Labour Leadership Contest

[Section_31]

The Huffington Post doesn't seem to like Corbyn much.

Meddi hassan, part of the Guardian type liberal left.

[Jairzinho]

SD, your MP sounds ace.

 

Mine is a massive cunt.

[Original202]

Not sure if this has been posted. But the radio host guy hits the nail on the head when he says the reason everyone like JC is cos he gives a straight answer when all the rest dodge the question about Ed.

 

 

It's so frustrating watching things like this and seeing people squirm out of answering the question. They think we're stupid, it's really insulting. 

 

Don't they get that people would respect them more if they just answered the question they were asked? Even if someone came out and said something I disagreed with I'd still respect them for having the opinion and being prepared to express it.

 

It is one of the main reasons Corbyn is ahead of them, especially with young people. People just want a straight answer to simple questions and don't want to be treated like fools.

[King Emlyn]

in fairness if Cameron or somebody similar had "forgotten" such a meeting they would have been absolutely tortured on here.

[Bobby Hundreds]

I'd love to see politicians on a quiz show.

 

What is 2 plus 2?

 

Well it's not really about 2 plus 2 being something but more about what its worth to the individual, the value is relative person to person but I want to make sure that whatever the answer is.. that it's worth more than what it currently is under this lot. Hardworking families, make work pay, scroungers.

[Anubis]

Just voted online.

 

Leader - Corbyn

Deputy - 1. Watson, 2. Eagle

 

Sorry Stella....

[Anubis]

in fairness if Cameron or somebody similar had "forgotten" such a meeting they would have been absolutely tortured on here.

From 6 years ago when he's attended hundreds of events? I'm not sure that's strictly true.

 

When Hamas won the Palastinian leadership election I, and a few others on here were of the opinion that Blair and Bush should invite them to the international political table to get a dialogue going for Middle East peace.

 

When Straw shook Mugabe's hand I lambasted him - not for doing it - but for making up some pitiless excuse when he should have just said that he was Foreign Secretary, representing the British government, and like it or not Mugabe is Zimbabwe's leader and the politeness was necessary.

 

I would never criticise Major for opening back-channel talks with the IRA, or Blair for having carried them on more publically.

 

And I'm no fan of any of them.

[King Emlyn]

From 6 years ago when he's attended hundreds of events? I'm not sure that's strictly true.

When Hamas won the Palastinian leadership election I, and a few others on here were of the opinion that Blair and Bush should invite them to the international political table to get a dialogue going for Middle East peace.

When Straw shook Mugabe's hand I lambasted him - not for doing it - but for making up some pitiless excuse when he should have just said that he was Foreign Secretary, representing the British government, and like it or not Mugabe is Zimbabwe's leader and the politeness was necessary.

I would never criticise Major for opening back-channel talks with the IRA, or Blair for having carried them on more publically.

And I'm no fan of any of them.

I disagree, regardless of the whys and wherefores he denied something he then got caught out on, that's the point, classic politician bullshit, anybody else would have been slaughtered. .......would he have "forgotten" this meeting if he wasn't running for leader and by extension PM? I don't trust any of them.

[Vincent Vega]

The right wing press seem to be much quieter on Corbyn than I thought they would be, they're probably wanting to him to win and will then go thermonuclear on him the second he is appointed. I'm sure The Mail are itching to associate him with every despot from history and paint a picture of him as being more communist than Mao.

 

Am I the only one who hasn't received their voting pack yet, or are others also still waiting?

[King Emlyn]

The right wing press seem to be much quieter on Corbyn than I thought they would be, they're probably wanting to him to win and will then go thermonuclear on him the second he is appointed. I'm sure The Mail are itching to associate him with every despot from history and paint a picture of him as being more communist than Mao.

Am I the only one who hasn't received their voting pack yet, or are others also still waiting?

They're quiet because they want him elected.

[lifetime fan]

The right wing press seem to be much quieter on Corbyn than I thought they would be, they're probably wanting to him to win and will then go thermonuclear on him the second he is appointed. I'm sure The Mail are itching to associate him with every despot from history and paint a picture of him as being more communist than Mao.

 

Am I the only one who hasn't received their voting pack yet, or are others also still waiting?

Still not received mine, some fuck up with addresses and the electoral roll they're trying to sort.

[stringvest]

If there is any event that lays bare the intellectual and moral decline of this country, and especially its political and media classes, it's this election. Most depressing thing for some time.

[Hooch]

Done my vote via email just now.

 

Went Corbyn and Watson with no second choices.

[Dr Nowt]

Jeremy Hardy ‏@JeremyJHardy 2h2 hours ago

I can tell you Jeremy Corbyn has in the past met religious fanatic and mass-murdering war criminal Tony Blair, but does not share his views.

[Hooch]

If I met some geezer called ste Jones twice at a work conference 6 years ago, and then you rattled his name off to me now and asked did I remember meeting him I would probably say no too.

 

Show me the face and I would be far more likely to remember. I can't remember people's names 5 seconds after meeting them never mind 6 years.

[Lucky Pierre]

Still not received mine, some fuck up with addresses and the electoral roll they're trying to sort.

It's weird that, isn't it?

 

 

I've not read the whole thread but who would you have been voting for? It happened to someone I know too and they would have voted Corbyn. Almost like they want his voters to not have a say.

