Israel president Shimon Peres accuses Britain of pro-Arab bias

[M_B]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Protocol+I+of+the+Geneva+Convention

 

As of February 2020, it had been ratified by 174 states,^[6] with the United States, Israel, Iran, Pakistan, India, and Turkey being notable exceptions.

[Mudface]

7 minutes ago, M_B said:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Protocol+I+of+the+Geneva+Convention

 

As of February 2020, it had been ratified by 174 states,^[6] with the United States, Israel, Iran, Pakistan, India, and Turkey being notable exceptions.

 

Fucking shitholes. 

 

No, wait.

[Jose Jones]

1 hour ago, Strontium said:

 

Hey Zonko, I was just curious if you thought that Holocaust revisionism site was still a "good read"?

 

I know what they say about curiosity, but inquiring minds want to know, and all that!

Say what you will about Stronts, but he gives an elephant a run for its money in the memory stakes.

[cloggypop]

He keeps a spreadsheet and full data base to maintain his feuds. 

[ZonkoVille77]

10 hours ago, Strontium said:

 

Hey Zonko, I was just curious if you thought that Holocaust revisionism site was still a "good read"?

 

I know what they say about curiosity, but inquiring minds want to know, and all that!

 

You'll have to elaborate because that link is completely dead. It's also not a "Holocaust revisionism site" - it hosts many articles with opposing viewpoints which people can take or leave. You ask the US, UK or Russia who defeated the Nazis and stopped WW2 and you'll find they all think they did without help from the others. The Victor's write history as we well know. That site challenges that type of thing. So without context you're just shit-stirring, as usual. Specifically link that dead link to anything Holocaust related or go fuck yourself, Mr Clever.

 

Anything to say on this?

 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-other-tribe-israels-russian-speaking-community-and-how-it-is-changing-the-country/

 

If you're unable to comprehend that article then I'll summarise it for you: the influx of Russians; their inherent biases against Arabs, their lack of respect for international law, and their natural right-wing nature, has shaped Israel into what it is today. You can try re-write history all you like, but the genesis (hehe) of Israel’s most right-wing, murderous government, lies in the lands of the former USSR and all its various incarnations of Empire.

 

TL:DR - Russian influence has been tragically bad for Israel, and in turn the Palestinians.

 

[Jairzinho]

4 hours ago, cloggypop said:

He keeps a spreadsheet and full data base to maintain his feuds. 

 

Then pops on to the MF to feign surprise when anyone reacts. It is a quite magnificent act. 

[Strontium]

On 10/11/2023 at 08:30, ZonkoVille77 said:

You'll have to elaborate because that link is completely dead. It's also not a "Holocaust revisionism site" - it hosts many articles with opposing viewpoints which people can take or leave. You ask the US, UK or Russia who defeated the Nazis and stopped WW2 and you'll find they all think they did without help from the others. The Victor's write history as we well know. That site challenges that type of thing. So without context you're just shit-stirring, as usual. Specifically link that dead link to anything Holocaust related or go fuck yourself, Mr Clever.

 

Well, let us first address the claim that it's "not a Holocaust revisionism site". This is the front page of VHO.org as it was 5 minutes ago:

 

This is an awful lot of mentions of the Holocaust and revisionism for something that isn't a Holocaust revisionism site.

I suppose we're lucky that the site is still around at all, evidently they haven't got around to adding the contents to the CODOH website, as it says at the bottom of the page. CODOH of course being the "Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust", whose aim is to provide a "forum to those who contest the orthodox Holocaust narrative".

 

Still, it was a dead link, but fortunately the Internet Archive has saved the day there.

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20140814045930/http://vho.org/aaargh/fran/livres/RGfounding.pdf

 

A document entitled "The Founding Myths of Israeli Politics", one of which is apparently "The Myth of the Holocaust".

 

All this being the case, I'm afraid I won't be fucking myself, and I'd like an answer to my original question: which part of this was a "good read"?

[Carradona]

Strontium: No good can come from me talking about Israel

 

 

[Strontium]

I'm not talking about Israel, I'm talking about a member of the forum posting Holocaust denial.

 

Do try reading the entire post rather than scanning it for a single word, it really helps with understanding.

[No2]

Maybe a stupid question but what is the deal with Holocaust denial? I mean if you hate Israel or Jews, you can do that and still recognise the Holocaust happened. What is achieved by engaging in this nonsense? What is the end game for the deniers?

[A Red]

Recommending Holocaust denial sites as a good read. This is a wind up, someone has got the wrong end of the stick. Hopefully.

[Babb'sBurstNad]

On 10/11/2023 at 05:18, cloggypop said:

He keeps a spreadsheet and full data base to maintain his feuds. 

 

I can respect that.

 

My memory's so bad I often get the feeling I dislike someone for something, but can never recall why.

[Strontium]

29 minutes ago, A Red said:

Recommending Holocaust denial sites as a good read. This is a wind up, someone has got the wrong end of the stick. Hopefully.

 

It's okay, I've been negged for complaining about it, all is right with the world.

 

And people said that Baddiel's book was bollocks...

