Sevilla (a) CL - Match Thread

[Chip Butty]

We didn’t lose thankfullly.

 

My fuck up, but it did feel like it though. Shows how bad it was I guess. 

[Chip Butty]

When the attack scores 3 (again), and the defence concedes 3 (again), I'd say the defence is a pretty glaring issue. You can whimper on about 'character', 'steel', 'balls' and any other intangible adjective while Peps team of physical midgets march forward with 17 wins down the road. It comes down to ability -- and it is a lack of ability why we've conceded 12 in our 3 tough away games this season, and a lack of ability is why our players in those positions generally cost a few million £ each (if that).

Attack is pretty fucking sensational though (City are flipping the scales this season .. but any normal year and we're right there at the top on that front), so who knows what's possible. Quarter final birth would be my bet.

 

One end of the pitch has a probable value of £200-250 million. The other MAYBE £30-40 million depending on who we trot out. Anything but a team game for us. It is incredibly, incredibly lopsided.

 

 

Not arsed about 'pep' and why would I be on a Liverpool forum. 

 

And ask yourself this, what got us over the line in 2005, millions of pounds worth of talent or character and belief?

If you think buying player A, because he's worth X  will guarantee success, then you're sorely mistaken. Price tags don't make great teams; ability yes, plays a part, but character and the will to win do. You can't put a price on it, you can't train it in to people, and without it, you won't win a carrot. 

 

Last nights debacle wasn't down to just ability, it was mainly down to character and its something we've lacked for years. 

[janmolby]

What a massive fuck up.

 

To think, one minute away from topping the group and the chance to rest the side for the Moscow game 4 days before the derby.

 

 

A draw in the Moscow match would likely see us finish 2nd and a defeat would leave us in 3rd.

[Barnesey]

A defeat knocks us out on the basis Seville win. But if they don't...

[Harry Squatter]

Think Moreno and Lovren will end up walking on the mororway in their dressing gowns the way they have had to be taken off due to meltdowns. Ian Beale is a Liverpool fan as well so maybe theres some connection.

[VladimirIlyich]

We can always replace the bloos in the Europa League if we end up in our worst case scenario.

[The Guest]

Klopp has now said himself that he maybe should have changed things earlier which I’m glad to hear. It was clearly the issue for me. I know he’s trying to protect Moreno by saying it but essentially he is saying he should have took him out of the firing line once the performance began to drop and his head went. It would have killed the game had he went off earlier along with Can coming on.

[Aventus]

Klopp has now said himself that he maybe should have changed things earlier which I’m glad to hear. It was clearly the issue for me. I know he’s trying to protect Moreno by saying it but essentially he is saying he should have took him out of the firing line once the performance began to drop and his head went. It would have killed the game had he went off earlier along with Can coming on.

Klopp being slow to make substitutions is my main criticism of him.

 

Hopefully now he's recognised that, he will try to improve himself.