Coronavirus

[TheBitch]

9 minutes ago, DalyanPete said:

Talking to a friend last night who's 79 year old mother is in hospital. Not vaccinated due to religious beliefs of not going to heaven?

Never heard that before. Christian as far as I know.

 

Jesus wept…

[Guest]

32 minutes ago, DalyanPete said:

Talking to a friend last night who's 79 year old mother is in hospital. Not vaccinated due to religious beliefs of not going to heaven?

Never heard that before. Christian as far as I know.

 

If the bar for entering Heaven is not being vaccinated and anything worse than this stops you entering, I’ll see you all in Hell.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Cunt Tories want to force workers to risk catching Covid, in order to protect the income of their rich landlord friends.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61145692

 

[Mudface]

20 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Cunt Tories want to force workers to risk catching Covid, in order to protect the income of their rich landlord friends.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61145692

 

Covid's over now though, or at least it will be as soon as the free tests dry up and they can obfuscate the figures even more.

[DalyanPete]

2 hours ago, Shooter in the Motor said:

If the bar for entering Heaven is not being vaccinated and anything worse than this stops you entering, I’ll see you all in Hell.

I'm all in on hell, sounds like more fun apart from the hot poker in the arse thing he's apparently partial to. But it could be don't knock it until you've tried it.

[Bjornebye]

State of these weird cunts

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Matt Hancock and Boris Johnson want locking up for this absolute disgrace.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-government-broke-the-law-by-failing-care-home-residents-who-died-of-coronavirus-high-court-rules-12599918

 

[TheHowieLama]

We need to understand about these mandates - what's up in China? @Red Phoenix

[Bjornebye]

Plenty of the tory side of the commons had masks on today in PMQ's. 

 

"We defeated Covid" yeah ok 

[Section_31]

Ever since I had the vid a few weeks back I've been getting waves of tiredness, like literally nodding off while I'm sitting down. I've always been a lazy bastard but not this bad. 

[Red Phoenix]

On 27/04/2022 at 23:47, TheHowieLama said:

We need to understand about these mandates - what's up in China? @Red Phoenix

 

Have just seen this and only because I clicked on the thread (only logged in to post in a music thread here and there recently and often don't check notifications.)

 

The Chinese gov are insane but I thought that was already accepted. They seem to have read 1984 (or watched the film instead like I did) years ago and thought it was an instruction manual instead of a warning.

[DJLJ]

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/almost-three-times-as-many-died-as-a-result-of-covid-than-officially-reported-who-41617562.html

 

Almost three times as many died as a result of COVID than officially reported - WHO 

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Jennifer Rigby

May 05 2022 01:54 PM

 

Almost three times as many people have died as a result of COVID-19 as the official data show, according to a new World Health Organisation (WHO) report, the most comprehensive look at the true global toll of the pandemic so far.

There were 14.9 million excess deaths associated with COVID-19 by the end of 2021, the UN body said on Thursday. The official count of deaths directly attributable to COVID-19 and reported to WHO in that period, from January 2020 to the end of December 2021, is slightly more than 5.4 million.

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The WHO's excess mortality figures reflect people who died of COVID-19 as well as those who died as an indirect result of the outbreak, including people who could not access healthcare for other conditions when systems were overwhelmed during huge waves of infection. It also accounts for deaths averted during the pandemic, for example because of the lower risk of traffic accidents during lockdowns.

But the numbers are also far higher than the official tally because of deaths that were missed in countries without adequate reporting. Even pre-pandemic, around six in 10 deaths around the world were not registered, WHO said.

The WHO report said that almost half of the deaths that until now had not been counted were in India. The report suggests that 4.7 million people died there as a result of the pandemic, mainly during a huge surge in May and June 2021.

 

The Indian government, however, puts its death toll for the January 2020-December 2021 period far lower: about 480,000. WHO said it had not yet fully examined new data provided this week by India, which has pushed back against the WHO estimates and issued its own mortality figures for all causes of death in 2020 on Tuesday. Read full story WHO said it may add a disclaimer to the report highlighting the ongoing conversation with India.

