"Kick it Out" campaign

[dirk grout]

The law does protect against homophobic hate crimes though, and to the exact same degree as racism.

 

Educate yourself: The CPS : Homophobia

 

To be fair to Xerxes, hes right to compare the plight of gingers to homophobia and racism. Its a little known fact that gingers were enslaved for hundreds of years for nothing more than being ginger. There are also more recent examples of 'gingerism', such as gingers being refused rooms in b&bs and even being beaten to death whilst walking through parks just for having weird hair.

[dirk grout]

CPS website:

 

A hate crime is any criminal offence that is motivated by hostility or prejudice based upon the victim's:

 

disability

race

religion or belief

sexual orientation

transgender identity

 

You absolutely sure theres nothing in there about gingers?

[Rambo]

Yes, of course you can. It's quite easy to scale these things.

 

I may be misunderstanding your reply...

Are you saying that one prejudice is worse than another?

Or that I can still pick on ginger kids?

[Rambo]

You absolutely sure theres nothing in there about gingers?

 

 

As long as you don't swear at them in a public place....their fair game. Fill your boots

[silverlining]

To be fair to Xerxes, hes right to compare the plight of gingers to homophobia and racism. Its a little known fact that gingers were enslaved for hundreds of years for nothing more than being ginger. There are also more recent examples of 'gingerism', such as gingers being refused rooms in b&bs and even being beaten to death whilst walking through parks just for having weird hair.

 

Yes, and the evil ethnographics experts that claimed to have evidence proving gingers have "funny eyes", reduce in size when exposed to sunlight, and are genetically predisposed to alcoholism, irn bru and heroin

[Rambo]

To be fair to Xerxes, hes right to compare the plight of gingers to homophobia and racism. Its a little known fact that gingers were enslaved for hundreds of years for nothing more than being ginger. There are also more recent examples of 'gingerism', such as gingers being refused rooms in b&bs and even being beaten to death whilst walking through parks just for having weird hair.

 

When combined with freckles.... They're sent straight to death camps

[silverlining]

I may be misunderstanding your reply...

Are you saying that one prejudice is worse than another?

Or that I can still pick on ginger kids?

 

The Jimmy Hill 'big chin' hypothesis, which has an added white paper called "orange man" by Phil Brown

[Red Soul]

Are you all suggesting some kind of ginger cleansing program?.

I am a dark auburn specimen.Although morally against the ginger caste system,I am wondering if my colouring would warrant any grace should your plans come to fruition.Honestly I am almost what could be considered brown haired in certain lighting.Sadly the carpet is the colour of a freshly picked satsuma.I am willing to shave or dye though.

[Russ Atmosphere]

Are you all suggesting some kind of ginger cleansing program?.

I am a dark auburn specimen.Although morally against the ginger caste system,I am wondering if my colouring would warrant any grace should your plans come to fruition.Honestly I am almost what could be considered brown haired in certain lighting.Sadly the carpet is the colour of a freshly picked satsuma.I am willing to shave or dye though.

 

Shut up and keep walking.

[Red Soul]

Shut up and keep walking.

 

Ok.It..is just a shower block though isnt it??.

[silverlining]

Ok.It..is just a shower block though isnt it??.

 

Don't forget your shower gel. New one we're testing "Zesty fresh Zyklon B"

[Russ Atmosphere]

Ok.It..is just a shower block though isnt it??.

 

Yep don't forget your head and shoulders.

[Rushies tash]

Yep. Severity of crime = level of victim outrage x amount of patronising middle class guilt. Picking out any difference in anyone in a demeaning or threatening way is wrong. But some offences seem to be more wrong than others.

[Red Soul]

Don't forget your shower gel. New one we're testing "Zesty fresh Zyklon B"

 

Sounds great.Id seriously consider trading my gold tooth for such a product.

Sorry.

[Rambo]

Yep. Severity of crime = level of victim outrage x amount of patronising middle class guilt. Picking out any difference in anyone in a demeaning or threatening way is wrong. But some offences seem to be more wrong than others.

 

All hate crimes are equal, but some are more equal than others.

