SOS

[SpeedyG]

It is also breaking the law.

 

EXACTLY MY POINT.

[Antynwa]

EXACTLY MY POINT.

 

So you want SOS to break the law, ignore professional advice and financial monitoring?

 

Sound.

 

Put yourself up for vote in the AGM, and no I'm not joking, you want to do things, well do them.

[hamstrung]

We should go Israeli on their asses.

 

I can't wear a balaclava though as I have a wool allergy, so for that reason I'm out.

[SpeedyG]

Okay then....Why don't you save yourself £9.90 and call Anfield yourself and say there is a bomb! I can see the sense.

 

Target Demographic? Come of it, whether you live in Anfield or Auckland you can join the SoS, the fact that it seems as if it's 'for locals' is only because 'locals' got behind it, it is much easier to set up smaller schemes, than to jump head first into International Relations.

 

Rome wasn't built in a day, week, month or year you know?

 

And without members, it will achieve nothing anyway.

 

I sent plenty of emails about how to leverage the internet, how to create a virtual pressure group, about the value of liverpool fans in dallas. There was no engagement on their part. They weren't interested. All their energy and attention was focused on "ground operations", which to me was a mistake and also created the impression of a local thing which isolated and marginalized a lot of OOT'eers.

[SpeedyG]

We should go Israeli on their asses.

 

I can't wear a balaclava though as I have a wool allergy, so for that reason I'm out.

 

I have a nice polyester model left over from my poll tax riot days if that would help.

[hamstrung]

I have a nice polyester model left over from my poll tax riot days if that would help.

 

I cannot just cast aside my fashion principles for any old cause.

 

SAY NO TO POLYESTER.

[Hooch]

Speedy, have you had contact with SOS before? Genuine question.

[SpeedyG]

Speedy, have you had contact with SOS before? Genuine question.

 

Only very early on and via the people who manned the SOS section on YNWA and some other forum. Once they incorporated it was obvious they were not a vehicle for anything that could be effective.

[Bernard Diomede]

Speedy, all the things you have suggested ie bomb threats could be done by you, just wondering why you haven't if you think they'd be so effective

[Antynwa]

Only very early on and via the people who manned the SOS section on YNWA and some other forum. Once they incorporated it was obvious they were not a vehicle for anything that could be effective.

 

I object.

[SpeedyG]

I object.

 

We have different definitions of effective that's all. They are a top top supporters union and I'd not have a word said against them in that regard. But as an agent for change in ownership they are not effective. That much is pretty evident IMO.

[Barrington Womble]

IMO they chose to be legitimate vs. effective. You are not going to get rid of the owners by playing within the rules.

 

there was no real choice - at the time when the union started to fund raise etc. everyone was on the case accusing the people running it at the time they were on the make. to ensure everything was clear and above board there was no choice but to choose to go with the FSA.

[Barrington Womble]

Ah well, it was fun being on here!

 

It costs 10 pence (or whatever) to make a phone call to Anfield to say there's been a bomb planted. No game, no revenue, economic equation changed.

 

Membership packs WTF. Public relations won't win you jack shit especially if your target demographic extends very little beyond locals.

 

if it's that easy why didn't you make the call? or sorry forgot you'd leave the to someone else and then find reasons to cunt them off.

[SpeedyG]

if it's that easy why didn't you make the call? or sorry forgot you'd leave the to someone else and then find reasons to cunt them off.

 

A sustainable campaign requires more than a phone call and requires more than one person.

[Antynwa]

A sustainable campaign requires more than a phone call and requires more than one person.

 

One person to dial the numbers? One person to hold the phone to the face? One person to speak?

 

Come off it lad.

 

Besides, if there was an authorised SOS led bomb threat, they would make more enemies then friends I assure you.

 

You go on about 'OOTERS' being felt like they are left out, can you imagine how those who have travelled from far off countries only to find out their fellow fans had got the game called off because of a bomb threat?

 

Madness.

[Dan Vito Corleone]

I'm all for action against the owners, and I;m sure it was tongue in cheek, but a bomb threat is a step too far!

[liamo3]

Friends in high places within the club mate. Towing the party line if you like.

 

Wont be renewing my membership.

 

If that is your opinion have you put your own name forward for the committee? I think I seem to remember a certain protest in the ground against Havant that was quickly shot down by other lads in the Kop, So do people feel civil war will help the situation. The AGM is just around the corner, lads can feel free to go for committee membership and be voted in if they feel they can offer more.

 

I am not sure what the next step should be the world has changed so much in very short space of time. I despise the current owner regime at Liverpool but I think it's a case of when not if they are gone. Problem is now who comes in and takes the mantle. This is were a fans organisation really needs to show their resolve because we will have new owners sooner rather than later and last thing we need is for someone to come in again and screw it up.

Lets not be so welcoming next time!

[Guest davelfc]

What we need is a group that means action, I've come up with a name. Stop Hicks And Gillet. Or S.H.A.G. Banners should say 'We want to S.H.A.G."

 

SHAG would meet once a week, SHAG cards would be sent out to all members. SHAG would be the only option open to fans that wanted the owners out.

 

I vote we chant the name of the new group tonight.

[SpeedyG]

One person to dial the numbers? One person to hold the phone to the face? One person to speak?

 

Come off it lad.

Witty, the keyword was sustainable.

 

Besides, if there was an authorised SOS led bomb threat, they would make more enemies then friends I assure you.

 

I'm not advocating SOS doing anything. Of course they couldn't.

 

 

You go on about 'OOTERS' being felt like they are left out, can you imagine how those who have travelled from far off countries only to find out their fellow fans had got the game called off because of a bomb threat?

 

So how far are you prepared to go? Pissing off a few fans is too far? How far are you prepared to go?

 

Madness.

 

Yeah, it is madness. But those are the stakes if you want to play the game. And it don't seem like any of you do. You'll piss and moan and march with your flags and banners but if there is a HARD decision to make, then......

 

You say you want them out but you don't, not enough anyway.

[Antynwa]

I'm prepared to go very far, I'm just trying to address or worries and concerns, at the moment you are just contradicting yourself.

[SpeedyG]

I'm prepared to go very far, I'm just trying to address or worries and concerns, at the moment you are just contradicting yourself.

 

It may seem that way but I'm not, I just can't fully expound.

 

If you are part of SOS then you should ignore what I'm saying, because it would ruin SOS and the all the good they currently do.

[redrosetints]

To be honest, I think a maor problem has been how to get the yanks out. OK, we've had protests and I presonally thought the one pre the man united game was brilliant - but very soon after it became clear RBS had agreed to extend the loan and they were safe until at least the end of the season, which I think killed the momentum a little, in fact more than a little it killed it dead. The fact remains, they are only going to sell should someone want to buy and right now nobody seems to be queueing up to do so. I think a march and a protest inside the ground is an absolute must for the chelsea game. If nothing else we should make them feel uncomfortable and unsafe coming to anfield and may just get this story back in the press and help remind a few potential buyers out there the club is very much up for sale.

 

Agreed, i also thin Al should go to both Parry and Moores houses, direct action.

[Barrington Womble]

A sustainable campaign requires more than a phone call and requires more than one person.

 

so it's more than a phone call? yet you just said all it was was 10p and a call.

[SpeedyG]

so it's more than a phone call? yet you just said all it was was 10p and a call.

 

That was a single example of the kind of thing that could impact the economic equation. There are plenty of other things that could be done and as was pointed out clearing anfield one time would not have a sustainable effect.

[discuit]

This thread started off well, and has gone downhill very fast.