The WHO panel, made up of international experts who have been working on the data for months, used a combination of national and local information, as well as statistical models, to estimate totals where the data is incomplete – a methodology that India has criticised.

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However, other independent assessments have also put the death toll in India far higher than the official government tally, including a report published in Science which suggested three million people may have died of COVID in the country. Read full story

Other models have also reached similar conclusions about the global death toll being far higher than the recorded statistics. For comparison, around 50 million people are thought to have died in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, and 36 million have died of HIV since the epidemic began in the 1980s.

Samira Asma, WHO assistant director general for data, analytics and delivery for impact, who co-led the calculation process, said data was the "lifeblood of public health" needed to assess and learn from what happened during the pandemic, and called for more support for countries to improve reporting.

 

"Too much is unknown," she told reporters in a press briefing.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, DJLJ said:

https://m.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/almost-three-times-as-many-died-as-a-result-of-covid-than-officially-reported-who-41617562.html

 

Almost three times as many died as a result of COVID than officially reported - WHO 

1 Stock image

Jennifer Rigby

May 05 2022 01:54 PM

 

Almost three times as many people have died as a result of COVID-19 as the official data show, according to a new World Health Organisation (WHO) report, the most comprehensive look at the true global toll of the pandemic so far.

There were 14.9 million excess deaths associated with COVID-19 by the end of 2021, the UN body said on Thursday. The official count of deaths directly attributable to COVID-19 and reported to WHO in that period, from January 2020 to the end of December 2021, is slightly more than 5.4 million.

Read More

• Another 24 Covid-linked deaths in Northern Ireland recorded in a week
• Bill Gates warns risk of new variants could mean ‘we haven’t seen worst’ of pandemic
• Couple will choose jail over paying €300 fine for travelling 70km to mass during lockdown

The WHO's excess mortality figures reflect people who died of COVID-19 as well as those who died as an indirect result of the outbreak, including people who could not access healthcare for other conditions when systems were overwhelmed during huge waves of infection. It also accounts for deaths averted during the pandemic, for example because of the lower risk of traffic accidents during lockdowns.

But the numbers are also far higher than the official tally because of deaths that were missed in countries without adequate reporting. Even pre-pandemic, around six in 10 deaths around the world were not registered, WHO said.

The WHO report said that almost half of the deaths that until now had not been counted were in India. The report suggests that 4.7 million people died there as a result of the pandemic, mainly during a huge surge in May and June 2021.

 

The Indian government, however, puts its death toll for the January 2020-December 2021 period far lower: about 480,000. WHO said it had not yet fully examined new data provided this week by India, which has pushed back against the WHO estimates and issued its own mortality figures for all causes of death in 2020 on Tuesday. Read full story WHO said it may add a disclaimer to the report highlighting the ongoing conversation with India.

The WHO panel, made up of international experts who have been working on the data for months, used a combination of national and local information, as well as statistical models, to estimate totals where the data is incomplete – a methodology that India has criticised.

Daily Digest Newsletter

Get ahead of the day with the morning headlines at 7.30am and Fionnán Sheahan's exclusive take on the day's news every afternoon, with our free daily newsletter. 

 

 

However, other independent assessments have also put the death toll in India far higher than the official government tally, including a report published in Science which suggested three million people may have died of COVID in the country. Read full story

Other models have also reached similar conclusions about the global death toll being far higher than the recorded statistics. For comparison, around 50 million people are thought to have died in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, and 36 million have died of HIV since the epidemic began in the 1980s.

Samira Asma, WHO assistant director general for data, analytics and delivery for impact, who co-led the calculation process, said data was the "lifeblood of public health" needed to assess and learn from what happened during the pandemic, and called for more support for countries to improve reporting.

 

"Too much is unknown," she told reporters in a press briefing.

Looking forward to @Strontium's reaction to this news...

