Hull City 2 Liverpool 0 (Feb 4 2017)

[Paco]

In fairness, they finished on 86 points and would have won the league 90% of the time with that tally. They just ran into Ferguson's last great side of Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, Berbatov etc

They won nothing

[Russ Atmosphere]

..but they were winners.

 

What do we expect our lot to win these days? The cups that they're rested for, or the league without a serious squad?

[Tony Moanero]

..but they were winners.

 

What do we expect our lot to win these days? The cups that they're rested for, or the league without a serious squad?

Boss avatar, Russ.

 

Repped.

[Tony Moanero]

Shit, repped Paco by mistake. I could never rep someone who hates Ian Rush.

[Evelyn Tentions]

Not got over Sevilla. I still haven't got over Rodgers visit to Stoke. Lots of culprits still here.

[skend04]

The owners aren't arsed, the committee aren't arsed, the manager wasn't arsed in the January window and the players aren't arsed now that they've got their magical 40 points. It's time for the fans not to be arsed too. There's plenty in the big wide world to concern ourselves with when the passion you put into your club isn't reciprocated.

[William_Ulsterman]

our MO is always the same and reads....

 

"two thirds possession and let in at least one easily avoidable goal."

 

its depressing and on top of that we couldn't buy a goal right now.

[s(k)aturation]

Dave that should be printed and handed out to every player and member of staff at the club. Its absolutely spot on. They are nice lads, but who wants that? Where are the snide fukers that want/need to win at any cost every time, the pantomime villain all the other fans hate. Other fans don't hate any of our players, that's a very bad sign in my book. They are good 5 a side players as Souness might say ( with contempt ) but time and time again when the pressure is on they wilt. One bad result and usually means its a 6 week plus downward spiral. The thing is its not just this group of players as its been happening since before a lot of them joined. Why that is I don't know..... but its a fact that's hard to deny.

 

 

Yep.

Playing Liverpool is the nice day out against the former giants of English soccer.

It's a pleasant walk down memory lane, a history lesson.

It's like meeting Hirohito after World War II. No longer a God, just a pleasant bloke in a suit, who would even tip his hat to you.

[El Rojo]

That team won nothing either.

 

Yep, sad but true. Wasn't even that close in the end.

 

2013/14 was our best chance by a distance due to the bad form of others, and for a while it felt like this season was opening up similarly.

[Paco]

54 - Jürgen Klopp has an identical record to Brendan Rodgers in his opening 54 Premier League games as Liverpool boss (W26 D16 L12). Mirror.

[Paco]

Shit, repped Paco by mistake. I could never rep someone who hates Ian Rush.

Cheers scudger

[Hades]

54 - Jürgen Klopp has an identical record to Brendan Rodgers in his opening 54 Premier League games as Liverpool boss (W26 D16 L12). Mirror.

 

Suarez.

[Anubis]

And Gerrard.

[Paco]

Like to see the goals for and against.

[El Rojo]

54 - Jürgen Klopp has an identical record to Brendan Rodgers in his opening 54 Premier League games as Liverpool boss (W26 D16 L12). Mirror.

 

When Jurgen looks in the mirror he sees an absolutely beautiful human with wonderful character staring back at him, a man who's just lacking that wee bit of nothing.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I think tactics are a problem.

[aws]

In fairness, they finished on 86 points and would have won the league 90% of the time with that tally. They just ran into Ferguson's last great side of Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, Berbatov etc

You left Howard Webb out of that side.

[The Golden Eel]

That team won nothing either.

The team might not have won anything as a team but there's a much better pedigree in it and plenty of the players won stuff before and after that game, were important players for national teams, competed at the business end of the Champions League, etc.  These ones have barely won a thing and for the vast majority of them, this current poor version of Liverpool is probably their ceiling. 

[Shitty Arse]

Fucking painful reading that.

[Paco]

The team might not have won anything as a team but there's a much better pedigree in it and plenty of the players won stuff before and after that game, were important players for national teams, competed at the business end of the Champions League, etc. These ones have barely won a thing and for the vast majority of them, this current poor version of Liverpool is probably their ceiling.

Winners of the went on to win other things with other clubs trophy.

 

I'm not interested what they done after they left here.

[The Golden Eel]

Winners of the went on to win other things with other clubs trophy.

 

I'm not interested what they done after they left here.

 

Neither am I especially but it shows that they were a completely different calibre of player to the ones we have now.  They were, in the main, high-level players before 2008, at the time and afterwards.  These have never been, aren't now and probably will never be

[Captain]

Neither am I especially but it shows that they were a completely different calibre of player to the ones we have now.  They were, in the main, high-level players before 2008, at the time and afterwards.  These have never been, aren't now and probably will never be

 

That summation is frighteningly accurate.

[s(k)aturation]

54 - Jürgen Klopp has an identical record to Brendan Rodgers in his opening 54 Premier League games as Liverpool boss (W26 D16 L12). Mirror.

 

 

Rodgers' record can go in the summer.

[3 Stacks]

I think tactics are a problem.

 

Disagree. You don't beat the smaller teams like Hull with tactics as their game-plan is always the same and that's to defend deep. There's only really one way to beat teams who defend with 10 players and that's to overwhelm them with quality. Barcelona don't batter Osasuna because Luis Enrique is tactically outwitting the opposing manager, they do it because they have Messi, Suarez, Iniesta and Neymar.

 

We're fine tactically because we do great in the games where we have equal or lesser quality and that's because our system makes it hard for the opposing teams and the players are put into positions to succeed.  The problem against the smaller sides is that we don't have enough good footballers. 

[Paco]

Disagree. You don't beat the smaller teams like Hull with tactics as their game-plan is always the same and that's to defend deep. There's only really one way to beat teams who defend with 10 players and that's to overwhelm them with quality. Barcelona don't batter Osasuna because Luis Enrique is tactically outwitting the opposing manager, they do it because they have Messi, Suarez, Iniesta and Neymar.

 

We're fine tactically because we do great in the games where we have equal or lesser quality and that's because our system makes it hard for the opposing teams and the players are put into positions to succeed. The problem against the smaller sides is that we don't have enough good footballers.

That doesn't make sense. You shouldn't really need the best footballers in the world to beat hull.