Boris Johnson

[Ranxerox]

54 minutes ago, Vincent Vega said:

 

That cat is ace.

[Lario]

Just watched a bit of the PMQs there.

Starmer was playing him like a fiddle wasn't  he?

 

Unfortunately, the common folk will see Boris getting worked up as British fighting spirit and back him even more.

[Gnasher]

This inquiry sounds fair

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/apr/28/uk-covid-live-nnews-vaccines-boris-johnson-coronavirus-latest-updates?page=with:block-608960708f08080a7ae6e9e4#block-608960708f08080a7ae6e9e4

[Anubis]

34 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

This inquiry sounds fair

 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2021/apr/28/uk-covid-live-nnews-vaccines-boris-johnson-coronavirus-latest-updates?page=with:block-608960708f08080a7ae6e9e4#block-608960708f08080a7ae6e9e4

 

What time is he declaring martial law and a curfew?

[an tha]

13 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

What time is he declaring martial law and a curfew?

He is more likely to announce an earlier reopening of everything as a nice big distraction....

[Gnasher]

From Boris's turf, this is what Labour are up against 

 

 

[Kepler-186]

Hope they build that 3rd runway at Heathrow now, the badly informed gimps.
 

This country! Gawd bless her Maj, stone the crows, guv’nor. 

[magicrat]

Johnson is on his way . If he escapes wallpapergate there will be plenty of new scandals coming down the tracks. The Tory party backers no longer have his back is the takeaway imo.

[halewood pete]

[Captain Howdy]

They seem to be gunning for him now. I smell Murdoch

[Curly]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

From Boris's turf, this is what Labour are up against 

 

 

What a joke of a video. What’s he trying to prove there? I’d have pinned most of them to not be up to date on any current political affairs. Pointless waste of his time filing it, and my time watching it

[Bruce Spanner]

23 minutes ago, belarus said:

What a joke of a video. What’s he trying to prove there? I’d have pinned most of them to not be up to date on any current political affairs. Pointless waste of his time filing it, and my time watching it

Their vote counts as much as any other and that’s why it’s significant.

[Curly]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Their vote counts as much as any other and that’s why it’s significant.

Aside from the fact he will have spoke to loads more people added to the fact that you wouldn’t expect them to know fuck all. Or even how they actually voted. Weighted bollocks

[Bruce Spanner]

7 minutes ago, belarus said:

Aside from the fact he will have spoke to loads more people added to the fact that you wouldn’t expect them to know fuck all. Or even how they actually voted. Weighted bollocks

Not really as it’s quite significant as about two thirds of the eligible adult voters vote there and Johnson/Tories get well over half of those votes, which goes against general London trends.

 

I’d say it’s really important to find out what those people think and why?

 

And if you were of an alternative political persuasion I’d consider listening.

[Bjornebye]

Johnson eventually getting shafted was one of the most predictable things ever. All that money spent on a living room they will barely see. His birds a fucking moose as well 

[Curly]

12 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Not really as it’s quite significant as about two thirds of the eligible adult voters vote there and Johnson/Tories get well over half of those votes, which goes against general London trends.

 

I’d say it’s really important to find out what those people think and why?

 

And if you were of an alternative political persuasion I’d consider listening.

Well there you go then - those 5 people really do signify a clear message on who they voted for, if they even voted and also the general level of political awareness of others in the uk or that area. I’d guess that the 2 young lads and the foreign girl didn’t vote for starters, or even give a fuck. 
 

What’s the point in listening from labour’s point of view anyway? If they do vote based on no info, how can they be reached or influenced to make a different decision?

 

[Bruce Spanner]

3 minutes ago, belarus said:

Well there you go then - those 5 people really do signify a clear message on who they voted for, if they even voted and also the general level of political awareness of others in the uk or that area. I’d guess that the 2 young lads and the foreign girl didn’t vote for starters, or even give a fuck. 
 

What’s the point in listening from labour’s point of view anyway? If they do vote based on no info, how can they be reached or influenced to make a different decision?

 

Calling people thick and assumptions got us here and I for one am not all that pleased about where we are, so maybe, just maybe, we put efforts in to reaching these people and offering them a vision of their future which is not browbeaten indifference and resignation, just a thought...

[an tha]

This country is sadly full of tory twats and pretty much always has been.

 

Brexit has sadly created even more of them - these vermin are gonna be in power for a long time sadly.

