LFC approach Wigan for martinez

[redsoxs]

What really pisses me off..... what happens if Martinez fails to get fourth? where back to square one, becoming the biggest laughing stock of the league. That be 3 managers in 3 yrs!!

 

FSG better get this right.

[JoeyJones65]

Missing Person :

 

Roberto Martinez.

 

According to media reports he has allegedly been on his way to Boston,USA for the past five days, but there is no evidence to confirm this. If found, please return him to Wigan Athletic where he belongs as the Pie Eaters are getting worried.

[sir roger]

Missing Person :

 

Roberto Martinez.

 

According to media reports he has allegedly been on his way to Boston,USA for the past five days, but there is no evidence to confirm this. If found, please return him to Wigan Athletic where he belongs as the Pie Eaters are getting worried.

 

SSN were disappearing up their own arsehole this morning, reporting one hour that Martinez had not spoken to LFC yet & then the next hour claiming he was off to Boston for a 2nd interview.

[fowler9]

What really pisses me off..... what happens if Martinez fails to get fourth? where back to square one, becoming the biggest laughing stock of the league. That be 3 managers in 3 yrs!!

 

FSG better get this right.

 

its got to be the aim for 4th but not go for it or sacked but we must compete for it, I think if Kenny had've come 8th but been within reasonable distance of 4th he'd have stayed but we were a long way off

[Brownie]

Of those currently left in the picture (as far as we know) I would favour Rodgers, then Villas-Boas, then Martinez.

 

The idea of appointing Van Gaal above the "manager" seems fatally flawed to me though. Either give him the actual manager's job - which I wouldn't have a problem with - or appoint someone who isn't going to create huge amounts of confusion as to who is actually running things.

 

I like Rodgers as well, purely because he has a clear ethos and direction when it comes to his philosophy on the game. He hasn't done anywhere near enough in his career so far though, to warrant the LFC job, in my opinion. AVB has at least won some trophies hence why he's top of the list for me right now.

[Section_31]

I think people are getting too worked up about something that hasn't even happened yet. It's close season and made up press reports will always abound, add to this the devil's needlecraft that is Twitter and you've got a recipe for a pan European migraine. Simmer down you lads, let your feet breathe.

[MLB]

I like Rodgers as well, purely because he has a clear ethos and direction when it comes to his philosophy on the game. He hasn't done anywhere near enough in his career so far though, to warrant the LFC job, in my opinion. AVB has at least won some trophies hence why he's top of the list for me right now.

 

 

I think that's fair enough. There are two ways of looking at that though. Villas-Boas has won things, but he has won things at a club with expectations to win things. Porto were a fair bit stronger than all of their rivals in Portugal and they won things both before and after his tenure. He also now has a record of moving to a "bigger" club and failing.

 

Now, I'm not writing Villas-Boas off by any means, but I think there are reasons to suspect he's not all he's cracked up to be.

 

To be fair, Rodgers' record is a mixed bag as well. He seems to have done okay at Watford, crap at Reading and brilliantly at Swansea. What I like about him, and why I think he would be a slightly better fit for us, is the way he's got Swansea playing. He seems to have a clear vision and has been very successful in implementing it. I don't think he's the perfect candidate by any means, but I think he is in many ways less of a risky appointment than Villas-Boas.

[Fugitive]

I'd take Van Gaal as manager. He'd defo come in, kick a few arses, clear out the shite and give us some leadership when we need it most. His record is outstanding and he looks the type that would command the players respect.

[lifetime fan]

I'd take Van Gaal as manager. He'd defo come in, kick a few arses, clear out the shite and give us some leadership when we need it most. His record is outstanding and he looks the type that would command the players respect.

 

 

Spot on.

 

I'd love to see any of the players try and tell him where they would and wouldn't play.

[piscinin]

Spot on.

 

I'd love to see any of the players try and tell him where they would and wouldn't play.

 

And then he'd be deconstructed just like every other egomaniac who doesn't understand 'man management'. The irony of man in that phrase is quite something.

[FanchesterCity]

Spot on.

 

I'd love to see any of the players try and tell him where they would and wouldn't play.

 

How many times does it have to be demonstrated that 'kick arse' merchants usually cause chaos, and player power sees them gone within the same season!

 

Of course, Fergie's kick ass, but that's largely down to him being the father figure to younger players, and over a number of years. That's a far cry from the 'parachute in an SAS style manager'.

 

I'm no real fan of Old Harry, but I'll say this for him: he appears to get players believing they are better than they really are, and putting in some great performances. Obviously it can't last forever, but that's probably what a fair few of the Liverpool lads needs at the moment - some belief.

