Jordan Henderson, MBE: World Club Cup, European Cup, European Super Cup, Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup & Charity Shield Winning Captain of Liverpool (and massive sellout)

[VladimirIlyich]

He'd be much better in the Wijnaldum role for me, and probably create more than Gini does in that position too. I don't really know why Klopp has persisted with him as the deeper player, as he's not great at reading the play or dictating the play. He's good at bombing around, pressing and the occasional through ball. If we had an Alonso or Hamann type sat deeper and Hendo as a box to box player I think it would be better for the team and him.

I think the box to box role was exactly how it was imagined Henderson would play once established here but our lack of midfield quality has forced a square peg into a round hole by him playing more as a DM,but not a genuine one. I suppose Klopp is trying to prioritise signings knowing he'll never get all his signings in one go.

[Rotpeter]

I think the box to box role was exactly how it was imagined Henderson would play once established here but our lack of midfield quality has forced a square peg into a round hole by him playing more as a DM,but not a genuine one. I suppose Klopp is trying to prioritise signings knowing he'll never get all his signings in one go.

 

Yeah, it definitely reeks of making the best of a bad job

[Pureblood]

He's doing fine where he is.  He doesn't need to play in Wijnaldum's position, he doesn't need to make more forward passes, his reading of the game is fine and y'all are a bunch of back seat managers thinking you can out-Klopp Klopp.  

[Mr T]

He's bang average and epitomises where we are now as a club.

[billypilgrimnz]

He's doing fine where he is. He doesn't need to play in Wijnaldum's position, he doesn't need to make more forward passes, his reading of the game is fine and y'all are a bunch of back seat managers thinking you can out-Klopp Klopp.

He needs to be playing for another team.

[Pureblood]

Nah.

[magicrat]

Henderson is a skillful footballer that has all the tools except the one between the ears, 

Great passing ability, stamina and capable of stunning strikes as we saw at the Emirates last season, He seems to me to lack confidence in himself as a leader and as a player that can change games. We get an endless diet of square passes and safe options, You see him on the ball sometimes and he almost looks paralysed with indecision . Keep hoping a spark will light his fire but can't see it happening now, 

[Baltar]

Henderson would be absolutely fine if he had 2 world class midfielders playing next to him. Unfortunately he doesn't and looks pretty average being the main man. He's a good supporting actor, but poor as the lead.

[aRdja]

he does it several times a game.

 

Just did a bit of whoscored research, Henderson is way down the list of CMs who get dispossessed most often per game... Sanches, Pogba, Puncheon, Allen, Merino make up the top 5.

[Jairzinho]

Hadn't really noticed him being dispossessed a lot. Often he chips it aimlessly into the box or knocks it five yards back to a centre back.

[aRdja]

Hadn't really noticed him being dispossessed a lot. Often he chips it aimlessly into the box or knocks it five yards back to a centre back.

Yup.. he plays within his limitations.

[Elite]

I bet 95% of the Chess games he plays end in a stalemate.

[Hades]

He plays like a Sunderland player with the athleticism of an elite player.

[Rotpeter]

He switches play too slow, and doesn't read the game real well.  But these skills generally come late to englishmen (excuse, the generalization), alas.  Still their skills that continue to improve w/age, so as long as his body holds/gait out...

[stringvest]

Just did a bit of whoscored research, Henderson is way down the list of CMs who get dispossessed most often per game... Sanches, Pogba, Puncheon, Allen, Merino make up the top 5.

 

 

He doesn't get dispossessed.  That's because he shits himself when he is approached by an opposition player then panics and plays it back hurriedly to a defender who is then in even more trouble from the advancing opposition.   I'm amazed not many have picked up on this, because it happens with depressing regularity.  I've never seen anyone as frightened in possession when about to be challenged as our Jordie.

[billypilgrimnz]

Did we miss him?

 

(Genuine question - I didn't see the game)

[Herp McDerp]

Did we miss him?

 

(Genuine question - I didn't see the game)

 

No.

[Carvalho Diablo]

Mr 4 out of 10 had one of his better games today.

[Rotpeter]

Did we miss him?

 

(Genuine question - I didn't see the game)

 

We played a completely different style and formation.   There was no-one doing what he usually does because the game plan didn't call for it.  Can and gini were both sitting mane and ox were pretty deep and the full backs too, so the defensive 3rd & midfield had much better coverage than usual and there was more space to counterattack into without a lot of elaborate 'preparing the offense'.

 

So to answer: no, but more because of tactics/formation tweak to suit the players playing, rather than quality issues.

[Em City]

Interesting video.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nwXpoQjfI

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

Strap yourselves in chaps it's going to be a bumpy ride!

[Pureblood]

Like bollocks am I watching that.

[stringvest]

Who the fuck bothers to make videos like that? Do these idiots think that context-free 5 second clips of players doing bad stuff proves their case? Jesus wept.

 

Having said that, Henderson is a shithouse with the ball.

[TheHowieLama]

You had me at Lucas...

 

then - that goes knowhere.

 

Knowhere Man, don't worry....

[The Golden Eel]

The absolute state of this cunt in the last half hour of that game, wearing the armband too. Complete shithouse