Sack Rafa or keep Rafa?

[lebron]

It's not irrelevant at all; Fergusons about turn was once in a lifetime material, the fact of the matter is that nobody at all outside of Anfield rates him, nobody at all that i know, not one single person.

 

Hmmmm.... Like noone in Europe then? I think you'll find Rafa is very highly regarded in most countries outside the UK. It will be easier for him to find a new top managing job than for us to find a top new manager, put it that way.

[Kevin D]

No offence but I don't need somebody from Leeds who has a upside down picture of bin laden with a cock on his head on his footy forum profile telling me the views of scousers who go the match!

 

I'm intrigued to know how, in your mind, that wasn't offensive?

[a stoner]

This poll is closer than the GE.

I still think he will still be here next season no matter what happens. I also think he will be sacked by October if we don't have a blinding start to the season.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

hmm

 

Yeah, that's exactly the same as calling someone a cunt, I'm sure if you dig up all my old posts you could find a better example/actual example of hypocrisy there though, go RRT you know you want to.

[rockredrock]

Got to keep the man "rafa".fuck me half want him gone hicks must love the 49.9% of dickheads that want him gone,i bet you its the cunts that keep handing over the cash that keeps the two wankers here milkcow anyone.

[Juan Galonso]

Ah, the anfield mole again, if any players started to criticise the manager, letting out snippets like that, brifing to the press or fanzines or whatever, then surely all fans would be united agains the player, just like they were against Paul Ince ?

 

I mean, no decent, proper, Liverpool type players would go bitching bout the manager behind their backs would they ? No player is bigger than the club and all that.

 

Does that last line apply to the manager then in your world? Obviously not.

[JMARKH]

Not having that at all, Rafa's biggest failing this year has not being able to motivate the team to keep fighting despite all this shit going on off the pitch. If the owners hadn't fucked everything up it wouldn't have been a problem. It's like blaming firemen for not saving a burning house rather than the arsonist who lit the match.

 

Mourinho would have invoked team spirit rather than moaned as would have Ferguson, since they lost Tevez and Ronaldo he has got on with the job and they are still in the title race with a squad as weak as they have ever had in recent years.

 

Moyes is always having to sell to buy but never seems to replace the players he has to sell with inferior ones, infact they seem to get stronger under him, he hasn't had anywhere near the resources that Benitez has had so why are they so close to us?

[Maldini]

Mourinho would have invoked team spirit rather than moaned as would have Ferguson, since they lost Tevez and Ronaldo he has got on with the job and they are still in the title race with a squad as weak as they have ever had in recent years.

 

Moyes is always having to sell to buy but never seems to replace the players he has to sell with inferior ones, infact they seem to get stronger under him, he hasn't had anywhere near the resources that Benitez has had so why are they so close to us?

 

Because our club is in crisis, the players know this and it affected the performances.

[Maldini]

Incidentally I posted the same poll on YNWA and the result at the moment over there is

 

sack him - 21 (12.35%)

keep him - 149 (87.65%)

 

so the overall vote at the moment between the two sites with 363 votes cast is

 

Sack him - 117 (33%)

Keep him - 246 (67%)

 

Obviously there'll be a few double votes between the two sites as well

[Guest ShoePiss]

Not to mention the fucking weirdos who take the time to sign up multiple times purely for the purpose of voting on forum polls,

 

right unright...

[Guest ShoePiss]

Are you serious? Did you not read what I posted?

 

You said something along these lines to me in a neg, it's your post where 'are you serious' is valid not those in response to it.

 

In all the other rafa polls it was never brought up as an issue, often the polling options were but never something as mongy as your suggestion of people coming on here from other forums purely to vote or people signing up with alternative accounts.

 

Only you said it because the outcome of this poll (when the choices were simply stay or go) possibly doesn't match up to what you'd like to see.

 

Childish.

[Code]

Incidentally I posted the same poll on YNWA and the result at the moment over there is

 

sack him - 21 (12.35%)

keep him - 149 (87.65%)

 

so the overall vote at the moment between the two sites with 363 votes cast is

 

Sack him - 117 (33%)

Keep him - 246 (67%)

 

Obviously there'll be a few double votes between the two sites as well

 

I always knew there were a few knowledgable posters on YNWA in the sea of self important arseholes on there.

[Juan Galonso]

Because our club is in crisis, the players know this and it affected the performances.

 

This is straw clutching at its very worst.