 

A positive thinking, upbeat character's required - not another Sergeant Major pretending he has power (when it's clear the players have it all - because that's where the money's being spent!)

[usernameunknown]

I like Rodgers as well, purely because he has a clear ethos and direction when it comes to his philosophy on the game. He hasn't done anywhere near enough in his career so far though, to warrant the LFC job, in my opinion. AVB has at least won some trophies hence why he's top of the list for me right now.

 

Agreed, like how he always wants to learn aswell, apparently off to observe Spain training sessions in Euro 2012 prep. But defo concerns about what he's done or not done yet.

[Rafiagra]

Surprised Chelsea havent moved for LVG. It would either work out amazingly, or be World War 3.

 

Out of what's left, LVG is our best option as manager but I can't see him as DOF with some 'minor' name manager. Would have been class if De Boer would have come in aswell as that could work nicely

[Fugitive]

Van Gaal has won everywhere he's been and he would also give us leadership at a time when we appear to have none. If he comes in as DoF as it seems he will, I can see conflict between him and whoever they brought in as manager. Just bring him in as manager and let him get on with it. He'd also help us attract better players than the others mentioned.

[lifetime fan]

And then he'd be deconstructed just like every other egomaniac who doesn't understand 'man management'. The irony of man in that phrase is quite something.

 

Then fuck them.

 

European Cup winning manager doesn't put his arm around me and tell me how great I am.

 

Where have I heard that before...

[lifetime fan]

How many times does it have to be demonstrated that 'kick arse' merchants usually cause chaos, and player power sees them gone within the same season!

 

Of course, Fergie's kick ass, but that's largely down to him being the father figure to younger players, and over a number of years. That's a far cry from the 'parachute in an SAS style manager'.

 

I'm no real fan of Old Harry, but I'll say this for him: he appears to get players believing they are better than they really are, and putting in some great performances. Obviously it can't last forever, but that's probably what a fair few of the Liverpool lads needs at the moment - some belief.

 

A positive thinking, upbeat character's required - not another Sergeant Major pretending he has power (when it's clear the players have it all - because that's where the money's being spent!)

 

 

Like a club legend you mean?

 

One who defended the indefensible after certain performances to try and protect the players and the players then just shat on him.

 

No thanks.

[Fugitive]

A positive thinking, upbeat character's required - not another Sergeant Major pretending he has power (when it's clear the players have it all - because that's where the money's being spent!)

 

Somebody call Ian!!!

 

[Magic Sponge]

You know the shits hit the fan when a city fan is telling us whats best for us.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

I am getting very, very worried that we are about to make the most serious mistake in our history. There's no perfect candidate I appreciate that, but Martinez is the worst manager we've been linked with so far by a mile and I will be absolutely disgusted if we appoint him.

 

If the two man shortlist is Martinez and Rodgers, FSG have screwed up big time. They have made an absolutely enormous mistake in sacking Dalglish if that's the best they can come up with. We are a shambles, an absolute shambles. They might as well give the job to van Gaal if that's all they have to offer.

 

It's looking increasingly likely that that's our lot, and I won't support neither of them. They are NOT good enough for Liverpool. They will NOT get us back into the top 4. The day we accept those as managerial appointments is the day we officially accept that we are not one of the elite anymore, and probably never will be again. No stadium, no long term strategy, no clue.

 

Appoint either of those two and FSG can go for me. I respect what they are trying to do money wise but they haven't got a clue. Appointing a survival specialist or someone who has had ONE good season in the league is a recipe for complete failure. Pressing the panic button? You fucking bet I am.

[Anubis]

Villas-Boas out of contention as Liverpool have second thoughts - Premier League - Football - The Independent

 

 

Of the timeframe for appointing a manager, the managing director, Ian Ayre, said last week: "We are all aware that you want to be active in the transfer market and have that manager back looking at his players and his squad. You certainly would want to have someone in place for when the players are coming back for pre-season, which is July."

 

 

Yes, Ian, that would be pretty fucking useful.

[chauncey]

I am getting very, very worried that we are about to make the most serious mistake in our history. There's no perfect candidate I appreciate that, but Martinez is the worst manager we've been linked with so far by a mile and I will be absolutely disgusted if we appoint him.

 

If the two man shortlist is Martinez and Rodgers, FSG have screwed up big time. They have made an absolutely enormous mistake in sacking Dalglish if that's the best they can come up with. We are a shambles, an absolute shambles. They might as well give the job to van Gaal if that's all they have to offer.

