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Keir Starmer


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1 hour ago, sir roger said:

That new speaker is a weaselly gobshite , I wondered why so many Tories mp's were voting for him and it seems pretty obvious why now. Lets Johnson et al do whatever they like in the chamber and then has a fucking eppy because somebody is standing in a doorway.

I agree, comes across as a huge one.

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‘Labour leader Keir Starmer is moving to shut down the creeping narrative that he has been sitting on the fence on key issues facing the country, following his abstention on corona rules. This isn’t just being pushed by the Tories, but appears to have cut through to younger audiences too — yesterday, gal-dem‘s Moya Lothian Mclean wrote this excoriating article attacking Starmer from the left as a “wet wipe” who has “defined his leadership by bottling it on high-stakes issues.” The piece goes on: “Try and name a single Keir Starmer policy. Go on, think of it now. Anything? Nope. Now name a Keir Starmer abstention.”

 

You know what he should do? 
 

Call the ghost of Jade Goody a cunt on Twitter, that’ll show ‘em.
 

That’s how politics is done now, right? 

 

Fucking nonsense, myopic, short term thinking, Twitter bullshit.

 

You get the leaders you deserve.

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1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

‘Labour leader Keir Starmer is moving to shut down the creeping narrative that he has been sitting on the fence on key issues facing the country, following his abstention on corona rules. This isn’t just being pushed by the Tories, but appears to have cut through to younger audiences too — yesterday, gal-dem‘s Moya Lothian Mclean wrote this excoriating article attacking Starmer from the left as a “wet wipe” who has “defined his leadership by bottling it on high-stakes issues.” The piece goes on: “Try and name a single Keir Starmer policy. Go on, think of it now. Anything? Nope. Now name a Keir Starmer abstention.”

 

You know what he should do? 
 

Call the ghost of Jade Goody a cunt on Twitter, that’ll show ‘em.
 

That’s how politics is done now, right? 

 

Fucking nonsense, myopic, short term thinking, Twitter bullshit.

 

You get the leaders you deserve.

I’ve no idea who Moya Mclean is, nor what gal-dem is (surely the highlight of any political writer’s career), but if she is ‘attacking from the left’ then she’s a tit. The left in this country are fucking idiots. I’ve been saying it for years. They are serial losers. There’s large pockets that sit thinking they’re the moral arbiters of the nation but really all they do is enable Tories. I hate the dickheads. They lose a landslide election so that opposition has no power and then complain about Labour ‘supporting’ government (on horrible right wing causes like saving lives and paying money to workers) and then hit out when they don’t support them and perpetuate the Tory attack line. You had one of them on here the other day quoting Boris’. What’s their play here anyway? Get Starmer to lose an election and stand down, or maybe get voted out in a VONC? Fine, then what? Corbyn again? RLB? Yeah, good luck with that. The left have nothing to offer in terms of leading the party and winning an election. So what’s the end game? Burn it down until the embers smoke on the ground? I’m serious, if anybody from the left can give me a comprehensive plan on how to win back power and 1) do it from the left 2) name the left-wing leader that could sell it and win back power on a left wing agenda, then I’ll join the cause. I’m more than happy for Starmer to get fucked off, but don’t do so without having a better option, otherwise it’s ‘Hodgson’s choice’ bullshit. Put up or shut up. 

 

I actively want them purged now, the anti-intelligence, anti-winning, my way or the highway, omni-losing, tribalist, Mourinho-sounding, patreon-begging, Trump-supporter level of delusion dickheads. I’d sooner not have my political beliefs represented at all than have them represented by such a bunch of shit-sniffing, coal-mine missing, backwards-thinking, still Thatcher-fighting, stuck in the past, neck-bearded, cagoule-wearing, point-missing sycophants. 
 

Name a policy? Fuck off. You don’t lay out policy - outside of his ten pledges (fact: all lies) - during a pandemic, during an economic crisis, just after an election. Policies aren’t the opposite of abstentions. What the fuck is she dribbling on about? Does she need a tissue? 
 

To quote one guy on twitter: ‘fuck - and I can’t emphasise this strongly enough - off’.  

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They're not "the left" though or anything approaching traditional working class labour voters.

 

If you want to see a good channel 5 show, get owen jones, those canary and novara media birds, and that bum who writes blogs asking for money all the time and take them around barrow, Runcorn or st helens in a mini bus knocking on doors (something im absolutely certain they've never done in their lives) and see how their Palestine, Venezuela and transgender rights stuff goes down on the doorstep.

 

Number of fucks given would be 0%.

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18 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

They're not "the left" though or anything approaching traditional working class labour voters.