 

Portsmouth team spirit looks fantastic with all players pulling in the same direction and they have all been rewarded with an FA Cup Final. Maybe the manager has something to do with that.

[Shreddy]

I'll give Rafa one more season if he does nothing then he can leave.

 

Lol at the votes

sack him 100 50.00%

keep him 100 50.00%

[Hand Shandy]

Fuck all you haters!

 

Keep him.

[usernameunknown]

 

Portsmouth team spirit looks fantastic

 

In the FA Cup yeah, in the league theyve put in some of the most gutless displays ive ever seen. Along with a few of our performances.

[Dr Arthur De Sabre]

I always knew there were a few knowledgable posters on YNWA in the sea of self important arseholes on there.

 

Fuck me, you really are up there with Ernie Wise & Sid Little, do you keep a straight face when you post this shit? Seriously I'd have you on Have I Got News For You

[JMARKH]

Because our club is in crisis, the players know this and it affected the performances.

 

Man United have a bigger debt than ours and didn't reinvest Ronaldo money, yet seem to be doing alright.

[Juan Galonso]

In the FA Cup yeah, in the league theyve put in some of the most gutless displays ive ever seen. Along with a few of our performances.

 

I disagree, it is just that they aren't good enough.

 

They signed a mish-mash of players practically on deadline day last August and were just thrown together like some real life version of Football Manager or something. Portsmouth are in a far bigger mess than we are.

 

Making excuses that the ownership situation is affecting the players as someone did is straw clutching. If the players were really that bothered by that then maybe they should half their wages then until things are back on an even keel.

 

It basically comes down to coaching and getting the best out of the resources available to you. Rafa has failed in that respect this season.

[Hermes]

I'll give Rafa one more season if he does nothing then he can leave.

 

 

Define "nothing".

[Hermes]

Man United have a bigger debt than ours and didn't reinvest Ronaldo money, yet seem to be doing alright.

 

As some said on here "They have a great manager".

 

They failed to see the irony of that statement.

[Delmar]

I disagree, it is just that they aren't good enough.

 

They signed a mish-mash of players practically on deadline day last August and were just thrown together like some real life version of Football Manager or something. Portsmouth are in a far bigger mess than we are.

 

Making excuses that the ownership situation is affecting the players as someone did is straw clutching. If the players were really that bothered by that then maybe they should half their wages then until things are back on an even keel.

 

It basically comes down to coaching and getting the best out of the resources available to you. Rafa has failed in that respect this season.

 

How about putting it this way. The owners have created a massive chaos in and around the club. They have us close to bankruptcy, in a situation that LFC has never seen before. The manager has acted with the above constraints, however he has also failed to reach the results that he reasonably could have been expected to reach. And furthermore, the players have not pulled their weight, either.

 

However, the manager and the players could reasonably be given a bit of leeway, things at times go wrong, especially at times like we are living right now. The owners, on the other hand, deserve nothing but public shame and hopefully an eventual financial loss.

 

Then just leave it for now, arguments of who screwed up a bit more here and who there serve no purpose in a time of crisis. They just deepen it.

[Durango]

Incidentally I posted the same poll on YNWA and the result at the moment over there is

 

sack him - 21 (12.35%)

keep him - 149 (87.65%)

 

so the overall vote at the moment between the two sites with 363 votes cast is

 

Sack him - 117 (33%)

Keep him - 246 (67%)

 

Obviously there'll be a few double votes between the two sites as well

I think if you done the same poll on the RAOTL and RAWK,you get similar results,which proves 2 things,

 

The vast majority of the fans want him (Rafa) to STAY and the TLW is the most anti -Benitez site out there.

[Unrighteous]

You said something along these lines to me in a neg, it's your post where 'are you serious' is valid not those in response to it.

 

In all the other rafa polls it was never brought up as an issue, often the polling options were but never something as mongy as your suggestion of people coming on here from other forums purely to vote or people signing up with alternative accounts.

 

Only you said it because the outcome of this poll (when the choices were simply stay or go) possibly doesn't match up to what you'd like to see.

 

Childish.

 

That's only your interpretation of the situation... and you are wrong, of course. Keep believing what you'd like though, despite words to the contrary being ALREADY posted in this thread.

[Unrighteous]

I think if you done the same poll on the RAOTL and RAWK,you get similar results,which proves 2 things,

 

The vast majority of the fans want him (Rafa) to STAY and the TLW is the most anti -Benitez site out there.

 

No, most fans dont go on internet forums.