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I wouldn’t put sophisticated doping past a lot of premier league teams. Milner was practically finished at City and now covers more ground than players ten years younger than him. Fabinho looked complete pap when he joined the team, hugely off the pace, then reappeared looking absolutely physically dominant. Robertson showed nothing like the form he has now at Hull, now he’s out pacing some of the fastest wingers in the league. I could understand his positioning or his delivery improving with better coaching but where did he get rapid pace from? Even Oxlade-Chamberlain Chamberlain went from fancy inconsistent winger at Arsenal to absolute machine before his injury. Of course it could be down to Klopp’s coaching but their injury record this season has been outstanding. They’ve been playing the same group of about 14 players every single game often three in a week and the level hasn’t dipped once. They’ve barely had a muscle twinge at all, Firmino’s recently probably being the only significant one all season. In the semi final Barca had a whole week off in between games whilst Liverpool had an away trip yet even though Barca obviously played badly they couldn’t get near Liverpool at all at any point in 90 minutes. The likes of Alexander Arnold has gone from a decent academy player to probably the premier leagues foremost right back (again equipped with unbelievable pace and power). Gomez has gone from a decent kid to looking on the same level as Van Dijk (who incidentally seems to have put his injury worries permanently behind him) It’s not just that lot though, I’d be amazed if City weren’t at it as well and maybe Spurs too. The intensity that City can reach with weaker slower players like the Silvas and Fernandinho defies belief sometimes. There was suspicion around the Leicester team in their title run and even the other night at the Etihad they ran City into the ground. The physical level of the premier league is now so far beyond the rest of Europe it’s ridiculous. A bit like when Chris Froome pedalled away from the best climbers in the world in the tour de France without even getting out of his saddle, or when Geraint Thomas not even a natural climber wins the tour, there’s no proof available but you can’t help but wonder. There’s been doping controversies in every single sport other than the one with the most money swilling about in it but is amazingly completely clean. Apparently. Surely the biggest Doping scandal is the fucking dopey gobshites wearing other teams shirts desperately hoping a team you think are your rivals but are in reality light years ahead of you will lose a game of football you have no hope of ever competing in.

The face on the old cunt with the white beard! He is singing it but his heart isn't really in it. It's like he has just found his mate in bed with his wife and is relived that is not the Red Shite one

Or fucking have one ... for the night obviously

and in all seriousness this is the problem.I have no issue with the ability of our non VvD Center halfs other than none can be relied on to consistently remain free from injury or whatever the fuck Lovren has this week

You are allowed to hold two completely contrary views at the same time you know. That's what makes posting on TLW such fun.

No offence Sir Rog but Jimmy Case won more European Cups than England caps and how many did Alan Kennedy get? The region you played in mattered more than how good you or the team you played for happened to be. The players that statue represent where some of the finest to have played the game. Unfortunately for them like JC and AK the FA considered them to be from the wrong part of the Country.

Whatever you're on mate you need to give it a fucking break. The only people highlighting the utter fucking corruption on FIFA, UEFA, and the English Premier league and Football league (Look at what has happened to Bolton) are none MSM writers. The silence from Journalists or more accurately the 'follow the party line and don't upset the gravy train' excuse for what passes for journalism has never been more prevalent. There are very few exceptions to this and while clickbait is prevalent among newsnow it also reigns supreme on the Liverpool Echo. There is a reason why there is a growth in fans following 'Fan sites' like TLW, and Redmen TV, TAW etc because we get to see and read thoughtful, considered and relevant content about the team we Love. I am sick of bullshit 'narrative' which is all you get from MSM and TV. Look at this young lady who is a passionate Bolton Wanderers fan describing the utter fucking disgrace that is the regulation of ownership of teams in the EFL. Tell me where you will see a better, accurate or passionate summation of what has happened at Bolton? She is 18 years old. I suppose you would class her as a minimum wage clickbait kid ?

Clearly not enough

Well i for one cannot wait for VAR. Anything that helps out the geriatric knob jockeys who are currently refereeing in the Premier League. Call me biased but i think it will be good for us as we have been on the wrong side of more shite (ok biased) decisions then i could throw a hat at.

So did Joe Cole I would punt it on- Brandt 25M Sessegnon 30M (i would like to see what Klopp could do with him given a year or so) Maybe Werner Or Richarlson (as i think he is pretty good and wasted with the BS and imagine the hysterics! it would be a thing of beauty)

Might i make a small suggestion Angie...

And this actually happened unlike the shit that deranged arsewipe was spewing

Yes i always find that if you get the odd 472,000 people or so together in the one place you cannot keep anything quiet

Very Very sad news. Had the pleasure of meeting him on a few occasions and he signed a lovely picture for my dear old Dad and listened to his boring story's of his days watching the Reds from the Early 40's with good grace and charm.