10 billionaires as well. Admittedly half of them own equal shares in Lego. But still, for a country of about 6m people, that provides for all, to still have the ability to become unbelievably rich...

 

What a fucking ace country. It's laughable when you hear stuff a trillion miles to the right of them described as Social Democracy. 

 

 

So Shakespeare was just an envious Brit, as per usual?

One of the Danish billionaires owns half of Scotland and plans to rewild it. The one whose children were killed in the Sri Lanka terrorist attack last year or thereabouts.

It always ranks first or so in the list of world's happiest countries.

[Jairzinho]

Just now, SasaS said:

So Shakespeare was just an envious Brit, as per usual?

One of the Danish billionaires owns half of Scotland and plans to rewild it. The one whose children were killed in the Sri Lanka terrorist attack last year or thereabouts.

It always ranks first or so in the list of world's happiest countries.

Yeah, always seems to be them and Costa Rica. Which is odd in the case of the latter because all of their neighbouring countries look like a version of GTA.

 

 

[Jairzinho]

And, that must be Anders Povlsen you're talking about right? All the other Danish billionaires flog trainers or Lego.

[VladimirIlyich]

1 hour ago, Jairzinho said:

Gus Hansen. 

Your economy is not taking a hell of a beating.

[Geoff Woade]

3 hours ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

Some interesting ideas about the redistributive potential of wage caps.

 

https://autonomy.work/portfolio/payratios/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2020/oct/08/cap-excessive-pay-to-tackle-uk-jobs-crisis-and-inequality-urges-thinktank

It’s ok but not massively revealing is it? People earning less think that people earning more are on too much. Groundbreaking.

I’m more into correct taxation that removes loopholes. I’ve no interest in what someone earns, you get what you can but percentages on PAYE seem fair and proportionate. It’s making people stick to those. We spend a lot of time focusing on the individuals, to me that’s unfair as long as the above is being met.

We need to stop the big corporations from dodging, that’s a much bigger issue. It’s easy for me to say ‘tell amazon they owe us the corpy tax or fuck them off’ but surely there’s a better option than limiting what individuals can aspire to?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

On 07/10/2020 at 21:58, VladimirIlyich said:

Denmark for me also.

Marco van Basten

[AngryOfTuebrook]

21 minutes ago, Geoff Woade said:

It’s ok but not massively revealing is it? People earning less think that people earning more are on too much. Groundbreaking.

I’m more into correct taxation that removes loopholes. I’ve no interest in what someone earns, you get what you can but percentages on PAYE seem fair and proportionate. It’s making people stick to those. We spend a lot of time focusing on the individuals, to me that’s unfair as long as the above is being met.

We need to stop the big corporations from dodging, that’s a much bigger issue. It’s easy for me to say ‘tell amazon they owe us the corpy tax or fuck them off’ but surely there’s a better option than limiting what individuals can aspire to?

I thought it was interesting to see what the effect of redistribution would be, more than anything else. 

 

I don't see limiting income inequality and making taxation fair as an either/or thing: you probably need both to tackle runaway inequality.  I'm not wholly convinced by the proposal to introduce an income tax in absolute terms is the way to go about it (although I could be open to being persuaded). My preference would be for some sort of regulation of the ratio between CEO income and median employee income.

[SasaS]

15 hours ago, Jairzinho said:

And, that must be Anders Povlsen you're talking about right? All the other Danish billionaires flog trainers or Lego.

Yes, I first heard of him when the list of biggest landowners in the UK came up but was more intrigued by the rewilding thing.

Is Costa Rica the one without an army?

[Jairzinho]

Just now, SasaS said:

Yes, I first heard of him when the list of biggest landowners in the UK came up but was more intrigued by the rewilding thing.

Is Costa Rica the one without an army?

Yes, I think you're right.