Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Bjornebye]

Just now, Arniepie said:

Tbf I felt the real damage was done by people in his own party.

Obviously the simpletons believing the shite spread by the likes of thr mail didnt help.

I'm still waiting to find out ,how you can be a pacifist terrorist sympathiser exactly?

Too many within Labour knew that he was onto a hiding regardless so wanted to feather their own nest knowing he would be ousted. Self-serving wankers across the board. Corbyn was a threat to the tidy little life too many of them had/have and no way they were giving that up. 

[Gnasher]

29 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Too many within Labour knew that he was onto a hiding regardless so wanted to feather their own nest knowing he would be ousted. Self-serving wankers across the board. Corbyn was a threat to the tidy little life too many of them had/have and no way they were giving that up. 

Hmm, not true, not true at all. All the polls suggested Corbyn was far from being "onto a hiding" before the right wing Change UK mob swung into action. The fact they were so voracious in their opposition to the then leader of their own party shoes how much of a danger they thought he was.

 

If Corbyn had the backing of all sides of his party we would not be living under a massive 80 seat tory majority now.

[Bjornebye]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Hmm, not true, not true at all. All the polls suggested Corbyn was far from being "onto a hiding" before the right wing Change UK mob swung into action. The fact they were so voracious in their opposition to the then leader of their own party shoes how much of a danger they thought he was.

 

If Corbyn had the backing of all sides of his party we would not be living under a massive 80 seat tory majority now.

It is true because it's exactly what happened. 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

It is true because it's exactly what happened. 

It only happened in your head, look at the election result before the election where the torys won an 80 seat majority, look at the by election results previous to the change uk chicken coup, look at data where people actually went to a polling station to vote, not twitter or social media etc, but actual votes by actual people. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

It only happened in your head, look at the election result before the election where the torys won an 80 seat majority, look at the by election results previous to the change uk chicken coup, look at data where people actually went to a polling station to vote, not twitter or social media etc, but actual votes by actual people. 

What the fuck are you on about? As soon as the lies, smear and slander started it was clear Corbyn wasn't going to win the GE and many within Labour saw that and didn't back him like they should have. 

 

[Jairzinho]

Many within Labour were responsible for the lies, smears and slander.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Many within Labour were responsible for the lies, smears and slander.

 

 

[Strontium]

By this stage the list of people responsible for Corbyn's failure seems to include pretty much everyone except Corbyn.

 

Guys, move on. This doesn't do anybody any good.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

By this stage the list of people responsible for Corbyn's failure seems to include pretty much everyone except Corbyn.

 

Guys, move on. This doesn't do anybody any good.

You've got him as your avatar you clown. 

[Gnasher]

39 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

Many within Labour were responsible for the lies, smears and slander.

Exactly.. the reason we are now living under an eighty seat tory majority government is because a large section of the Labour right wing found that preferable to the socialist alternative. 

[Arniepie]

4 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Too many within Labour knew that he was onto a hiding regardless so wanted to feather their own nest knowing he would be ousted. Self-serving wankers across the board. Corbyn was a threat to the tidy little life too many of them had/have and no way they were giving that up. 

Saying that he should have those tory cunts ,who labelled him a traitor,to the fucking cleaners, 

[Sugar Ape]

If this was true not sure The Telegraph would be the place it would leak. 
 

 

 

[Jairzinho]

3 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

If this was true not sure The Telegraph would be the place it would leak. 

Broad church and all that.

[Strontium]

20 minutes ago, Sugar Ape said:

If this was true not sure The Telegraph would be the place it would leak. 
 

 

 

If anything he's just been a bit too successful.

 

Nope, not buying that at all. Silly season stuff.

[Rico1304]

This thread and ‘war in Iraq: imminent’. 

[Skidfingers McGonical]

37 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

This thread and ‘war in Iraq: imminent’. 

Something to do with an article in The Times? About a balance sheet?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

This is an interesting take. 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

I think there's a temptation for Corbyn supporters to fantasise about what Prime Minister Corbyn would have done; realistically, if we want to indulge in the utterly pointless exercise of hypothesising what Corbyn would have done, we should at least temper it with "what would Corbyn have been allowed to do".

[Arniepie]

12 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I think there's a temptation for Corbyn supporters to fantasise about what Prime Minister Corbyn would have done; realistically, if we want to indulge in the utterly pointless exercise of hypothesising what Corbyn would have done, we should at least temper it with "what would Corbyn have been allowed to do".

A constant excuse from Tories over johnsons disasters was,well imagine corbyn and abbot in charge. 

[Gnasher]

Typical Guardian journo,

 

 

[Section_31]

6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Typical Guardian journo,

 

 

I don't get it, what's one got to do with the other?

 

Also, where is the movement that supported Corbyn now, and I mean many of those who joined Labour while he was running or after he won the leadership? Have they gone to other parties?

 

I think the political landscape needs a grssroots, left wing party/movement but I can't believe it was so fragile that Corbyn no longer being labour leader has finished it off. 

[Bjornebye]

22 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Typical Guardian journo,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

17 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I don't get it, what's one got to do with the other?

 

Also, where is the movement that supported Corbyn now, and I mean many of those who joined Labour while he was running or after he won the leadership? Have they gone to other parties?

 

I think the political landscape needs a grssroots, left wing party/movement but I can't believe it was so fragile that Corbyn no longer being labour leader has finished it off. 

A lot have been booted out, the rest have been sidelined or made to feel unwelcome.

[Rushies tash]

20 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I don't get it, what's one got to do with the other?

 

Also, where is the movement that supported Corbyn now, and I mean many of those who joined Labour while he was running or after he won the leadership? Have they gone to other parties?

 

I think the political landscape needs a grssroots, left wing party/movement but I can't believe it was so fragile that Corbyn no longer being labour leader has finished it off. 

Grassroots is fine - until that movement got anywhere near power. Then the media hate campaign would begin, and the floating voter wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole. I think alot of Corbyn supporters have realised this and just fucked politics off altogether. Politics in this country is just an illusion of democracy and I can't be arsed with it.

[Gnasher]

20 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I don't get it, what's one got to do with the other?

"even labour supporters say they can't vote labour with Corbyn as leader" ....to..

 

 "it's a scandal that Boris Johnson ever got to number 10"

20 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Also, where is the movement that supported Corbyn now, and I mean many of those who joined Labour while he was running or after he won the leadership? Have they gone to other parties?

 

I think the political landscape needs a grssroots, left wing party/movement but I can't believe it was so fragile that Corbyn no longer being labour leader has finished it off.