[Arniepie]

15 hours ago, No2 said:

Maybe a stupid question but what is the deal with Holocaust denial? I mean if you hate Israel or Jews, you can do that and still recognise the Holocaust happened. What is achieved by engaging in this nonsense? What is the end game for the deniers?

its like something that would happen post covid

[Bjornebye]

16 hours ago, No2 said:

Maybe a stupid question but what is the deal with Holocaust denial? I mean if you hate Israel or Jews, you can do that and still recognise the Holocaust happened. What is achieved by engaging in this nonsense? What is the end game for the deniers?

It’s always baffled me that as well. There is irrefutable evidence that it happened. Some right fucking cranks out there. 

[Arniepie]

6 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

It’s always baffled me that as well. There is irrefutable evidence that it happened. Some right fucking cranks out there. 

there is irrefutable evidence the globe is round but..you know

[Bjornebye]

13 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

there is irrefutable evidence the globe is round but..you know

True. 

[Carradona]

47 minutes ago, Strontium said:

 

It's okay, I've been negged for complaining about it, all is right with the world.

 

And people said that Baddiel's book was bollocks...

I negged you for your sanctimonious, patronising response.

 

I thought you didn't want your negs/reps talked about but here you are bringing them up.

[Strontium]

3 minutes ago, Carradona said:

I negged you for your sanctimonious, patronising response.

 

I thought you didn't want your negs/reps talked about but here you are bringing them up.

 

You got that response for your specious attack upon me, of course.

 

Very telling that when confronted with a person posting Holocaust revisionism, of all things, you ignore that, and instead attack the person complaining about it.

[Carradona]

1 hour ago, Strontium said:

 

You got that response for your specious attack upon me, of course.

 

Very telling that when confronted with a person posting Holocaust revisionism, of all things, you ignore that, and instead attack the person complaining about it.

I think it's insane to deny the Holocaust, genuinely baffling. 

 

I've ready plenty of books about it, I've visited the Auschwitz murder camps and can clearly say it's the most despicable event in modern history. I dont know how anyone can visit the blocks in Birkenau (with kids drawings still visible on the walls) or gas chamber sites and not come away genuinely haunted by the experience. I know I was.

 

I'm anti-murder of all innocent civilians, and I hope that comes across in the posts you regularly neg over on the Isael thread.

[Planet Origi]

Holocaust denial is like denying one is taking place right in front of our eyes in Gaza.

[ZonkoVille77]

I put the Islamaphobic, racist, cowardly, shit-stirring, sneaky fucking Russian loving cunt on ignore as its best for all involved. So I didn't see his reply to me and I wasn't going to bother with this post but here it is.

 

Few things:

1 - I can't even remember posting that now dead link. I do remember reading it but couldn't quote it if my life depended on it. I think it was banned, and if it diminished the Holocaust then rightly so. Still, even banned books contain interesting chapters. Know your enemy etc. Do I agree with it? No. Are parts of it horrific? Yes. Do I think Holocaust revisionism should be subjected to laws? Yes. I've twice visited Auschwitz, I've been to Anne Frank's house, and would never want that dark period foisted upon humanity again. Hence my reasons for backing the Palestinian cause. Sad to see people never learn from history.

 

I'll give you that one, Stronts - I'm wiser now and would never even try link something similar.Hindsight is great. It was a bad day at the office, I've made a mistake.

2 - If I've offended anyone by posting that link, name a charity and I'll donate to it. 

3- You'd think that Liverpool fans would know all about being labelled "victims", yet here we have the dog fucker acting the victim at every given opportunity. See, sad cunts never learn.

4 - The ignore function is very useful for shutting out the Islamaphobic, racist types. I'd recommend it.

 

Peace out.

Free Palestine. 

[A Red]

10 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

I put the Islamaphobic, racist, cowardly, shit-stirring, sneaky fucking Russian loving cunt on ignore as its best for all involved. So I didn't see his reply to me and I wasn't going to bother with this post but here it is.

 

Few things:

1 - I can't even remember posting that now dead link. I do remember reading it but couldn't quote it if my life depended on it. I think it was banned, and if it diminished the Holocaust then rightly so. Still, even banned books contain interesting chapters. Know your enemy etc. Do I agree with it? No. Are parts of it horrific? Yes. Do I think Holocaust revisionism should be subjected to laws? Yes. I've twice visited Auschwitz, I've been to Anne Frank's house, and would never want that dark period foisted upon humanity again. Hence my reasons for backing the Palestinian cause. Sad to see people never learn from history.

 

I'll give you that one, Stronts - I'm wiser now and would never even try link something similar.Hindsight is great. It was a bad day at the office, I've made a mistake.

2 - If I've offended anyone by posting that link, name a charity and I'll donate to it. 

3- You'd think that Liverpool fans would know all about being labelled "victims", yet here we have the dog fucker acting the victim at every given opportunity. See, sad cunts never learn.

4 - The ignore function is very useful for shutting out the Islamaphobic, racist types. I'd recommend it.

 

Peace out.

Free Palestine. 

I see you skipped the "How to write an apology" class.

 

Anyway £1,000 to ShelterBox would enable me to get over it.

[Jairzinho]

15 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

I've been to Anne Frank's house...

 

Ooh, look at me, I know all the celebs.

[Section_31]

4 hours ago, Babb'sBurstNad said:

 

I can respect that.

 

My memory's so bad I often get the feeling I dislike someone for something, but can never recall why.

 

I remember someone called me a knobhead in the pub once, it was one of two people and I didn't know which so never spoke to either of them again.