Russia World Cup 18

[Guest]

Saying 'The Japs' is about as racist as saying 'The Brits'.

[Tony Moanero]

I was gutted for Japan, then quickly remembered that I like Belgium’s kit more than theirs.

[Gym Beglin]

Augers well when Belgium can score 3 goals without Lukaku, Hazard or Batshuayii netting.

 

Japan very good, 2-0 flattered them, amazing strike for 2nd, but in the end Belgium showed they mean business.

[Hades]

Japan will feel gutted by that result. They would have been hoping to advance to the quarter-finals of the World Cup.

[Saintslfc13]

[Kevin D]

Is right, the very last place they wanted that one to go is into Courtois' hands, you could see then legging it up the field as soon as he caught it.  Like you say, fair fucks for having a crack but surely the sensible option there was take it short, get the whistle and give yourselves another half an hour.

Going for the goal was fine, but after Courtois caught it 2 or 3 of them should have been immediately jumping into/obstructing him to make sure he doesn't get the ball away quickly.

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Cunt.

[3 Stacks]

Fucking hell people get offended by anything these days.

 

 

Saying 'The Japs' is about as racist as saying 'The Brits'.

 

Naw, it's racist. Look up how it's been used throughout history. 

 

Also, aventus is generally a twat so this doesn't entirely surprise me.  

[1892-LFCWasBorn]

Saying 'The Japs' is about as racist as saying 'The Brits'.

 

Like calling someone from Pakistan a Paki you mean?

[dockers_strike]

I read this in the "Confucius says" voice -- whatever...

 

He was Chinese I think. Obviously Japan had not thought of it. Whatever.

[mattyq]

I don't think Japs is racist unlike 'Paki' which obviously is

Cracking game

[cloggypop]

Naw, it's racist. Look up how it's been used throughout history.

 

Also, aventus is generally a twat so this doesn't entirely surprise me.

Maybe aventus is just as ignorant as Jamie Vardy

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leicestershire-37477703

[Pidge]

I don't think Japs is racist unlike 'Paki' which obviously is

Cracking game

 

You can see the historical context why North Americans would carry that association though.  Racially motivated suggestion of an enemy within etc.

[Carvalho Diablo]

[The Golden Eel]

There'll be tears on the streets of Shanghai tonight, that's for sure

[Ne Moe Imya]

Er, guys, there are all sorts of things that shouldn't be offensive but are offensive because of historical associations. Like with blacks and watermelons - there is absolutely no logical reason why that association should be racist. But for a very dumb historical reason (look it up sometime, it's actually comical how stupid racists can be) it is.

 

The term "Japs" absolutely falls under that. By all rights, it should be as racist or offensive as "Brits." It's just a shortened form of the objective term for people from the Japanese islands.

 

However, much like "Pakis," it's been used historically in all sorts of offensive and demeaning ways, meaning anyone saying it is likely to offend a Japanese person. Go look up the WWII propaganda posters referring to Japanese people as "Japs" and you can immediately see it. Saying it is just not a good idea at all.

[Guest]

Like calling someone from Pakistan a Paki you mean?

That term historically has racist undertones as it's often used to target an individual. Brits and Japs in this term certainly does not as it's being used to collect the entire population of one country in one word which in my opinion is a million miles away from being racist. If an individual was being referred to as a Jap that would be a completely different story.

[mattyq]

You can see the historical context why North Americans would carry that association though.  Racially motivated suggestion of an enemy within etc.

Well, if it's related to the whole internment camp thing then yes, I get the negative connotations

From my perspective I just view it as an abbreviated plural noun much like the Brits or the Yanks or Ruskies etc

[niallers]

There'll be tears on the streets of Shanghai tonight, that's for sure

Ah isn't that in China? Or are you referring to the Japanese diaspora in Shanghai?

[s(k)aturation]

Whereas "old white male cunt" - where each of the 4 words disparages on age, colour and gender - might be perfectly PC. 

 

Comme si comme ça.

[Hades]

Whereas "you old white male cunt" might be perfectly PC. 

 

Comme si comme ça.

 

Can a person disagree with both? I believe the Golden Rule is a good guide.

[s(k)aturation]

Can a person disagree with both?

 

 

One would certainly hope.

 

Because disagreeing with both is the only proper thing to do.

[Carvalho Diablo]

[Babb'sBurstNad]

Not sure if it's racist, but Turning Japanese was a catchy song.

 

That's all I have to add on the matter.

[Josef Svejk]

Not sure if it's racist, but Turning Japanese was a catchy song.

I really think so.