Evra accuses Suarez of racism

[Strontium]

I don't think it matters how you cut it, negrito would appear to fulfil the FA's criteria of "a reference to the ethnic origin and/or colour and/or race of Patrice Evra"

[Magic Sponge]

Watch Mongo now not get charged.

[torahboy]

Liverpool should take this directly to a proper court of law. The fucking FA seem to be favouring the word of one man over another. The FA's evidence will have to be absolutely rock solid for any court to uphold this 'charge'.

 

The fact that it has taken them this long to bring a charge suggests that this is by no means a clear cut case. But it does allow the media and other fans to declare open season on Suarez. So it is in the player's interest that the club ready themselves for further legal action in this matter.

 

The leaks over the past few days can only have been coming from the FA or Manchester United and would suggest that the FA's relationship with the Old Trafford crew does not represent any neutrality in this matter.

[Kevin D]

42 fuckin pages?

 

What on earth is there to talk about, what kind of twisted sick pleasure is it people get by seeing this thread on the first page?

 

Those with 20 posts or more in this thread:

Major Tom - 104

silverlining - 52

goatboy59 - 48

zigackly - 37

Funnneeeee - 33

ChrisM - 33

Anubis - 28

Whelan - 25

Randy Marsh - 23

moof - 21

 

It happened more than a month ago please leave it for now.

 

Have to say those are impressive numbers by Major Tom, but could he do it on a wet Wednesday night in a Rafa thread?

[gumps]

This is the FA here, they don't exactly funtion under PACE regulations.

 

Like I said the board members get a day out.

 

But any decent laywer/QC whatever will run rings around this charge.

 

Whats that QC who represented the club in the High Court last year doing?

[Dave D]

Cant make much sense of this.

 

My gut feeling says he did it. The club have been far too quiet on the subject

despite our best player getting shit loads of abuse form all angles.

 

Fine and a ban coming up Im afraid. Guilty or not.

[TheDrowningMan]

I think Chelsea's groundsman was charged too.

[zigackly]

Cant make much sense of this.

 

My gut feeling says he did it. The club have been far too quiet on the subject

despite our best player getting shit loads of abuse form all angles.

 

Fine and a ban coming up Im afraid. Guilty or not.

 

Did what?

[RobbieOR]

My gut feeling is that he will be found guilty and banned.

 

When was the last time anyone seen someone get charged and then not get banned?

[usernameunknown]

Suarez has been charged with racially abusing him. Major Tom deserves some apologies I'd say.

 

Haha! Shut up you fool, he's not even been found guilty of anything.

[Magic Sponge]

How long a ban are we talking?

[Ashberry]

Like others mentioned the 'alleged' is used which suggests they are only going on Evra's words, but also the use of 'and/or' suggests they don't actually have a clue on what they are actually charging him for.

[Tom R]

This almost makes me want to hate black people or something.

[Frankenhooker]

That member of the Chelsea ground staff that got charged was cleared, it does happen. The club has all the documentation and are still defending him to the hilt, that tells me something.

[goatboy59]

The day after John Terry captained England with little or no public/media uproar? Two days after Various Manc loving hacks were given their lines?

 

My spider senses are tingling.

[Ashberry]

This is the FA here, they don't exactly funtion under PACE regulations.

 

Like I said the board members get a day out.

 

But any decent laywer/QC whatever will run rings around this charge.

 

Whats that QC who represented the club in the High Court last year doing?

 

Lord Grabiner represented the club against the yanks. Bring Grabbo back!

[Major Tom]

I don't think he'll be banned because I think he'll be found not guilty. But I do think a hearing is the best way for Suarez to clear his name. Get it all out in the open.

[Thomo123]

The Fa have charged him over the use of the word 'negrito', the club and Suarez will prob not dispute this but argue context in regards his nationality and the way it is used in his own language. Terry is bound to get charged has he has also admitted using a 'racist' phrase, again its the context to be argued about. Ferdinands evidence will be vital in the Terry case, if he doesnt get charged ill be amazed.

[Il Fenomeno]

Haha! Shut up you fool, he's not even been found guilty of anything.

 

You are so god damn aggressive, I haven't seen a single post off you that isn't abusing another poster.

 

Do you have a tiny cock by any chance? [angrylittleman] [shortmansyndrome]

[zigackly]

If Evra is standing in a room of footballers and someone asks who he is, then would it be racist to say "the little black man over there"?

 

No, it wouldn't because that is an acceptable way of describing someone in our society. If you said "that shortarse nigger" then it would. Clearly then, social context plays a part.

 

In "latin" societies, "negrito" is an acceptable term, not only for descriptive purposes but for messing around and a bit of banter.

 

So when Dani Pacheco calls Thiago Whotsisname "negrito" on twitter, is it racist? Clearly not. They are mates.

 

This is why I think it is impossible to prove racism here.

 

At the worst, you can say that Suarez should take more care of what he says when he is addressing someone from a different culture. But how is he to know that in advance?

 

I suspect they have charged him so that they can be seen not to be sweeping it under the carpet but will come to a not guilty verdict on the grounds of cultural context.

[kalasoma]

Can we get Lord Grabiner on the case?

[gumps]

How long a ban are we talking?

 

I don't know.

 

I can't remember anyone else ever being charged/found guilty of racism.

 

Has there been?

[kalasoma]

Suarez and Evra aren't 'mates' though. They're not even colleagues and don't play on the same team. I think this is going to be more troublesome as the FA will clearly want to be seen as if they are taking action. Hopefully, that FA action will be against John Terry who is clearly a racist, as are a proportion of a certain plastic flag-waving fan base.

[Paco]

cunts are gonna make an example of him.

 

lengthy ban coming up.

[zigackly]

Suarez and Evra aren't 'mates' though. They're not even colleagues and don't play on the same team.

 

Even so, as far as he and most of the Spanish speaking world are concerned, it is an inoffensive thing to say.