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We should have a great striker but we don't and that is Kenny's fault.

 

Ignoring the tedious rhetoric of the rest of the post, if I may, because I'd like to again highlight that I have never disagreed with this. It is his error that we replaced Torres with Carroll. Others will have had a say in it but ultimately it was his final decision.

 

You are, like many and quite laughably I do like to add, don't seem to be able to find the difference between a bad signing and one that hasn't fully worked out. There is no line that defines a player between being a good one and a bad one, you know? There is that bit inbetween.

 

I bet you was one you bitched and moaned for Lucas, Skrtel et al to be fucked off years ago because they 'was shite'. Whereas, as usual, those in charge know far more than you are ever likely to do.

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some fans just dont want to see kenny has wasted the best part of 80 million on utter shite. picks the wrong team and he,s tactics leave a lot to be desired.while he,s press conference,s are getting worst by the week.fuck,s sake we cant beat a villa youth team i await the usual response of being a mong and a sky, generation supporter who is spoiled.

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Ignoring the tedious rhetoric of the rest of the post, if I may, because I'd like to again highlight that I have never disagreed with this. It is his error that we replaced Torres with Carroll. Others will have had a say in it but ultimately it was his final decision.

 

You are, like many and quite laughably I do like to add, don't seem to be able to find the difference between a bad signing and one that hasn't fully worked out. There is no line that defines a player between being a good one and a bad one, you know? There is that bit inbetween.

 

I bet you was one you bitched and moaned for Lucas, Skrtel et al to be fucked off years ago because they 'was shite'. Whereas, as usual, those in charge know far more than you are ever likely to do.

 

What are you bringing up Skrtel and Lucas for? Talk about flailing around.

 

Stick to the point which is Andy Carroll and the £35M we layed out for him. You claim if we had a good striker we'd be up there with Arsenal. I suggest we wasted £35M on Andy Carroll and then a whole lot more on another selection of average players (multiple mistakes) so we shouldn't caveat our poor performances with "if only we had a good striker" because we should have one. As well as a good winger, central midfielder etc.

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What are you bringing up Skrtel and Lucas for? Talk about flailing around.

 

Sorry, thought you had the ability to slightly deviate from a subject to continually prove the same point.

 

The point was that you say Henderson is shite whereas those at the club seem to think he has talent. I'm prepared to trust their judgement over yours as with the likes of Skrtel and Lucas, they generally know more than you do. Or I do, for that matter.

 

 

Stick to the point which is Andy Carroll and the £35M we layed out for him. You claim if we had a good striker we'd be up there with Arsenal. I suggest we wasted £35M on Andy Carroll and then a whole lot more on another selection of average players (multiple mistakes) so we shouldn't caveat our poor performances with "if only we had a good striker" because we should have one. As well as a good winger, central midfielder etc.

 

When have I tried to mask our 'poor' performances behind 'if only we had a good striker'?

 

I'm saying that if we had one, which I repeatedly have said that we should for our outlay, we would be in and around that area of the table. This to me, at least, is a reason not to kick off to fuckery about every little thing that hasn't been boss this season.

 

And that these other 'average players' you bang on about wouldn't be deemed as so because they really aren't that bad as you like to state.

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Sorry, thought you had the ability to slightly deviate from a subject to continually prove the same point.

 

The point was that you say Henderson is shite whereas those at the club seem to think he has talent. I'm prepared to trust their judgement over yours as with the likes of Skrtel and Lucas, they generally know more than you do. Or I do, for that matter.

 

 

 

 

When have I tried to mask our 'poor' performances behind 'if only we had a good striker'?

 

I'm saying that if we had one, which I repeatedly have said that we should for our outlay, we would be in and around that area of the table. This to me, at least, is a reason not to kick off to fuckery about every little thing that hasn't been boss this season.

 

And that these other 'average players' you bang on about wouldn't be deemed as so because they really aren't that bad as you like to state.

 

Deviation from the subject is usually a sign that someone is struggling in a debate. Creating straw man arguments is another. You've done both with the Lucas and Skrtel thing, which you are now running with. If you can find evidence of me wanting Lucas or Skrtel sold, go for it.

 

As for you argument wrt to Henderson, those same people at the club thought Carroll was worth £35M and Downing £20M etc. They also thought that Downing was "better than they thought", again I paraphrase. So we must be actually getting good value for our £20M, according to Kenny.

 

Personally, I think that a manager lives and dies by his signings. I think Kenny has been incredibly lucky with the money given to him and he has wasted it in an almost grotesque manner. He has a portfolio of signings that is worse than anyone I can think of.

 

You are living in the alternative reality where we signed this other player and we are there and thereabouts Arsenal. But we haven't signed him. We signed Andy Carroll for £35M and we are as close to Blackburn as we are to Newcastle.

 

I'll say it again, Andy Carroll for £35M. Has it sunk in yet?

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Would it be so mental to go in for Clint Dempsey in the summer?

 

Dempsey? I was thinking more along the lines of a cheeky bid for Grant Holt after another quality finish from the big man today!

 

That's a joke, by the way. Thought I'd specify that before the mentalists on here explode.

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Deviation from the subject is usually a sign that someone is struggling in a debate. Creating straw man arguments is another. You've done both with the Lucas and Skrtel thing, which you are now running with. If you can find evidence of me wanting Lucas or Skrtel sold, go for it.

 

As for you argument wrt to Henderson, those same people at the club thought Carroll was worth £35M and Downing £20M etc. They also thought that Downing was "better than they thought", again I paraphrase. So we must be actually getting good value for our £20M, according to Kenny.

 

Personally, I think that a manager lives and dies by his signings. I think Kenny has been incredibly lucky with the money given to him and he has wasted it in an almost grotesque manner. He has a portfolio of signings that is worse than anyone I can think of.

 

You are living in the alternative reality where we signed this other player and we are there and thereabouts Arsenal. But we haven't signed him. We signed Andy Carroll for £35M and we are as close to Blackburn as we are to Newcastle.

 

I'll say it again, Andy Carroll for £35M. Has it sunk in yet?

 

MrT you are bang on the money in everything you have said ..... any person with a semblance of reality knows this.

 

Theres a saying about trying to reason with an idiot/delusional person , along the line of its just a completly pointless thing to do.

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MrT you are bang on the money in everything you have said ..... any person with a semblance of reality knows this.

Theres a saying about trying to reason with an idiot/delusional person , along the line of its just a completly pointless thing to do.

 

Quite true.

 

When you have forumites who think Kenny "deserves another season" after our worst results in decades after generous owners, whilst telling us "Rafa had to go" when he finished seventh under the worst ownership in the history of the club and having his players sold to pay debts, rational arguments are thrown out the window.

 

Im torn regarding Kenny but there is no way in fucking hell Rafa should ever have been sacked. You reap what you sew, you thick xenophobic cunts.

 

"But Rafa played too many politics!!"...says the fan who was out every weekend and emailing whoever he could to protest against the owners. The fan base that set up a fucking organisation to take down these very same owners.

 

Politics? Well, we would know, wouldn't we?

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Any chance of not turning this thread into another tedious fucking Rafa argument?

 

I'm a bit torn today - obv want the mancs to lose but that ain't gonna happen. Whilst I'd like citeh to at least look like they're interested in winning the league I'd like to see the gooners put some daylight between themselves and chelsea. One of the few positives in this league campaign is the possibility of chelsea failing to make CL football, even though spurs seem to be going out of the way to hand it to them.

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