 

It's looking increasingly likely that that's our lot, and I won't support neither of them. They are NOT good enough for Liverpool. They will NOT get us back into the top 4. The day we accept those as managerial appointments is the day we officially accept that we are not one of the elite anymore, and probably never will be again. No stadium, no long term strategy, no clue.

 

Appoint either of those two and FSG can go for me. I respect what they are trying to do money wise but they haven't got a clue. Appointing a survival specialist or someone who has had ONE good season in the league is a recipe for complete failure. Pressing the panic button? You fucking bet I am.

 

With support like this we can overcome anything.

[xerxes]

I am getting very, very worried that we are about to make the most serious mistake in our history. There's no perfect candidate I appreciate that, but Martinez is the worst manager we've been linked with so far by a mile and I will be absolutely disgusted if we appoint him.

 

If the two man shortlist is Martinez and Rodgers, FSG have screwed up big time. They have made an absolutely enormous mistake in sacking Dalglish if that's the best they can come up with. We are a shambles, an absolute shambles. They might as well give the job to van Gaal if that's all they have to offer.

 

It's looking increasingly likely that that's our lot, and I won't support neither of them. They are NOT good enough for Liverpool. They will NOT get us back into the top 4. The day we accept those as managerial appointments is the day we officially accept that we are not one of the elite anymore, and probably never will be again. No stadium, no long term strategy, no clue.

 

Appoint either of those two and FSG can go for me. I respect what they are trying to do money wise but they haven't got a clue. Appointing a survival specialist or someone who has had ONE good season in the league is a recipe for complete failure. Pressing the panic button? You fucking bet I am.

Martinez is not my first choice, but I accept that he is a serious contender and think that you do him a serious injustice in your post.

 

He was good enough to take four points off Kenny in his two games with us this season. His team scored only five fewer league goals despite a forward line that cost £50m less and who were earning on average less than a quarter of what our players were earning. He also has first hand , contemporary knowledge of the Pl and Champ transfer market which KK lacked.

 

The implication that LVG would be some sort of derisory alternative to KK, when his managerial experience dwarfs Kenny’s is curious.

 

Your refusal to support a Liverpool manager will only add to the malaise that has gripped the club for too long. A return to the top four will have more to do with the money that FSG are prepared to invest than the difference between different managers.

 

We are not in the elite anymore. Under Kenny we failed to qualify for the EL for two successive seasons by league position. Could Martiniz/Rodgers do better than joint 8th/9th and 47 league goals? I think they could.

 

Martinez is manager of Wigan – survival is as good as it gets. Berating him for not doing better is foolish. Although I am not a Martinez-ista, I suspect that we are going to have to start looking at his good points rather than deluding ourselves that we are going to do “better” – whoever that is.

[Mr Nando]

Martinez is not my first choice, but I accept that he is a serious contender and think that you do him a serious injustice in your post.

 

He was good enough to take four points off Kenny in his two games with us this season. His team scored only five fewer league goals despite a forward line that cost £50m less and who were earning on average less than a quarter of what our players were earning. He also has first hand , contemporary knowledge of the Pl and Champ transfer market which KK lacked.

 

The implication that LVG would be some sort of derisory alternative to KK, when his managerial experience dwarfs Kenny’s is curious.

 

Your refusal to support a Liverpool manager will only add to the malaise that has gripped the club for too long. A return to the top four will have more to do with the money that FSG are prepared to invest than the difference between different managers.

 

We are not in the elite anymore. Under Kenny we failed to qualify for the EL for two successive seasons by league position. Could Martiniz/Rodgers do better than joint 8th/9th and 47 league goals? I think they could.

 

Martinez is manager of Wigan – survival is as good as it gets. Berating him for not doing better is foolish. Although I am not a Martinez-ista, I suspect that we are going to have to start looking at his good points rather than deluding ourselves that we are going to do “better” – whoever that is.

 

So basically because we had a shit season we should accept a shit manager.

 

Fantastic.

 

 

Oh and yay experience of the Championship transfer market, how fucking delightful!

[Code]

Martinez is fuckin shite, I agree with Dan 110%.

 

They can fuck off with that absymal shite, no wonder they are renewing memberships before they appoint the new manager.

[chauncey]

You know the shits hit the fan when a city fan is telling us whats best for us.

 

But you forget he's been watching football for time and has arbitrarily chosen this season to proffer his wisdom to LFC supporters. Where were you way back in 2008-09, Fanchester City? We could have done with the real sage stuff then.