Russell Brand

[Pidge]

Yeah, after getting into a few films he was less obnoxious presenter and was just generally turning up on the odd thing and appeared an affable, fairly articulate person looking to use their platform to talk about social issues. He'd fundraise (good) and started building a presence as an online commentator (which was a bit like listening to a student reading private eye out loud). 

 

Since then the second part has taken over and gone a bit "free speech activist" over the years, as a narcissist he's played to the gallery and turned away from the people who would reject or question his points, the people he sees as seeking to control him. He's drifted from socialist to libertarian and I think it's partly down to him thinking of himself as an agent provocateur. 

 

But that's beside the point, he's still essentially the same guy, but he's had quite a journey from the coked up wanker who thought he was some kind of genius mix of Chris Morris and Keith Richards (the early 00s MTV phase) to now. It just seems he's been particularly manipulative to others as well, not just his own image.

 

Edit: by the essentially the same guy I mean the narcissistic element, which applies to a lot of people seeking fame. The view of that person is what needs to be reconsidered now, while I'd never thought of him as harmless, I also didn't think he was an active threat to women.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

12 minutes ago, Champ said:

My faded memory was that he came across as empathic towards marginalised people. I can’t even remember where I saw him, maybe reading his columns in the Guardian, because I never watched him on Johnathan Ross or R2 and those clips they showed on Saturday night were excruciating and I ended up turning it off.

 

I don’t know what else you want me to say 

 

 

I don't want you to say anything, relax.

[ZonkoVille77]

This isn't good and fair play to Rumble. Regardless of whether you think Brand to be guilty he hasn't been convicted by law as of yet. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/sep/21/video-platform-rumble-rejects-mps-call-to-demonetise-russell-brand

[Ezekiel 25:17]

55 minutes ago, Megadrive Man said:

 

It was probably around the time that he was helping people not get evicted or face huge rent increases.

 

I felt exactly the same as you at that time.

 

Hitler was a good artist.

[Pidge]

15 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

This isn't good and fair play to Rumble. Regardless of whether you think Brand to be guilty he hasn't been convicted by law as of yet. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/sep/21/video-platform-rumble-rejects-mps-call-to-demonetise-russell-brand

 

Yeah, there an argument that they should not monetise content relating to the allegations, and there's an argument that YouTube were free to take the action they have, but regardless, the government seeking to essentially sanction an individual without evidence or conviction is way out of line.

 

Did they write to man utd about greenwood?

[Champ]

10 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

 

Hitler was a good artist.

And Wagner wrote some good tunes

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

11 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

 

Hitler was a good artist.

Underrated, no wonder he got upset.

[Bjornebye]

19 minutes ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

 

Hitler was a good artist.

 

Jimmy Saville raised millions for charity 

[Section_31]

Hitler painting.

 

 

 

Bob Ross painting.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

4 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Hitler painting.

 

 

 

Bob Ross painting.

Bob only took an hour, how long did Adolf take?

[Section_31]

Just now, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Bob only took an hour, how long did Adolf take?

 

This is the kind of attitude that got the wee man all fucked up in the first place.

[Pidge]

[Section_31]

5 minutes ago, Pidge said:

 

Looks like someone we know.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

10 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

 

This is the kind of attitude that got the wee man all fucked up in the first place.

All he wanted was recognition and a little peace……..

[Bjornebye]

 

 

[Strontium]

36 minutes ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Bob only took an hour, how long did Adolf take?

 

He took a wheil.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

[Ezekiel 25:17]

39 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

 

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

1 hour ago, Section_31 said:

Hitler painting.

 

 

 

Bob Ross painting.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-09-21/bob-rosss-first-ever-tv-painting-goes-on-sale-for-nearly-10-million  It went for just under 10 million dollars.

 

[Jairzinho]

2 hours ago, VERBAL DIARRHEA said:

Underrated, no wonder he got upset.

 

Somewhere there would have been an art critic who had to keep their head down for a bit.

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

22 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

 

Somewhere there would have been an art critic who had to keep their head down for a bit.

If he still had one.

[Bob]

On 22/07/2013 at 12:54, Champ said:

Just spotted that he was on Desert Island Discs on Friday. Reckon it'll be worth a listen

 

BBC iPlayer - Desert Island Discs: Russell Brand

 

On 22/07/2013 at 21:32, Champ said:

 

It was. He really can't make him out. I think Kirsty was hoping for flirtatious Brand but got a much more reflective persona instead.

 

Unsurprisingly, he had a very varied selection of music

 

On 29/11/2013 at 14:00, Champ said:

In psychiatric terms its like pressure of speech on the page but his knowledge and use of language is so uplifting

 

On 26/10/2013 at 07:52, Paul said:

I think he's fucking brilliant: funny, articulate, passionate, caring and self-deprecating. That New Statesman piece is ace.

 

On 26/10/2013 at 08:00, Paul said:

 

See what I mean? Fucking brilliant. Utterly futile too, of course, but brilliant nonetheless.

 

On 04/05/2015 at 14:06, Paul said:

His passion is heartening in this day and age. Let's hope this has some sort of positive impact. I guarantee the Tories will slag him off for it though.

 

On 08/05/2015 at 18:02, Paul said:

Come on Dennis. He didn't "sell" anything and he's patently not a wanker. He's a decent, caring bloke trying to navigate through the minefield between his celebrity and his opinions. He's doing something he doesn't have to do simply because he hopes it will help make things better.

 

He might well be naive, narcissistic and flawed, but he's a nice bloke who cares about people and that is never, ever a bad thing - especially in this shitty "me, me, me" Thatcherite dystopia we all inhabit.

 

This is why the idea of digging up old opinions on people or asking "why didn't people say anything before" is a nonsense in many cased.

 

Randomly found musings from Paul and Champ in 2013 and 2015. If I could pick two people on here who I'd want to take the side of on grounds of morality or decency, they'd be in my shortlist.

 

Brand is quite obviously not a good man, but good people once thought he was.

[The-Sir]

7 hours ago, Ezekiel 25:17 said:

 

 

Bump to remind us all The Sir thought Vernon Kay was a genius.

 

What, you mean you don't?!

[Champ]

2 hours ago, Bob Spunkmouse said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is why the idea of digging up old opinions on people or asking "why didn't people say anything before" is a nonsense in many cased.

 

Randomly found musings from Paul and Champ in 2013 and 2015. If I could pick two people on here who I'd want to take the side of on grounds of morality or decency, they'd be in my shortlist.

 

Brand is quite obviously not a good man, but good people once thought he was.

Aw, Bob, you’ll have me crying in a minute.

 

PS I read those quotes with fear in my heart. I think I just about got away with it

[Anubis]

Brand on TikTok letting Christ and Buddha do some heavy lifting for him.

 

Don’t know how to embed the video, but it’s doing the rounds on Twitter.