 

If you want to see a good channel 5 show, get owen jones, those canary and novara media birds, and that bum who writes blogs asking for money all the time and take them around barrow, Runcorn or st helens in a mini bus knocking on doors (something im absolutely certain they've never done in their lives) and see how their Palestine, Venezuela and transgender rights stuff goes down on the doorstep.

 

Number of fucks given would be 0%.

They’re not the left in the eyes of people who know what the left is, but they are the left that’s visible and vocal. They’re the new generation with no ideas and no ability. It’s tragic.
 

I am interested in their alternative vision though. I’m somebody who wants the Tories out. Aside from New Labour, which they hate, Labour hasn’t had a government since 1974. The world has changed a bit since then and winning back power in that way hasn’t worked since. So what’s the plan.  
 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Numero said:

They’re not the left in the eyes of people who know what the left is, but they are the left that’s visible and vocal. They’re the new generation with no ideas and no ability. It’s tragic.
 

I am interested in their alternative vision though. I’m somebody who wants the Tories out. Aside from New Labour, which they hate, Labour hasn’t had a government since 1974. The world has changed a bit since then and winning back power in that way hasn’t worked since. So what’s the plan.  
 

 

 

 

To retweet other people's articles and call Starmer 'Keith'. Didn't you get the memo? 

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3 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

To retweet other people's articles and call Starmer 'Keith'. Didn't you get the memo? 


Activism!

 

Solidarity, comrade.

 

Do you know where the Keith stuff comes from? 
 

A made up story that he changed his name from ‘Keith’ to ‘Kier’ to impress a girl and they went with it, pathetic fuckers.

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I wonder if Keir or any of the Labour centrists have ever read "Listen Liberal" by Thomas Frank? If they haven't, they should. The similarities between modern Labour are striking. The abandonment of working class roots in favour of business interests has left the void where Trumpism and Brexit have flourished. There seems to be a huge disconnect between Labour the leadership and the ground troops stretching back to the last Blair government. If they don't get everyone back on the same page then the Tories will be at the helm for the next couple of decades at least. 

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1 hour ago, Numero said:

I’ve no idea who Moya Mclean is, nor what gal-dem is (surely the highlight of any political writer’s career), but if she is ‘attacking from the left’ then she’s a tit. The left in this country are fucking idiots. I’ve been saying it for years. They are serial losers. There’s large pockets that sit thinking they’re the moral arbiters of the nation but really all they do is enable Tories. I hate the dickheads. They lose a landslide election so that opposition has no power and then complain about Labour ‘supporting’ government (on horrible right wing causes like saving lives and paying money to workers) and then hit out when they don’t support them and perpetuate the Tory attack line. You had one of them on here the other day quoting Boris’. What’s their play here anyway? Get Starmer to lose an election and stand down, or maybe get voted out in a VONC? Fine, then what? Corbyn again? RLB? Yeah, good luck with that. The left have nothing to offer in terms of leading the party and winning an election. So what’s the end game? Burn it down until the embers smoke on the ground? I’m serious, if anybody from the left can give me a comprehensive plan on how to win back power and 1) do it from the left 2) name the left-wing leader that could sell it and win back power on a left wing agenda, then I’ll join the cause. I’m more than happy for Starmer to get fucked off, but don’t do so without having a better option, otherwise it’s ‘Hodgson’s choice’ bullshit. Put up or shut up. 

 

I actively want them purged now, the anti-intelligence, anti-winning, my way or the highway, omni-losing, tribalist, Mourinho-sounding, patreon-begging, Trump-supporter level of delusion dickheads. I’d sooner not have my political beliefs represented at all than have them represented by such a bunch of shit-sniffing, coal-mine missing, backwards-thinking, still Thatcher-fighting, stuck in the past, neck-bearded, cagoule-wearing, point-missing sycophants. 
 

Name a policy? Fuck off. You don’t lay out policy - outside of his ten pledges (fact: all lies) - during a pandemic, during an economic crisis, just after an election. Policies aren’t the opposite of abstentions. What the fuck is she dribbling on about? Does she need a tissue? 
 

To quote one guy on twitter: ‘fuck - and I can’t emphasise this strongly enough - off’.  


Gal-dem is a progressive female empowered publication that has a lot of views on race, gender, politics from people who normally wouldn’t have their voices heard. They do some good work, normally, but, for all their high minded ideals and calls for equality they have a blind spot to equality in renumeration when it comes to paying their contributors fairly....

 

One might call them hypocritical, if one we’re so inclined.

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9 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:


Activism!

 

Solidarity, comrade.

 

Do you know where the Keith stuff comes from? 
 

A made up story that he changed his name from ‘Keith’ to ‘Kier’ to impress a girl and they went with it, pathetic fuckers.

Really? Wow. Wait until they find out that the real Keir wasn’t actually called Keir. 

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