Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Bjornebye]

10 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Plus, having lawyers rip into you day in and day out with things that can be twisted into looking very dodgy over the years isn’t the best thing to experience, and then there’s the possibility that he loses, which isn’t the same thing as being proven as antisemitic but would be twisted as such. He layers would have likely warned him off the entire thing a long time ago. 

Or he just can’t be arsed because he’s above the lying parasites? 

[Rico1304]

52 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Which means it's counter-productive to go on Twitter and invite right wing trolls to repeat their lies with impunity. 

Oh I don’t know. Rachel Riley has done ok against those who’ve libelled her. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

19 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Or he just can’t be arsed because he’s above the lying parasites? 

Well, if it’s that the case then it’s a hell of a high road to take. 

[sir roger]

27 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Oh I don’t know. Rachel Riley has done ok against those who’ve libelled her. 

She got awarded £10k in damages after dragging through a case for 2 years and had the judge point out she was being deliberately provocative. Well done her.

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, sir roger said:

She got awarded £10k in damages after dragging through a case for 2 years and had the judge point out she was being deliberately provocative. Well done her.

26 words too many.  I think you could have said ‘she won’. Why would you seem to be upset that justice was done? Unless…

[sir roger]

There are wins and wins.

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, sir roger said:

There are wins and wins.

There are. There are wins in the High Court that are appealed and the judgment upheld.  
 

This is a woman from a persecuted ethnic minority winning a libel case against someone from a rich and entitled family.  Surely a cause for celebration but you seem less enthusiastic?  
 

I think in this very thread it’s acknowledged that winning a libel case in the U.K. is hard so why would you not celebrate?  

[sir roger]

Not sure why I should automatically assume that one person is better than another just because of their bank balance, and while I know less than nothing about Murray, I know enough about Riley to know she is an evil, attention-seeking, provocative piece of shit.

[Arniepie]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Plus, having lawyers rip into you day in and day out with things that can be twisted into looking very dodgy over the years isn’t the best thing to experience, and then there’s the possibility that he loses, which isn’t the same thing as being proven as antisemitic but would be twisted as such. He layers would have likely warned him off the entire thing a long time ago. 

So he can't win really then can he?

The media can smear him with impunity and there is fuck all he can do

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

So he can't win really then can he?

The media can smear him with impunity and there is fuck all he can do

 

He can fight it in court, and he could win. That’s a thing that he can do. However, he will know that he’d have every thing he has ever said dragged into the public eye, and if he lost then that’s game over. Same rules for everyone. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

13 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

So he can't win really then can he?

The media can smear him with impunity and there is fuck all he can do

 

Basically, the right-wing cunts can go to court and say "In my reasonable opinion, a person who turns a blind eye to anti-Semitism and shares a platform with anti-Semites is also an anti-Semite; also, from what I've read and seen in multiple media reports, Jeremy Corbyn did those things and therefore my opinion is reasonable."

 

Doesn't matter whether it's bollocks; what matters is whether it's a winning defence.

[Numero Veinticinco]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Basically, the right-wing cunts can go to court and say "In my reasonable opinion, a person who turns a blind eye to anti-Semitism and shares a platform with anti-Semites is also an anti-Semite; also, from what I've read and seen in multiple media reports, Jeremy Corbyn did those things and therefore my opinion is reasonable."

 

Doesn't matter whether it's bollocks; what matters is whether it's a winning defence.

Yeah, then there’s ‘opinion’ on things he has said, for example the ‘English irony’ comment. Now I don’t think that’s antisemitic and I don’t even think it’s reasonable to hold that opinion, but is it unthinkable that somebody can honestly hold that opinion, of course not. So, going to court and likely losing on one of these things isn’t a great option for Corbyn. 

[Bjornebye]

Remember when Rachel Riley said she doesn’t look like a typical Jew? Imagine if Corbyn came out with something like that. 
 

She’s a horrible lying cunt of a human. 

