Paul Scholes

[PaulMcC]

Massively overrated. Nowhere near the level of Gerrard.

[PaulMcC]

"Ho ho"......

 

Are you Andy Gray?

[BringbackBiscan]

Paul Scholes was world class. There would be no one arguing about that if we brought him through all those years ago. I don't see the point in denying it just cause he helped those cunts to countless league titles instead.

[moof]

Paul Scholes was world class. There would be no one arguing about that if we brought him through all those years ago. I don't see the point in denying it just cause he helped those cunts to countless league titles instead.

 

He was world class, yeah, but he isn't Xavi, Souness and Zidane combined; as some people seem to see him.

[lebron]

May have been on the "Should Gerrard be dropped thread"; someone questioned whether Scholes was as good as some (of us) were advocating (I may even have put him on a par with Gerrard in one of my posts). Someone replied that he was overrated (like here), he wasn't in the same class as Gerrard, using that he wasn't even among their top 10 players as an argument. I've always been told by my Manc mates (I unfortunately have a couple of them:-() how good he is/was, so I was surprised to see the relative non-appreciation (rivalry notwithstanding) for what is surely the best English CM (along with Gerrard who in my imo is not as much a CM) since Gascoigne.

 

While not exactly conclusive evidence (small sample size and questionable setup etc), I think the esteem with which he's held at our biggest rivals supporters gives a pretty good indication how good he has been:

 

RedCafe's top 25 footballers results - RedCafe.net

RedCafe's top 20 Manchester United players of all-time results - RedCafe.net

 

 

Granted they are online polls, and you may argue about the validity all you want (Platini at 17th in the overall list is pretty shocking:-)), just thought it was interesting to see how they rated their own players.

 

Could have linked this to the Real/Fake Ronaldo thread as well:-)

[Jairzinho]

Yeah, he's the 13th best player ever. A better central midfielder than Xavi. Herp.

[The Golden Eel]

Where's Ruud Gullit?

[Jairzinho]

Pele and Ronaldinho too high. Zico and Garrincha too low.

[TheHowieLama]

Great player - testament to the managers understanding of his resources that he and Giggs can still be vital, and effect games time and time again (in a way SG has struggled to, 5 and 6 years younger).

A really pure striker of the ball off the deck or in the air.

[bouncebrigade]

"Ah wee Scholesy, he cannae tackle".

 

- Andy Gray

[bouncebrigade]

Yeah, he's the 13th best player ever. A better central midfielder than Xavi. Herp.

 

In my arse he is.

 

IMO, Xavi is only second to Messi as the best footballer on the planet.

[Baltar]

He's a horrible ginger wanker but a class footballer. Not as good as the very best, you hear mancs saying he was up there with the likes of Zidane which is stupid. But still a top player. Better than the other dicks who played in their best midfield (Keane, Giggs, Beckham).

[The Guest]

In my arse he is.

 

IMO, Xavi is only second to Messi as the best footballer on the planet.

 

Ronaldo and Messi are a level above every other footballer including Xavi and Iniesta. They are world class obviously but Ronaldo and Messi are a notch above them. I already think they are the best two footballers of all time and when they finish their careers I think that will probably be the view held by most people.

 

In regards to Scholes I still hold the view I had at the start of this thread. He was a great goal scoring midfielder in his early days when he was at his peak. He then reinvented himself as the player he is today. It didn't happen overnight but this opinion that he has been running midfields since his early days did. He's not even that exceptional now he still relies on the other players to win the games at both ends of the field.

 

The mancs didn't need a Gerrard because they had brilliant wingers and forwards year in year out. God knows how good they would have been if Gerrard would have played for them. I reckon they would have a few more European Cups on their hands. Turn that round and say what would have happened if we would have had Scholes instead of Gerrard. I dread to think the state the club would be in now.

 

This is the first time in his career that Gerrard has had to rely on other players because he isn't doing it all himself and he hasn't got the luxury Scholes has. There is literally no comparison for me.

[Jairzinho]

In my arse he is.

 

IMO, Xavi is only second to Messi as the best footballer on the planet.

 

Agreed. Although there really is no decent way of comparing Xavi to Ronaldo.

 

If I were pushed to name the two best footballers in the world then it would be Messi and Xavi.

[Mendoza]

Manchester United footballer Paul Scholes has had his car stolen after he left its engine running while defrosting the windscreen.

 

Police said the grey Chevrolet estate had been taken from the drive of his house in Greenfield, Oldham at around 08:00 GMT on Monday.

 

A police spokesman said "inquiries to locate the car are ongoing".

 

Scholes is understood to have the car as part of the motor company's sponsorship of the Premier League club.

 

The spokesman added that Greater Manchester Police had issued warnings about "ice bandits - offenders who target vehicles left outside houses, early in the morning, with the engine running while the owner returns to the house".

 

"Motorists may be tempted to leave their vehicle with the engine running while they go inside to stay in the warm - however, it only takes a few seconds to steal a car when keys have been left in the ignition," he said.

 

BBC News - Manchester United's Paul Scholes has car stolen

 

 

According to reports he tried to tackle the thieves, but was way too late.

[The Guest]

I thought this was brilliant by him.

 

[Magic Sponge]

The little scamp.

[General Dryness]

Horrible little ginger cunt.

 

I dislike him for the fact that the picture of him with his teeny tiny ginger cock out once seen, cannot be unseen.

[PaulMcC]

MMassively over rated.

[Brownie]

One of the great midfielders for me, the mancs are jammy bastards to have had him.

[shanks69]

i don't mind scholes plenty of players can learn from his attitude,just turns up plays then goes home to his family no big time charlie no bad publicity.i also think although i maybe wrong he doesn't have an agent he just sits downs sorts out a contract and then gets a lawyer just to check it out.

[brucespanner]

Met him a few years back, friend of a friend, incredibly small and incredibly ginger, like proper ginger, bulling material ginger, weird looking cunt.

 

Damn good footballer, plays for them though ergo a shitcunt.

[greenoak]

It was a Chevrolet a vile car esp for a multi millionaire to have to drive. Probably did it on purpose and then drove his Audi R8 to work once it was out of the drive

[FanchesterCity]

Very good player, can pass a ball, and has a level head.

Not in the same league as Gerrard, but in a far better team.

 

You can deduct 25% from most players reputations if they in a highly dominant team. That's not to say they aren't fabulous players, just that a quality pass or tackle from a player in a top team will be deemed 'phenomenal', whilst a mid table team will be called 'decent'.

 

In the old days, Scholes had a fair shot on him, and used to score a few in the style of Lampard and Gerrard. But he stopped doing that many years ago (arguably because United didn't need him to).

 

If Viera, Gerrard, Keane, Lampard and Scholes we're lining up to be chosen for a 5-a-side game.... I'd be handing Scholesy the gloves.

[Jairzinho]

Poor man's Valeron.