Goodfellas

[Section_31]

3 minutes ago, redheart said:

There is an explanation but it does not make sense.

 

We kill the Italian but leave alone the two Irish who helped kill and dispose of a made man.

 

Narrpp. Very weak

 

You should go to Mulberry Street and ask someone.

[Mook]

4 minutes ago, redheart said:

There is an explanation but it does not make sense.

 

We kill the Italian but leave alone the two Irish who helped kill and dispose of a made man.

 

Narrpp. Very weak

Fucking Hell, it's a true story.

[Section_31]

"Hello, is that the Gambino social club, South Bronx? I've got some queries regarding some perceived inconsistencies in your whacking policy."

 

"This guy for real? Hey asshole take a walk."

[Mook]

He'll be on the Titanic thread tomorrow, moaning about the boat sinking at the end being crap.

[Mudface]

3 minutes ago, Mook said:

He'll be on the Titanic thread tomorrow, moaning about the boat sinking at the end being crap.

Titanic got marked down by a Christian film review site for featuring 'death by drowning'.

[Pureblood]

13 minutes ago, Mook said:

He'll be on the Titanic thread tomorrow, moaning about the boat sinking at the end being crap.

That's the Alternative 'tanic Thread. What iceberg? 

[redheart]

5 hours ago, Mook said:

Fucking Hell, it's a true story.

True is an interesting word to use here.

 

"Two theories about DeSimone's alleged murder and murderer(s) exist from mob "insiders". According to mob informant Joseph "Joe Dogs" Iannuzzi, Thomas Agro claimed in 1985 that he had murdered DeSimone, as well as his brother Anthony after he turned informant. Agro also suggested murdering the eldest and last remaining brother, Robert. According to Ianuzzi, Agro would often laughingly refer to killing the third DeSimone brother, stating: "Maybe it's time to go for the DeSimone trifecta!" Another account, told by Hill in Gangsters and Goodfellas, states that Gotti himself was the assassin, although in the presence of Agro. On May 17, 2007, episode of The Howard Stern Show, Hill reaffirmed that Gotti had killed DeSimone. He also added that the death "took a long time," as Bentvena had been a personal friend of Gotti's, and he wanted DeSimone to suffer before he died. Gotti's role as the assassin was repeated in the 2015 book The Lufthansa Heist, co-written by Hill and journalist Daniel Simone,^[9] although this account claims that DeSimone's death was instantaneous from three gunshots to the head. According to Sal Polisi, DeSimone was killed by Agro (in the presence of Gotti), and that Agro slowly tortured him to death.^[15]"

 

 

[Mook]

1 hour ago, redheart said:

True is an interesting word to use here.

 

"Two theories about DeSimone's alleged murder and murderer(s) exist from mob "insiders". According to mob informant Joseph "Joe Dogs" Iannuzzi, Thomas Agro claimed in 1985 that he had murdered DeSimone, as well as his brother Anthony after he turned informant. Agro also suggested murdering the eldest and last remaining brother, Robert. According to Ianuzzi, Agro would often laughingly refer to killing the third DeSimone brother, stating: "Maybe it's time to go for the DeSimone trifecta!" Another account, told by Hill in Gangsters and Goodfellas, states that Gotti himself was the assassin, although in the presence of Agro. On May 17, 2007, episode of The Howard Stern Show, Hill reaffirmed that Gotti had killed DeSimone. He also added that the death "took a long time," as Bentvena had been a personal friend of Gotti's, and he wanted DeSimone to suffer before he died. Gotti's role as the assassin was repeated in the 2015 book The Lufthansa Heist, co-written by Hill and journalist Daniel Simone,^[9] although this account claims that DeSimone's death was instantaneous from three gunshots to the head. According to Sal Polisi, DeSimone was killed by Agro (in the presence of Gotti), and that Agro slowly tortured him to death.^[15]"

 

 

So Tommy was murdered whereas Jimmy & Henry weren't & that particular part of Goodfellas is based on true events.

[Red_or_Dead]

Phenomenally nerdy deep dive into the third best bit of the best film ever, involving mid 70s Ireland, long lost magazine articles and a mad banker turned eco-warrior.  If there's anything more up my street than this, I don't want to know about it.  Apologies if posted before.

 

https://mrgodfrey.tumblr.com/.../whaddya-want-from-me/

 

Also, some ace bits about Morrie, too.

 

 

 

 

[Arniepie]

9 hours ago, Mook said:

The Italian with all the other shit to his name took the fall for Batts' murder.

 

I can understand what you're saying but it does make sense and it's explained quite clearly in the film.

It also would have made the rest of the film a bit shit if they  had offed Henry and jimmy

[Bjornebye]

9 hours ago, Section_31 said:

 

You should go to Mulberry Street and ask someone.

Hahahahaha 

 

“quick one lad why did they whack the little guy and not Jimmy or Henry for the Batts thing?” 
 

“I’m Chinese” 

 

“knew it” 

[Remmie]

Also, while they knew Tommy was behind the Batts murder they won't necessarily know every last detail as no one else was there were they? 

[Arniepie]

3 minutes ago, Remmie said:

Also, while they knew Tommy was behind the Batts murder they won't necessarily know every last detail as no one else was there were they? 

I always wondered about that weird bit where henry was hosing down his car,and the car goes past dead slowly?

[Mook]

7 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

I always wondered about that weird bit where henry was hosing down his car,and the car goes past dead slowly?

That's the TV License people.

[Bjornebye]

You want some fucko huh 

[Lee909]

Take anything in Hills book with a fist of salt.

From what ive read over the years he has always overstated his role

 

But Burke and Hill were making alot of money in drugs and other schemes and at the end of the day thats all that really matter to them. It's likely that the heads of the Lucchese  told Gambino's that they could kill Tommy and not the other two

[redheart]

14 hours ago, Mook said:

So Tommy was murdered whereas Jimmy & Henry weren't & that particular part of Goodfellas is based on true events.

You missed the point.

 

One of those accounts indicated that he was murdered for turning informant and not killing the made mad. Hence this would explain why Jimmy and Henry were not killed.

 

Killing Tommy but not the others for killing the made man does not make sense.

 

So perhaps the film chose the latter option as it works better for the story but may not actually be true at all

[Bjornebye]

https://screenrant.com/goodfellas-movie-tommy-killed-not-henry-jimmy-reason/

 

 

 

[Bjornebye]

Ping pow 

[Babb'sBurstNad]

On 03/01/2022 at 18:42, Red_or_Dead said:

Phenomenally nerdy deep dive into the third best bit of the best film ever, involving mid 70s Ireland, long lost magazine articles and a mad banker turned eco-warrior.  If there's anything more up my street than this, I don't want to know about it.  Apologies if posted before.

 

https://mrgodfrey.tumblr.com/.../whaddya-want-from-me/

 

Also, some ace bits about Morrie, too.

 

 

 

 

Just picked up the issue of National Geographic the painting is from mentioned in that piece. Looking forward to reading that.

[Scott_M]

[littletedwest]

Madonn what a fucking blow

[Bjornebye]

Aah what a fucker. For some reason I thought he'd passed away a few years ago. RIP Paulie 

[NoelM]

 

 

 

[Section_31]

You can take 2022 and give it back to the Indians.