[Gnasher]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Which means it's counter-productive to go on Twitter and invite right wing trolls to repeat their lies with impunity. 

Maybe. 

[skend04]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

Remember when Rachel Riley said she doesn’t look like a typical Jew? Imagine if Corbyn came out with something like that. 
 

She’s a horrible lying cunt of a human. 

Yeah, I just don't get it. What did she think a typical Jew looked like when she didn't know she was a Jew?

 

The Running of the Jew from Borat comes to mind.

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

15 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Yeah, then there’s ‘opinion’ on things he has said, for example the ‘English irony’ comment. Now I don’t think that’s antisemitic and I don’t even think it’s reasonable to hold that opinion, but is it unthinkable that somebody can honestly hold that opinion, of course not. So, going to court and likely losing on one of these things isn’t a great option for Corbyn. 

That "English irony" thing is a classic of the genre. 

 

The media & anti-Socialist politicians painted it as anti-Semitic, pretending that he was making a generalised point about all British Jews.

 

Richard Millet, one of the three 

blokes he was talking about, sued Corbyn for defamation, on the basis that it was obviously him that Corbyn was specifically referring to.

[Gnasher]

11 hours ago, Creator Supreme said:

Fucks it got to do with you, you'll vote Tory anyway!

 

And yes I'm well aware it's got fuck all to do with me either!

No all changed now. Rico's a fully pledged tweed jacket and sandal wearing Liberal whilst Stronts has turned into a full on lefty after listening to Keir Starmer being interviewed on Channel 4 where the Labour leader outlined his vision of joining forces with the Lib Dems and violently throwing every tory into the sea, then increasing the price of plastic bags to 20p. Stronts can now be seen strolling around Liverpool with a copy of the Morning Star hanging out of his back pocket, Billy Bragg playing on his ipod and referring to the people he knows as 'comrade'.

[Strontium]

1 hour ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That "English irony" thing is a classic of the genre. 

 

The media & anti-Socialist politicians painted it as anti-Semitic, pretending that he was making a generalised point about all British Jews.

 

Richard Millet, one of the three blokes he was talking about, sued Corbyn for defamation, on the basis that it was obviously him that Corbyn was specifically referring to.

 

FWIW, I'm pretty sure it's the comments about Millett being disruptive and abusive that he's being sued for, not for claiming that an English Jew didn't understand English irony.

[Section_31]

Riley gives me very confused feelings, yes she's vile but would I still eat Pot Noodle out of her bottom? Almost certainly. Testicles be damned.

[Numero Veinticinco]

2 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Riley gives me very confused feelings, yes she's vile but would I still eat Pot Noodle out of her bottom? Almost certainly. Testicles be damned.

Is it strange that whether I find this disgusting or not is wholly dependent on what flavour of pot noodle it is?

[Section_31]

6 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Is it strange that whether I find this disgusting or not is wholly dependent on what flavour of pot noodle it is?

Chicken and mushroom. 

[Captain Turdseye]

14 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Chicken and mushroom. 

You’re fucking old school, man. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

47 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Chicken and mushroom. 

That’s a negative, Ghost Rider. 

[Arniepie]

3 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

He can fight it in court, and he could win. That’s a thing that he can do. However, he will know that he’d have every thing he has ever said dragged into the public eye, and if he lost then that’s game over. Same rules for everyone. 

But it's not really is it?,the  media were ready to run on a story on that fat lying cunt(the bj one)and hey presto,it's gets pulled and never sees the light of day again.

I'd say the disparity between johnson and corbyn, in how they were both treated in the media, is the best example of how the game is loaded in this country, and what Labour is up against.

[Arniepie]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Remember when Rachel Riley said she doesn’t look like a typical Jew? Imagine if Corbyn came out with something like that. 
 

She’s a horrible lying cunt of a human. 

The best  one was baddiel saying how he pronounced a name

The fact that this was toolk serously proved sanity had well and truly left the building.