[Curly]

1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Calling people thick and assumptions got us here and I for one am not all that pleased about where we are, so maybe, just maybe we put efforts in to reaching these people and offering them a vision of their future which is not browbeaten indifference and resignation, just a thought...

I didn’t call anyone thick did I?

 

Your last point - yeah, fine. Those 60 second Twitter released videos are shite though, whichever way they lean. Smug, leading and not at all helpful to changing people’s behaviours on anything, apart from to point fingers and jump to conclusions, furthering divides based on fuck all.

[an tha]

Labour could do with a better social media team tbh and start pumping soundbites out.

 

Momentum were really good for this and it propelled Corbyn...without the support of the media (and momentum) they really need to look at their own 'marketing'

 

One thing the tory vermin do well is messaging and positioning and controlling the narrative well.

 

Labour need to learn from them.

[Bruce Spanner]

4 minutes ago, belarus said:

I didn’t call anyone thick did I?

 

Your last point - yeah, fine. Those 60 second Twitter released videos are shite though, whichever way they lean. Smug, leading and not at all helpful to changing people’s behaviours on anything, apart from to point fingers and jump to conclusions, furthering divides based on fuck all.

‘if they even voted and also the general level of political awareness of others in the uk or that area. I’d guess that the 2 young lads and the foreign girl didn’t vote for starters, or even give a fuck.’

 

You made assumptions about their awareness, intentions and motivations.

 

From my ivory tower it looks like you’re calling them out as politically illiterate/apathetic/thick, how’s the view from yours? 

[Curly]

5 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

‘if they even voted and also the general level of political awareness of others in the uk or that area. I’d guess that the 2 young lads and the foreign girl didn’t vote for starters, or even give a fuck.’

 

You made assumptions about their awareness, intentions and motivations.

 

From my ivory tower it looks like you’re calling them out as politically illiterate/apathetic/thick, how’s the view from yours? 

I “guessed” that. As clearly stated. You assumed they were probably Tory based on where they are from, which the video led you to do. 
 

Never entered my mind to call them thick, and nor would I think that of someone who doesn’t follow politics or vote - that’s your projection. Towards them and people who vote differently than you it seems.

 

Edit - it was you calling the whole uk thick earlier as I remember now actually. Most illiterate in the developed world or something. At least you’re here to raise the mean intelligence of all us plebs though.

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, belarus said:

I “guessed” that. As clearly stated. You assumed they were probably Tory based on where they are from, which the video led you to do. 
 

Never entered my mind to call them thick, and nor would I think that of someone who doesn’t follow politics or vote - that’s your projection. Towards them and people who vote differently than you it seems.

 

Edit - it was you calling the whole uk thick earlier as I remember now actually. Most illiterate in the developed world or something. At least you’re here to raise the mean intelligence of all us plebs though.

Amazing that’s that’s what you read in to that when I was pointing out the failings of the education system through subsequent governmental failures, but you read that how you will it’s none of my concern.

 

Anyhows ‘the fact that you wouldn’t expect them to know fuck all’ is what you said, so why would they not know ‘fuck all’? 

[Curly]

7 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

Amazing that’s that’s what you read in to that when I was pointing out the failings of the education system through subsequent governmental failures, but you read that how you will it’s none of my concern.

 

Anyhows ‘the fact that you wouldn’t expect them to know fuck all’ is what you said, so why would they not know ‘fuck all’? 

That “assumption” was based on the only fact the video presented, that the people asked actually did “know fuck all” about the political subject matter, so my conclusion on that wasn’t even based on assumption, but on the information presented. Your thoughts that they were Tory and blind to their misgivings as voters were based your assumptions in regards to their suggested place of residence.

 

Edit - just read my post back. I said they couldn’t give a fuck, not that they knew fuck all.

[Bruce Spanner]

6 minutes ago, belarus said:

That “assumption” was based on the only fact the video presented, that the people asked actually did “know fuck all” about the political subject matter, so my conclusion on that wasn’t even based on assumption, but on the information presented. Your thoughts that they were Tory and blind to their misgivings as voters were based your assumptions in regards to their suggested place of residence.

 

I didn’t at any point assumed they were Tory, I only pointed out the nature of the constituency. 

A Tory ‘stronghold’ and the constituency of the prime minster and one which had significant efforts to unseat him, yet saw a vote share increase in the end. It’s pretty significant as it goes against general voting pattens in these types of area and it can’t fall back so much on the transient nature of much of London.

 

But, you know, let’s keep ignoring significant things, I’m sure hope, luck and supposition will see the worm turn...