Coronavirus

[Scott_M]

19 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Why have we allowed thousands of Atletico fans over when they're not even allowed in their own stadium? 

The stadium isn’t the issue as sunlight & fresh air kill it. It’s the planes over, bars & hotels which are more of an issue.

[Butch]

Cunt toilet roll stockers is the real problem here. Cunts 

[Scott_M]

19 minutes ago, johnsusername said:

Yep. Huge number of nurses and doctors have school age kids so what would happen if they closed schools? Who would look after the kids? 

Same as they would most likely have to in the Easter Holidays anyway - find alternative arrangements. 
 

Also, it’ll be a lock down etc. No travel unless an emergency, WFH, no schools... all this self contain stuff. 
 

Although not perfect, it’s the least bad solution.

[Elite]

3 minutes ago, Butch said:

Cunt toilet roll stockers is the real problem here. Cunts 

That bottom video had me in stitches.

[Strontium]

16 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yeah it means there's zero real effort to track and stop it spreading, so there could be a huge outbreak and then what? Still not testing? I wonder if this is how Italy and other places got so bad. Maybe it costs too much money for the Tory psychopaths to be happy with if these figures are right :

 

 

 

 

It should come as no surprise to anyone that those figures aren't right.

 

£46m is the additional sum from the international development budget announced last week to combat the virus on an international scale, for developing a vaccine etc, which brings the UK total commitment to £91m.

 

Whereas the figure for eg Ireland of 3 billion euros constitutes domestic spending on extra health funding, sick pay, and so on.

[Red Phoenix]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It should come as no surprise to anyone that those figures aren't right.

 

£46m is the additional sum from the international development budget announced last week to combat the virus on an international scale, for developing a vaccine etc, which brings the UK total commitment to £91m.

 

Whereas the figure for eg Ireland of 3 billion euros constitutes domestic spending on extra health funding, sick pay, and so on.

 

Ah ok, thanks. The Tories are that bad that I wasn't that surprised at the thought of it being right. I suppose if it was a more normal functioning government I'd have been more amazed and actually checked further.

[Butch]

[Stickman]

I see the usual suspects Dan Hodges, Toby Young, Harry Coles former S*n hack Kevin Schofield are tweeting away slagging the faceless left off for having the temerity to not show too much sympathy to Nadine Dorries...

 

Meanwhile Daily Telegraph editor Jeremy Warner can write this with nothing said

 

[Scooby Dudek]

8 minutes ago, Stickman said:

I see the usual suspects Dan Hodges, Toby Young, Harry Coles former S*n hack Kevin Schofield are tweeting away slagging the faceless left off for having the temerity to not show too much sympathy to Nadine Dorries...

 

Meanwhile Daily Telegraph editor Jeremy Warner can write this with nothing said

 

The same people who all advocate freedom of speech condemning people for saying something they don't like.

[skend04]

13 minutes ago, Butch said:

 

Haha, I had this exact conversation on Monday. A guy in the office was talking about people stocking up on toilet rolls and then mentioned how he used to work on sites with Indians who would wash their bums after a No.2 back in the day. Whilst others in the office looked a bit put off by the thought they all turned to me when I said "we still do".

[Red Phoenix]

1 hour ago, Michael Winstanley said:

Tell it to those who fucking die whilst waiting for the authoritarian oversight.

also can you have an idea of how shit will go down if you have a shortage of services, and people from immigrant communities are up for treatment against yer “ethnic white English” that’s a fucking tinder pot waiting to go off.

  

 

Just going back to this again : when I said I'm feeling more optimistic it doesn't mean I'm relaxed or happy about it. It's fucking infuriating. I mean I'm trying to have some hope that it's not going to be left to spread around the entire population. I'm not optimistic about anything going smoothly, like I said I think the only stage where these fucking idiots in government will take this seriously is when health services are overrun. That's clearly not going to be good and if/when it happens it's going to be a nightmare.

 

But what other option do we have? We're dealing with Boris Johnson here and the Tories. The only way they'll do something is when they're forced to, but if/when we reach that point maybe they'll start taking whatever measures needed to deal with this.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

47 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Yeah it means there's zero real effort to track and stop it spreading, so there could be a huge outbreak and then what? Still not testing? I wonder if this is how Italy and other places got so bad. Maybe it costs too much money for the Tory psychopaths to be happy with if these figures are right :

 

 

 

 

Typical Tory bastards. If Iran or some other country kick off though they'll earmark Billions for weapons/troops. Billy Bragg was right with his lyrics for 'Between the Wars.' 

'I paid the union and as times got harder
I looked to the government to help the working man
But they brought prosperity down at the armoury
We're arming for peace, me boys
Between the wars'

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

5 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

Just going back to this again : when I said I'm feeling more optimistic it doesn't mean I'm relaxed or happy about it. It's fucking infuriating. I mean I'm trying to have some hope that it's not going to be left to spread around the entire population. I'm not optimistic about anything going smoothly, like I said I think the only stage where these fucking idiots in government will take this seriously is when health services are overrun. That's clearly not going to be good and if/when it happens it's going to be a nightmare.

 

But what other option do we have? We're dealing with Boris Johnson here and the Tories. The only way they'll do something is when they're forced to, but if/when we reach that point maybe they'll start taking whatever measures needed to deal with this.

So the optimism is purely for a personal standpoint? Ye’ve let yerself down there RP, that’s not the way of the socialist / anarcho-syndicalist.

[Red Phoenix]

4 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

Typical Tory bastards. If Iran or some other country kick off though they'll earmark Billions for weapons/troops. Billy Bragg was right with his lyrics for 'Between the Wars.' 

'I paid the union and as times got harder
I looked to the government to help the working man
But they brought prosperity down at the armoury
We're arming for peace, me boys
Between the wars'

 

Agreed with that but as Stronts pointed out a few posts back that was my error and those figures in the tweet aren't right, sorry.