 

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[TheBitch]

Heard on the radio that Sweden and their lack of lockdown fared best overall. 
 

*backs slowly out of thread*

[Section_31]

19 minutes ago, TheBitch said:

Heard on the radio that Sweden and their lack of lockdown fared best overall. 
 

*backs slowly out of thread*

 

It's an interesting position that zero Covid societies find themselves in, because their populations have lower immunity. That's why the Chinese are freaking out and locking kids in shoeboxes in Shanghai.

[Bjornebye]

I don’t think the reality of this pandemic has hit anyone yet. It’s still not even over. In about 5 years we are all

going to wake up and go “fucking hell!!!!!” But you’ll still get bellends denying it ever happened etc. 

[Bjornebye]

9 hours ago, TheBitch said:

Heard on the radio that Sweden and their lack of lockdown fared best overall. 
 

*backs slowly out of thread*

Yeah when they’ve got a population density of about 23 people per square km  compared to the UK’s 276 per km it stands to reason they they will have a much smaller death rate. Things like this have been pointed out often enough on this thread, unfortunately some completely ignore actual facts and instead prefer to carry on with their own bullshit narrative.
 

I genuinely believe that the attitudes of a large number of people (especially at the height of it when thousands were dying daily) contributed to additional deaths through their selfish arrogance. 

[Oh Buoy]

Boooooooo - just tested positive - nothing other than a sore throat and feeling a bit gassed walking up the stairs like. 

[SasaS]

6 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

Yeah when they’ve got a population density of about 23 people per square km  compared to the UK’s 276 per km it stands to reason they they will have a much smaller death rate. Things like this have been pointed out often enough on this thread, unfortunately some completely ignore actual facts and instead prefer to carry on with their own bullshit narrative.
 

I genuinely believe that the attitudes of a large number of people (especially at the height of it when thousands were dying daily) contributed to additional deaths through their selfish arrogance. 

They don't have a much smaller death rate. And most of them live in the south and around Stockholm, where population density is much higher than average.

[polymerpunkah]

What's the metric?

 

 

Canada vs Sweden weekly death rate per million.

 

I'd venture to guess that we had one of the more restrictive approaches--not NZ, AUS or China, but relatively restrictive.

 

So is it safe to say "Canada, with it's restrictive approach, fared best"?

 

And what about China? They'll claim they fared best, given their death rate. But how do you factor in the cost of such incredibly restrictive lock-downs? 

 

Too many variables to make the claim that anyone "fared best", IMO.

[Anubis]

On 27/04/2022 at 23:47, TheHowieLama said:

We need to understand about these mandates - what's up in China? @Red Phoenix

RP may have his faults, but I don’t think he’s a leading member of the Chinese government.

[TheBitch]

4 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

What's the metric?

 

 

Canada vs Sweden weekly death rate per million.

 

I'd venture to guess that we had one of the more restrictive approaches--not NZ, AUS or China, but relatively restrictive.

 

So is it safe to say "Canada, with it's restrictive approach, fared best"?

 

And what about China? They'll claim they fared best, given their death rate. But how do you factor in the cost of such incredibly restrictive lock-downs? 

 

Too many variables to make the claim that anyone "fared best", IMO.

Don’t shoot the messenger, son. 

[Colonel Bumcunt]

On 15/04/2022 at 20:13, Alan Sex said:

Still stuck in bed for 4th day. Cough a little better (thanks rum!) but a bastard of a migraine today. So staying off the phone/tv for the most part. 
 

The Mrs tested positive with very mild symptoms and one of the kids with no symptoms. Bastard virus. 

You dead? 

[TheHowieLama]

North Korea has just registered their first case. That's right, only one so far.

 

In other North Korean news Kim Jong-Un had four holes in one in his last round of golf.

[Mudface]

9 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

North Korea has just registered their first case. That's right, only one so far.

 

In other North Korean news Kim Jong-Un had four holes in one in his last round of golf.

He's gone off the boil then.