[Chairman Meow]

I've not had anything to vote as yet

[Anubis]

So which of you is Dr Porkbeast on The Guardian comments section, commenting on the story about Labour's legal advice on any challenge to the leadership election? Best read in the voice of Hugo Weaving's 'V For Vendetta' persona.

 

 

There is a malodorous stench of handwringing and venom spewing forth from the establishment at the moment over the Labour Party Leadership election. “What have we done letting Jeremy in!” They bleat. The left argues It’s because they were morons to expect a debate to be won by anyone but them (they are) or that ordinary people are too stupid to be allowed to have an opinion. “Rip out JC and let Tony Blair into your heart and all your sins will be forgiven!” They chant. At the same time the right hand is swooning at the delicious dark deliberation that they are seeing their enemies crucifying themselves on the altar of traditional Labour principles. Or perhaps…..no! It cant be!…We have made a massive tactical mistake allowing traditional Labour values to be aired in public! Both now are co-joined in one unconscionable unholy mission. Get Corbyn pronto before anyone listens to his arguments.

 

I think the Establishment and their attack dogs in New labour, the press, media and wider Oxbridge public school dominated culture have a large amount of culpability for the rise of an unknown MP who was originally arm wrestled into taking the job of articulating the traditional Labour platform before blossoming into a tour de force of dam breaking decency.

 

In my worthless opinion, they are all reaping a home grown political whirlwind born of their arrogance, hubris and ideological myopia. An avalanche of pent up frustration and disillusionment towards the torpid, tired and tenacious lies dripping from their well-fed lips.

So why is Jeremy so popular apart from his obvious skills, experience and conviction? How did the establishment call it so wrong?

 

Firstly they are culpable for believing their own spin that trade unions are all hard left demagogues bent on misleading their members and that socialist arguments are yesterday’s news dead, and buried under the squeaky clean narrative of the conservative hegemony. Of course trade unions are far more conservative than have been properganderised having many millions of tory voters within them as well as right wing Blairites running them. Up until Ed Millerband democratised the voting system they were an effective block against traditional labour candidates getting on to the Labour list. They called it wrong because their constant lobbying for this democritisation would - they argued – “abolish the draconian bully boy bloc vote and replaced it with the far more just and democratic one person one vote ballot” They are now cursing this like enfranchised turkeys on Christmas Eve regretting their campaign for a yuletide vote. Now its "a catastrophic mistake; unfair, unrepresentative and rigged".

 

Secondly they are culpable for creating and championing a bankrupt economic ideology of austerity discredited by any credible economist and designed to shift even more of the nation’s wealth and assets from the many to the few. They are culpable because of their lust for the class war; the bedroom tax, the attacks on the disabled, the sick, the old, the young, the unemployed and the workforce. The humiliation of forcing the hard working poor onto poverty wages subsidised by soon to be slashed tax credits, driving them to feed their hungry children at the foodbank. They are culpable for their siren calls of “making work pay” for the many while filing their subsidised profits in tax havens. They are culpable for stripping the dignity from labour, humiliating and sanctioning the young and unskilled into poundland work for your benefits contracts and zero hour McJobs. They are culpable for their total disinterest in putting people to work, for asking the ordinary to put the yoke of a student/training loan around their necks for decades while slashing training and investment. They are culpable for refusing to provide affordable housing with the millions of jobs that would create.

 

Finally they are culpable for pedalling a duplicitous self-serving narrative that Britain PLC can’t afford anything but cuts. Cuts to public services, jobs and pensions for the many….massive tax cuts and widening wealth gaps for themselves and their own.

 

So the next time you hear the siren call from our expensively educated/medicated Westminster bubbleheads arguing they want you to be sensible because they know best, just remember what a shower of forked tonged fraudsters they all are.

[Stu Monty]

Reading some figures on the perceptions that people had when voting in the elections is fucking depressing. Three in four people think immigration is a problem that needs to be restricted. Loads with no idea how shite the economic policy of austerity actually is. Facts are irrelevant, media spin is king.

 

Is there any serious outlet, other than the Labour party, still standing that can be used to counter the slide of our culture rightwards? I'd say the BBC but that's not going to happen.

[VladimirIlyich]

Karl Marx has warned the Labour Party is faces 'electorial oblivion' if it elects left winger Jeremy Corbyn as leader.

My Avatar has warned against Jeremy's possible 'reign of evil.'

Horns will sprout from his head soon after his election and he will become the 'God of Hellfire.'

[Chairman Meow]

My Avatar has warned against Jeremy's possible 'reign of evil.'

Horns will sprout from his head soon after his election and he will become the 'God of Hellfire.'

 

You've seen the sneak preview of Corbyns victory speech as well then?

 

[VladimirIlyich]

Did my vote online yesterday. Corbyn was my only choice for Leader but I went for Eagle 1 and Watson 2 for Deputy. I think the male/female dynamic and work slightly better than two men with identical beliefs. Nothing much between Eagle and Watson's views either from what I can see.

[lifetime fan]

It's weird that, isn't it?

 

 

I've not read the whole thread but who would you have been voting for? It happened to someone I know too and they would have voted Corbyn. Almost like they want his voters to not have a say.

I'll be voting Corbyn, I'm a former member of the Labour Party so can't see how they'd be able to stitch me that way.

[sh#t waffle]

Still not received my ballot form (not sure whether it will be via email or post).

[Bobby Hundreds]

Check your junk mail folders and shit