*Shakes head* Everton again.

[Bourbon]

5 hours ago, DalyanPete said:

Oh dear.

So they need someone to come in and invest £3bn to pay off Moshiri, buy the ground and clear debt? If I’ve red that right. 
 

That’s before they set a recruitment budget for new players, likely including replacing Dyche and staff, to get them up the table enough to justify the increase in ticket and box prices, which by all accounts with have upsides of up to 300%?

 

You can’t see a private investor doing all that, even with the boom in Premier League investment, just to take a long haul punt on breaking even over say, 8/10 years, it may take to recoup and sell up? Unless it’s bent money being used to flush through the western system but they’ve already had moshiri and usmanov bounced for doing exactly that. 

 

Anyone with that type of cash will be far better advised to wait on the new Super League set up and pick a club in that.

 

Administration looks their best bet so far, including if the 777 deal is using the ground as leverage and they ended up being tenants, under separate companies to the club, hilariously. 
 

That said, I’ve somehow got a horrible feeling they’ll end up somehow surviving it all, stay in the Prem and find a way back to mid table. 
 

I hope I’m wrong, my hatred for them as increased with age, rather than eased away. 

[The wanderer]

All these pork jokes are a bit near the knuckle 

[Special K]

Hopefully the Premier League will bend them over and make them squeal

[DalyanPete]

13 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

 

I will gladly light a candle, peace be with you and all the other stuff I used to do.

[DalyanPete]

7 hours ago, Bourbon said:

my hatred for them as increased with age, rather than eased away. 

Funnily enough me too.

[DalyanPete]

I think they will get another deduction, their fans will suddenly become the best supporters in the world who invented support, greet the bus, have blue smoke, suck a dog off and survive. The reality of administration will arrive and they're gone.

I fear for the dog.

[Ron B]

11 hours ago, Bourbon said:

So they need someone to come in and invest £3bn to pay off Moshiri, buy the ground and clear debt? If I’ve red that right. 

Lovely stuff there, @Bourbon 

[Bobby Hundreds]

They could be deducted 50 points and through no effort or fight of their own stay up because of the absolute fucking meffs down the bottom of the league.

[KMD7]

2 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

They could be deducted 50 points and through no effort or fight of their own stay up because of the absolute fucking meffs down the bottom of the league.

 

They will probably not win another game this season and still stay up, even with an extra points deduction. Unflushable 

[Harry Squatter]

23 hours ago, Fowlers God said:

 

Think he meant fat not strong. 

Needed a strong bench 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

4 hours ago, Bobby Hundreds said:

They could be deducted 50 points and through no effort or fight of their own stay up because of the absolute fucking meffs down the bottom of the league.

I think it's likely that they and Forest will be deducted points, sending Forest down and leaving Luton and Everton to survive on points totals that would normally guarantee a 20th place finish.

 

Then they will have to face next season with the same shit players, the same shit manager and the same desperately fucked finances.

[Lee909]

Only way Everton go down is if they get another deduction and then go into administration before the season ends

[Red74]

hoping this is juergens teamtalk before we play them at the shit tip

[Harry Squatter]

Be funny next year when they don't win anything. Thirty years of winning fucking nothing despite telling everyone what a big club they are, founder members of the PL and one of the big 5 who pushed for it only for them to end up a complete afterthought. 

 

It still won't stop them blaming everyone but themselves for their failure. Its in their DNA to whinge, moan and deflect away their own shortcomings. 

 

They are keen to tell us we never won the league for 30 years but we won 15 trophies in that period and 17 since they last won anything. More than their entire history. 

[Megadrive Man]

They won't go down this season.

 

That Luton collapse last night killed off any slight chance of it. 

 

If they get a points deduction next season they will be in real trouble though. The three teams coming up can't possibly be any worse than this seasons teams.

 

 

[3 Stacks]

20 hours ago, Bourbon said:

So they need someone to come in and invest £3bn to pay off Moshiri, buy the ground and clear debt? If I’ve red that right. 
 

That’s before they set a recruitment budget for new players, likely including replacing Dyche and staff, to get them up the table enough to justify the increase in ticket and box prices, which by all accounts with have upsides of up to 300%?

 

You can’t see a private investor doing all that, even with the boom in Premier League investment, just to take a long haul punt on breaking even over say, 8/10 years, it may take to recoup and sell up? Unless it’s bent money being used to flush through the western system but they’ve already had moshiri and usmanov bounced for doing exactly that. 

 

Anyone with that type of cash will be far better advised to wait on the new Super League set up and pick a club in that.

 

Administration looks their best bet so far, including if the 777 deal is using the ground as leverage and they ended up being tenants, under separate companies to the club, hilariously. 
 

That said, I’ve somehow got a horrible feeling they’ll end up somehow surviving it all, stay in the Prem and find a way back to mid table. 
 

I hope I’m wrong, my hatred for them as increased with age, rather than eased away. 

I always thought some oil nation would buy them. But maybe those prospects are running out. 