 

36 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It should come as no surprise to anyone that those figures aren't right.

 

£46m is the additional sum from the international development budget announced last week to combat the virus on an international scale, for developing a vaccine etc, which brings the UK total commitment to £91m.

 

Whereas the figure for eg Ireland of 3 billion euros constitutes domestic spending on extra health funding, sick pay, and so on.

 

[clockspeed]

 

21 minutes ago, Stickman said:

I see the usual suspects Dan Hodges, Toby Young, Harry Coles former S*n hack Kevin Schofield are tweeting away slagging the faceless left off for having the temerity to not show too much sympathy to Nadine Dorries...

 

Meanwhile Daily Telegraph editor Jeremy Warner can write this with nothing said

 

If the Tory government watch what they spend on the response the finances could be better off. Be under no illusions there will have been discussions around the final paragraph of the piece you quoted along the lines of "about time those with underlying problems were removed from the population they have been a strain on the NHS for too long "

[Jairzinho]

38 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

It should come as no surprise to anyone that those figures aren't right.

 

£46m is the additional sum from the international development budget announced last week to combat the virus on an international scale, for developing a vaccine etc, which brings the UK total commitment to £91m.

 

Whereas the figure for eg Ireland of 3 billion euros constitutes domestic spending on extra health funding, sick pay, and so on.

Yes, and we're pumping in an extra 18 billion every year on the NHS so I don't envisage any problems.

[clockspeed]

9 minutes ago, Pistonbroke said:

 

Typical Tory bastards. If Iran or some other country kick off though they'll earmark Billions for weapons/troops. Billy Bragg was right with his lyrics for 'Between the Wars.' 

'I paid the union and as times got harder
I looked to the government to help the working man
But they brought prosperity down at the armoury
We're arming for peace, me boys
Between the wars'

Ah but we have an primary obligation to look after friendly tyrannical states in the middle East ! 

[Bjornebye]

21 minutes ago, Scooby Dudek said:

The same people who all advocate freedom of speech condemning people for saying something they don't like.

Lots of people like that around. That showbiz cunt from the s*n newspaper was trending yesterday. It’s come out that he said to Philip Schofield that you either come out as gay, give me the exclusive and have your day first or it’s going to come out anyway. Someone on twitter called him a cunt or something for it and the cheeky bastard had the nerve to send them a DM saying they shouldn’t say that as they have hurt his feelings. Same cunt is accused of handing Caroline flack the rope via the media shit she got then claimed she was his friend when she killed herself. Too many people can give it out but absolutely can not take it back. Maybe they should shut the fuck up, stay in their box and also keep the fabrications if the truth to suit their own agenda to themselves unless they are able to take the stick back or actually confront reality when they get proven wrong and not just ignore the issue and bring something else up. Lowest of the low. The hypocrisy is staggering. 
 

 

[Red Phoenix]

2 minutes ago, Michael Winstanley said:

So the optimism is purely for a personal standpoint? Ye’ve let yerself down there RP, that’s not the way of the socialist / anarcho-syndicalist.

 

How can it be personal? The hope of it not spreading through the entire population? It could kill over a million people. I don't think there's any other way they'll deal with this. I could say I'm optimistic about them dealing with this shortly without health services collapsing but I'd be lying, I don't think they care unless it personally affects them. Or I could resign myself to the thought of it just getting worse and us not being able to control it but fuck giving up hope like that.

 

I want them to be outed for the scum they are if this gets worse and then they should be forced to deal with it. Then I hope we never forget what they've done here because it's already in the stage where it will have cost a lot of lives. It's spreading unchecked and they're not even testing properly. They're probably more bothered about raking in cash from the economy before a potential lockdown situation than they are about lives.

[Anubis]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Even though I hope we eventually start dealing with this properly this is insane. It means we're not testing properly at all and could be heading towards a massive outbreak, it might already be happening but nobody is checking :

 

 

 

How about this is an affected area? We could have thousands of cases at this point for all we know, but nobody is testing properly.

I think you’re going to have to accept that unless you’re suffering badly they’ll just have most people self-isolate without testing as it won’t matter if it’s Coronavirus or the cold, it’ll have passed within 14 days. That way the medical services won’t be overwhelmed.

[Jose Jones]

Turns out the husband of one of my wife’s team at work has it. Which probably means my missus’ mate has got it too (she’s been tested, no result yet).  

Looks like there’s a slight chance I could be in quarantine shortly.

Anyone heard from @moof lately or has he died?

[Anubis]

2 minutes ago, Jose Jones said:

Anyone heard from @moof lately or has he died?

Last I’d heard he’d challenged it to a straightener outside County Rd KFC.

[Red Phoenix]

10 minutes ago, Anubis said:

I think you’re going to have to accept that unless you’re suffering badly they’ll just have most people self-isolate without testing as it won’t matter if it’s Coronavirus or the cold, it’ll have passed within 14 days. That way the medical services won’t be overwhelmed.

 

That's the best thing for health services and staff obviously, what bothers me is looking at this figure of *checks* 382 people in the country that currently have it. No fucking way. It could be thousands for all we know and there's no effort to try and track any of this down to sources.

 

Maybe looking at what China and Korea have done with regards to monitoring this has put my hopes up and I need to come back down to reality a bit, or a lot.

 

Maybe we'll only find out when the worst cases start flooding hospitals.

[johnsusername]

1 hour ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

 

Because we're not hysterical fannies?

Speak for yourself I'm on DEFCON 2 here. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Boris Johnson will not be tested for Coronavirus as he has no symptoms. 

 

Sigh! Our response to this seems so disjointed. He could still be an asymptomatic carrier and require isolation.