Ozan Kabak

[aRdja]

He just seemed very nervous. He also looked like never played a high line before in his life.

[Joey8FrogsLegs]

Far too early to judge, but a couple of worrying things. Most of all he seems to lack pace, which may well mean he isn’t what we need.

 

Apart from that he’s 20, just arrived from a team in a mess to a new one in a blind alley. Struggled with the positioning and the offside line, which is exactly what you’d expect from a new player and of course the reason throwing a couple of new CBs straight in isn’t necessarily a great idea.

[The Guest]

There’s a reason a club on the verge of relegation we’re happy to let him go out on loan halfway through the season with no compulsory buy at the end of the year.  We were forced into playing him today.  The clamour for him and Davies to start against city was laughable.

[Elite]

Just now, The Guest said:

There’s a reason a club on the verge of relegation we’re happy to let him go out on loan halfway through the season with no compulsory buy at the end of the year.  We were forced into playing him today.  The clamour for him and Davies to start against city was laughable.

We lost 4-1 anyway.

 

People are just searching for some hope but no matter what we do we're still shite and falling to bits. Our hope now is next season, that's how much of a mess we are in.

[The Guest]

Just now, Elite said:

We lost 4-1 anyway.

 

People are just searching for some hope but no matter what we do we're still shite and falling to bits. Our hope now is next season, that's how much of a mess we are in.

That wasn’t the defences fault and they played fairly well.  Had Kabak and Davies started it could have been double figures.

 

Having said all this if somebody put it to me after the Kiev final that we win the champions league and the league in the following by seasons followed by what’s happened this year I would have taken it all day.  It doesn’t make it any less painful though.

[Kevin D]

[Jairzinho]

Fancy Schalke to keep a clean sheet later.

[Brownie]

To succeed at centre half for us you need to be able to run. If you can’t run, then you need to be able to read the game extremely well.

 

The third goal was massively concerning.

[aRdja]

He didn’t look overly slow, certainly quicker than Phillips and Williams, similar pace to Lindelof maybe which is okay for a centre half. The rest of his game didn’t fill me with confidence however. Chances are he’ll

improve though. Not gonna write him off.

[Johnlj]

Is what you get when a club wouth rather have Mustafi than him. 

[Brownie]

1 minute ago, aRdja said:

He didn’t look overly slow, certainly quicker than Phillips and Williams, similar pace to Lindelof maybe which is okay for a centre half. The rest of his game didn’t fill me with confidence however. Chances are he’ll

improve though. Not gonna write him off.

Did you see the third goal? I’m surprised Taylor allowed the caravan on the pitch.

[Section_31]

It's impossible to judge a new centre back when they're thrown into the mix like that, especially when they're young and inexperienced. 

 

To be a good centre back you have to be part of a system and that takes time, it's not like being an attacker where you can just come in and look like you've got it all, unless you're Lillian Thuram and you're like the world's third fastest man and have telescopic legs.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Debut for a team in turmoil. The guy was born in  the year 2000. 20 fucking 00. Damn time. Life is to short to lose your shit over football.

 

My kneejerk is subsiding, im on the calmness and rationality stage. I'll fluctuate before I settle into acceptance and glue sniffing.

[Dr Nowt]

4 hours ago, Dr Nowt said:

Seen enough. Get him fucked off.

If anything this was too patient.

[chrisbonnie]

Played well until he got a yellow for what seemed to me, a good challenge. 

 

After that, I think he kind of panicked. 

 

For the first 70 odd minutes he was perfectly good, however once he got that yellow he turned into Jonathan woodgate on his real Madrid debut

[dockers_strike]

13 minutes ago, chrisbonnie said:

Played well until he got a yellow for what seemed to me, a good challenge. 

 

After that, I think he kind of panicked. 

 

For the first 70 odd minutes he was perfectly good, however once he got that yellow he turned into Jonathan woodgate on his real Madrid debut

Think it was Alli who panicked myself.

[aRdja]

5 hours ago, Brownie said:

Did you see the third goal? I’m surprised Taylor allowed the caravan on the pitch.

Harvey Barnes is one of the quickest players in the league, and he had a headstart.

[Brownie]

5 minutes ago, aRdja said:

Harvey Barnes is one of the quickest players in the league, and he had a headstart.

Wouldn’t say he’s one of the fastest in the league. I’m used to our centre halves having recovery pace.

[Josef Svejk]

I see Schalke kept a rare clean sheet today...

[A_S]

Yeah, let's pile on a fucking kid on his debut. Fucking hell, what is wrong with people. 

[Red Shift]

8 hours ago, The Guest said:

There’s a reason a club on the verge of relegation we’re happy to let him go out on loan halfway through the season with no compulsory buy at the end of the year.  We were forced into playing him today.  The clamour for him and Davies to start against city was laughable.

There’s very few options, but a solid midfield has to be a plus, surely?

[dockers_strike]

4 minutes ago, A_S said:

Yeah, let's pile on a fucking kid on his debut. Fucking hell, what is wrong with people. 

Yep. Alli's teflon coated though.

[El Dangerous]

5 minutes ago, A_S said:

Yeah, let's pile on a fucking kid on his debut. Fucking hell, what is wrong with people. 

I completely agree with the first part of your post, not sure what the second bit is all about.

[TheDrowningMan]

 

4 minutes ago, A_S said:

Yeah, let's pile on a fucking kid on his debut. Fucking hell, what is wrong with people. 

Yeah, it’s a bit harsh and I’m not surprised he was all over the place after Alisson clattered him idiotically. With that said, I’d like to see Davies given a chance when he’s fit largely because a player who was a stand out in the Championship will surely find it easier to acclimatise to the league than one who has had an absolutely torrid season at the bottom of the Bundesliga.

[Bjornebye]

9 hours ago, aRdja said:

He just seemed very nervous. He also looked like he’d never played before in his life.

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