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

15 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

I always thought some oil nation would buy them. But maybe those prospects are running out. 

 

If financial fair play keeps being enforced then I am afraid that it is unlikely that those oil nations will see the benefits of challenging for honours, that is, without being able to buy success. The downside of this is that the status quo will be preserved.

 

It would be such a shame if ambitious clubs are prevented from challenging the Sky 6 and overcoming the tv cartel, as any hopes clubs have of ambition and growth will disappear.

 

It makes you sad. It really does.

[Code]

Its obvious Everton will be deducted 6 new points in April, do people pay no attention at all?

[Bob]

4 minutes ago, Code said:

Its obvious Everton will be deducted 6 new points in April, do people pay no attention at all?

But so will forest.

[Barrington Womble]

28 minutes ago, Code said:

Its obvious Everton will be deducted 6 new points in April, do people pay no attention at all?

 

Loads of people (and I don't mean evertonians) think it will be a 2 point deduction as they've already been done on 2 of the years in question. I don't agree with that myself, but there seems a lot of people who think it's a thing. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Megadrive Man said:

They won't go down this season.

 

That Luton collapse last night killed off any slight chance of it. 

 

If they get a points deduction next season they will be in real trouble though. The three teams coming up can't possibly be any worse than this seasons teams.

 

 

When Luton contrived to lose against Sheffield United did it for me.  

[Lee909]

3 hours ago, Harry Squatter said:

Be funny next year when they don't win anything. Thirty years of winning fucking nothing despite telling everyone what a big club they are, founder members of the PL and one of the big 5 who pushed for it only for them to end up a complete afterthought. 

 

It still won't stop them blaming everyone but themselves for their failure. Its in their DNA to whinge, moan and deflect away their own shortcomings. 

 

They are keen to tell us we never won the league for 30 years but we won 15 trophies in that period and 17 since they last won anything. More than their entire history. 

 

Even funnier when they argue with Newcadtle fans about who bigger

[Mudface]

From https://www.givemesport.com/when-did-every-premier-league-club-last-win-a-major-trophy/

 

You can throw in Portsmouth, Wigan, Leicester (league, league cup- twice- and FA cup), Swansea and Middlesborough to teams that have won something since 1995.

 

When Every Premier League Club Last Won A Major Trophy
Club	Last Trophy	Date	Trophy drought (days)
Brentford	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Brighton	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Crystal Palace	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Fulham	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Bournemouth	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Sheffield United	FA Cup	25 April 1925	36,106
Newcastle	FA Cup	7 May 1955	25,137
Burnley	Division One	2 May 1960	23,315
Wolves	League Cup	15 March 1980	16,058
Luton Town	League Cup	24 April 1988	13,096
Nottingham Forest	League Cup	29 April 1990	12,361
Everton	FA Cup	20 May 1995	10,514
Aston Villa	League Cup	24 March 1996	10,205
Tottenham	League Cup	24 February 2008	5,851
Arsenal	FA Cup	1 August 2020	1,309
Chelsea	Champions League	29 May 2021	1,008
Manchester United	League Cup	26 February 2023	370
West Ham	Europa Conference League	7 June 2023	269
Manchester City	Champions League	10 June 2023	266
Liverpool	League Cup	25 February 2024	6
Correct as of March 2, 2024.

[halewood pete]

Liverpool have scored more goals since 8 o'clock than Everton have scored since 3rd February. Just saying.

[Ron B]

2 hours ago, Mudface said:

From https://www.givemesport.com/when-did-every-premier-league-club-last-win-a-major-trophy/

 

You can throw in Portsmouth, Wigan, Leicester (league, league cup- twice- and FA cup), Swansea and Middlesborough to teams that have won something since 1995.

 

When Every Premier League Club Last Won A Major Trophy
Club	Last Trophy	Date	Trophy drought (days)
Brentford	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Brighton	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Crystal Palace	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Fulham	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Bournemouth	Never won a trophy	N/A	N/A
Sheffield United	FA Cup	25 April 1925	36,106
Newcastle	FA Cup	7 May 1955	25,137
Burnley	Division One	2 May 1960	23,315
Wolves	League Cup	15 March 1980	16,058
Luton Town	League Cup	24 April 1988	13,096
Nottingham Forest	League Cup	29 April 1990	12,361
Everton	FA Cup	20 May 1995	10,514
Aston Villa	League Cup	24 March 1996	10,205
Tottenham	League Cup	24 February 2008	5,851
Arsenal	FA Cup	1 August 2020	1,309
Chelsea	Champions League	29 May 2021	1,008
Manchester United	League Cup	26 February 2023	370
West Ham	Europa Conference League	7 June 2023	269
Manchester City	Champions League	10 June 2023	266
Liverpool	League Cup	25 February 2024	6
Correct as of March 2, 2024.

A quick check on Wikipedia (so correct me if I’m wrong…) suggests this is the longest they’ve ever gone without a trophy.