Harvey Elliott

[Jairzinho]

He played wide right for Blackburn and looked really good. Yes, he isn't rapid, but him getting ten minutes at the end of games in Salah's position would have been far better than trying to make him a central midfielder. 

 

Should have just been loaned out again really. 

[VladimirIlyich]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

He played wide right for Blackburn and looked really good. Yes, he isn't rapid, but him getting ten minutes at the end of games in Sarah's position would have been far better than trying to make him a central midfielder. 

 

Should have just been loaned out again really. 

Sarah? We are playing like women so I'm not surprised.

[Jairzinho]

Insarah.

[gkmacca]

He could become a Brian Hall-style player. But at the moment I watch him and have no idea what he's trying to do most of the time. He's definitely lost confidence, but he's obviously good technically. At the moment, thanks to Salah having zero interest in using his right foot and Trent going more and more for early long balls from deep, we've a pocket of wasted space down the right side of the opposition's penalty area, so for the short term I'd like to see Elliott told just to attack that area as much as possible, and shoot rather than try to find Salah through several sets of legs.

[No2]

Elliott is talented, Klopp will make a success of him.

[Mook]

I've never been massively impressed with him but the stick he's getting at the moment is over the top. Still plenty of time for him to be a big player for Liverpool.

 

Two other points.

 

1 I think he's got a great pass on him

2 He needs to sort that fucking hair out

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

I dont buy into the idea that he’s not a midfielder. He’s definately not a winger, he’s simply too slow for that. 
 

Current top players that are similar to him I’d say are  Bernardo Silva and Odegaard. Not very fast and definately not the tallest (which some seem to think is a great quality for a footballer), but technically gifted, hard working and with great vision and passing.

 

The question isn’t whether he’s fast enough, tall enough or suited to be a midfielder. The question is simply whether or not he is, or ever will be, good enough. And that may take time. Looking at Odegaard he was some sort of wonderkid, making his full international debut at the age of 15 and his Real Madrid debut as far back as 2015 at the age of 16. After that it would take 7-8 years before he established himself as a regular midfielder at a top team in a top league, which is what we’re asking Elliott to do. Odegaard made it at the age of 23-24, Silva a bit earlier. Whether or not Elliott will ever make it that far remains to be seen, but drawing conclusions now, when he’s 20 and playing in a team where nothing works, and the player many said was the best in the world some 18 months ago is now putting in mediocre to shit performances twice a week, is far too early.

[VladimirIlyich]

29 minutes ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

I dont buy into the idea that he’s not a midfielder. He’s definately not a winger, he’s simply too slow for that. 
 

Current top players that are similar to him I’d say are  Bernardo Silva and Odegaard. Not very fast and definately not the tallest (which some seem to think is a great quality for a footballer), but technically gifted, hard working and with great vision and passing.

 

The question isn’t whether he’s fast enough, tall enough or suited to be a midfielder. The question is simply whether or not he is, or ever will be, good enough. And that may take time. Looking at Odegaard he was some sort of wonderkid, making his full international debut at the age of 15 and his Real Madrid debut as far back as 2015 at the age of 16. After that it would take 7-8 years before he established himself as a regular midfielder at a top team in a top league, which is what we’re asking Elliott to do. Odegaard made it at the age of 23-24, Silva a bit earlier. Whether or not Elliott will ever make it that far remains to be seen, but drawing conclusions now, when he’s 20 and playing in a team where nothing works, and the player many said was the best in the world some 18 months ago is now putting in mediocre to shit performances twice a week, is far too early.

I agree it's far too early to make decisions on him,but he really shouldn't be a first teamer yet and especially in a struggling team. But ultimately it's the economics of the situation which will decide things.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, Joey8FrogsLegs said:

I dont buy into the idea that he’s not a midfielder. He’s definately not a winger, he’s simply too slow for that. 
 

Current top players that are similar to him I’d say are  Bernardo Silva and Odegaard. Not very fast and definately not the tallest (which some seem to think is a great quality for a footballer), but technically gifted, hard working and with great vision and passing.

 

The question isn’t whether he’s fast enough, tall enough or suited to be a midfielder. The question is simply whether or not he is, or ever will be, good enough. And that may take time. Looking at Odegaard he was some sort of wonderkid, making his full international debut at the age of 15 and his Real Madrid debut as far back as 2015 at the age of 16. After that it would take 7-8 years before he established himself as a regular midfielder at a top team in a top league, which is what we’re asking Elliott to do. Odegaard made it at the age of 23-24, Silva a bit earlier. Whether or not Elliott will ever make it that far remains to be seen, but drawing conclusions now, when he’s 20 and playing in a team where nothing works, and the player many said was the best in the world some 18 months ago is now putting in mediocre to shit performances twice a week, is far too early.

David Beckham says hello.

[cloggypop]

Blerts 

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When you see how much it means for him, its difficult not to just feel warm inside. 
 

 

[Fugitive]

Fucking shite that Elliott, not good enough.

 

20 years old and definitely one to write off in this shit team.

 

Muppets

[Redder Lurtz]

In fairness he's been terrible for ages, like the rest of the team so the "I told you so's" can get to fuck but he was superb tonight. More of the same please Harvey. Well pleased for him. 

[stringvest]

18 minutes ago, Redder Lurtz said:

In fairness he's been terrible for ages, like the rest of the team so the "I told you so's" can get to fuck but he was superb tonight. More of the same please Harvey. Well pleased for him. 

 

He has been poor, but he was excellent tonight in his preferred position.  Really good, committed, exciting performance.

[an tha]

Free him of so much and such important defensive duty and the lad looks a much more promising player.

 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

Lovely goal(keeper didnt cover himself in glory) and a decent performance.

[Rico1304]

He’s fucking hopeless. 

[Rico1304]

If you watch that game again check out the number of times he has to sprint to get involved.  He’s not quick, not his fault. But he’s NEVER in the right place. That’s his fault. 

[an tha]

He simply isn't a midfielder and it is such a big ask to ask a kid to learn a new position in a team with problems and perform well whilst doing so playing against teams at the highest level.

 

His best work is in the final third.

[Lee909]

Think him and Carvalho are more suited to a 4231 where they play higher up as a proper 10 or winger without needing to run at the fullback and more a wide attacking midfielder

[Jose Jones]

27 minutes ago, an tha said:

He simply isn't a midfielder and it is such a big ask to ask a kid to learn a new position in a team with problems and perform well whilst doing so playing against teams at the highest level.

 

His best work is in the final third.

Wasn’t tonight was it really? Missed one sitter and a couple of other decent chances.  
Passing was all over the place as well so not his best game. Still works his arse off so hopefully better to come.

[Rico1304]

6 hours ago, Jose Jones said:

Wasn’t tonight was it really? Missed one sitter and a couple of other decent chances.  
Passing was all over the place as well so not his best game. Still works his arse off so hopefully better to come.

He looks like he’s working because he’s out of position.   Against a team who move the ball quickly he’s more of a liability. 

[Jose Jones]

11 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

He looks like he’s working because he’s out of position.   Against a team who move the ball quickly he’s more of a liability. 

Have you listened to the pod?

[Daisy]

We should only play him if we play with two sitting deep and he plays ahead of them at the point of the triangle. 

 

Its just horrible with him on the right of a flat midfield three. Shape of the team just looks shit

[Rico1304]

3 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Have you listened to the pod?

No.  If they agree with me I will if not they are all Nazis.