[Sandford]

Because one is defined by sexual expression, the other by bodily characteristic, and they are separate offences.

 

Being ginger haired will also be genetic- that does not categorise ginger abuse as racial abuse as defined by the law.

 

What a bizarre logic!!!!

[RedRazor]

Its OK for all you blondies, brunettes, baldies and greyheads but being a ginger is a matter of life and death. If you don't believe me please see the vid below. This is really happening to ginger kids all over western society. Its all a bit of fun to you guys safe with your flowing blonde (or otherwise) locks but it is time to open your eyes and stand up for your ginger brother and sisters. Your actions could save a life - please act now.

 

M.I.A, Born Free on Vimeo

 

You can help by contributing to D.O.G - Dye Out Ginger now.

[Rushies tash]

All hate crimes are equal, but some are more equal than others.

 

Exactly my point. Like the outrageous recent case of the gay couple being turned away from a b&b by the homophobic owners on 'religious' grounds. They were rightly vilified by some (not all though), but the bnp felt it necessary to defend them saying it was their personal choice and belief. I doubt even they would have been so keen to do so had they turned away a black couple just because 'they didn't like black people.'

 

I wonder what Jason Roberts' thoughts are...

[zigackly]

[razor]

England fans reported over 'racist' chanting aimed at Ferdinand brothers | Football | guardian.co.uk

 

 

England fans reported over 'racist' chanting aimed at Ferdinand brothers

 

• Anti-racism campaigners complain to Fifa over abuse

• Songs suggested that brothers be thrown on a bonfire

 

England have been reported to Fifa over alleged racist chanting by their own fans towards Rio Ferdinand and his brother Anton during last week's 8-0 victory over San Marino.

 

The Manchester United defender pulled out of the game citing fitness concerns and, according to witnesses, was the subject of a vile song suggesting he and his brother be thrown on a bonfire and burned.

 

The race campaign group Football Against Racism in Europe, headed by Piara Powar, has sent an official complaint to world football's governing body which could see the FA fined or, at worst, forced to play a game behind closed doors.

 

Fare admitted it did not have observers at the game but was supplied with information about the chants by people who were.

 

A Fare spokeswoman told the Daily Mail: "It refers to the racist abuse Rio Ferdinand received, along with his brother Anton. We don't make the judgment. We send a report to Fifa but in the end it's their decision whether they open proceedings or not. And whether they issue a fine or not."

 

The Football Association has not made any official comment but is reportedly aware of the songs. English fans also sung about the IRA and "German bombers" during the World Cup qualifier but Fare made it clear the Ferdinand chanting was the reason Fifa had been notified.

[Trumo]

Piara Powar. 'Nuff said.

[Pureblood]

This Powar chap is a megalomaniac dickhead, but part of me wants England fans and the FA strung up over this for a laugh.

[Russ Atmosphere]

How do FIFA usually become aware of racist chants, and how is it investigated? Can they review footage?

[torahboy]

Blessed Oliver Holt was on about the song that the England fans aimed at Rio and Anton Ferdinand; 'Build a bonfire.......put Rio on the top.......put Anton in the middle........' etc'. This particular song, as Pope Ollie, pointed out in his Mirror column, has been used by others, particularly Manchester fans aiming it at Scousers, and was construed as nothing other than light banter.

 

Yet Holt suggested that when sung by the England fans the song assumed an altogether more sinister context. As Rio and Anton are both black Oliver decreed the song was a 'racist' chant. He then connected it to USA southern states slave lynchings. Fucking idiotic nonsense of course.

 

But Holt could detect racism in a white man staring at Beyonce's arse, rather than accept that the guy is merely appreciating her beautiful physique while contemplating masturbation. Such imaginings are idiotic and undermine the cause of eradicating real racism from our society.

 

It must dawn on him sometime that Rio Ferdinand receives abuse not because of the colour his skin, but because of the colour of his shirt - and the fact that he is a cunt. But so is Holt.

[Lario]

So there's no reference to his colour or ethnicity, but because he's black, a song about him being thrown on a bonfire is automatically racist?

 

Fuck that. The place is gone PC mad if that's the case.